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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Ambassador Sondland set his phone on speakerphone and laid it on the table at the restaurant
in Wherever, Ukraine while he was having a conversation with Trump. (And not only did all the staff at the table hear the conversation, probably the waitstaff and other people in the restaurant heard it too.)
How else do you overhear a conversation on somebody else's smartphone?
comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,645 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)what a piece of Trump humping shit he is
RockRaven
(14,958 posts)They could not have done more if they sat down and tried to plan it out.
stopdiggin
(11,295 posts)or is this late night TV stuff?
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We all sometimes hear the other side of conversations others are having, and of course a voice that sounded like his would grab attention.
Of more interest is that the call took place in the restaurant at all, but typical Sondland idiocy that's come back to bite him. Big, perjury time. This revelation came AFTER he "remembered" and was allowed to amend his testimony.
From the AP:
Steven Pifer, who served as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine from 1998 to 2000, said he always assumed his cellphone calls were being monitored and would not discuss anything sensitive unless he was on a secure phone at the embassy or his residence.
In a closed-door hearing last month, former White House Russia adviser Fiona Hill said she was concerned that Sondland posed a counterintelligence risk ... Hill cited a Sondland habit of giving out personal cellphone numbers hers and national security adviser John Boltons as well as his own and his failure to get appropriately briefed ahead of meetings.
So he was often meeting with people he had no information about, said Hill, who served as the senior director for Russia at the National Security Council. Its like basically driving along with no guardrails and no GPS on an unfamiliar territory.
She said Sondland was meeting with foreign officials that we had derogatory information on that he shouldnt have been meeting with or he was giving out his phone number or texting foreign officials. All of those communications could have been exfiltrated by the Russians very easily, she said.
Hill said officials from Europe would literally appear at the gates of the White House and call her personal phone, which was kept in a lockbox. She said shed later find messages from irate officials whod been told by Sondland that they were supposed to meet with her.
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)Ok, maybe it's massive ignorance sprinkled with globs of arrogance. They appear to believe themselves too big and important to be bothered with protocols and briefings by the little people.
Takket
(21,556 posts)Instead of, you know, people who are qualified.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the one Donnie Jr. wasn't able to set out out of Russia's DC embassy?
Of course, Trump selects only the "very best people" from among the depraved and dysfunctional actors drawn to his power. That crowd must be a smorgasbord for criminal psychologists.
canetoad
(17,150 posts)snip....
Yesterday, however, William Taylor testified that a member of his staff heard Sondland, in Kiev on a cell phone, speaking with President Trump, and that Trump asked about Ukraine opening investigations. After the call, Sondland told the staffer, David Holmes, that Trumps highest priority in Ukraine was securing an investigation of the Bidens. Today, the Associated Press reports a second staffer, Suriya Jayanti, also heard the call.
It turned out this plan had a fatal flaw. Trump speaks very, very loudly and is also irresponsibly lax about operational security. Reporters who have previously experienced Trump phone calls confirmed that his voice is distinctly audible to people standing several feet away from the recipient of his call:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/staffer-heard-trump-phone-call-taylor-ukraine-hearsay-impeachment.html
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)the line, and not Trump at all!
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I can hear both sides of the conversation just like they're in the room talking and I'm probably 7 or 8 feet away.