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just the names of these things have me 
we are seeing '1984' more and more each day it seems...(regardless of the President's lip service about military operations this morning, eh?)
chem trail planes are doin 
There are two ways of interpreting this, you choose which one is the most disturbing...
First way of looking at it is this:
This is a return to the past, one where unions, civil rights, environmentalists, anti-war, protestors, etc. were always smacked down by the powerful. This is nothing new but the tools used are more psychologically stimulating for both sides of this. It's been a repeating cycle.
The goons were suppressed in this country for a number of years due to progressives and people thought the argument was over. It will never be over. Best thing is to support the election of progressives to put this back in balance. There is a thread here about a slate of 400 currently running on a fully progressive platform within the Democratic party right now.
But they get no air time and little attention on the internet.
That balance that we had before was the work of generations, giving a framework for OWS to speak out. It's taken for granted the world had evolved far enough to prevent regression. There is no evolution of the conflicting forces within ourselves and thus the world we share with others. When you look at what we continue to do this planet and each other, we are no diferent than those who came before us thousands of years ago except in technology.
Second way of looking at this:
The only thing I see stopping us in our attempt to return to a previous, imperfect balance is the advancing post-human or trans-human era. It's been sold to us over time in media, with science fiction shows making people accept that the invasive and painful things they do in the media to the human body and mind are normal. So we won't object, as if it has always been this way. And people of people are being trained and are now employed to do these things.
People support that agenda for their survival, their livelihoods depend on it as you see above. A lack of empathy and respect for the natural world, is the source of heartbreaking events, when all is said and done, in some people's view, like me.
But in the era some are moving us toward, human empathy will be eliminated as we are driven toward something we have not been given clear guidance on the wisdom of and we love it, anyway. Machines have no allegiance to organic life forms, no matter how human they may appear. They will do the bidding of transformed humans without empathy. Like the machines, they will have no allegiance to organic life forms as they have been transmuted into cyborgs.
Sound fantastic?
We are living in an age where what many felt would safely remain in the realms of science fiction is rapidly becoming science fact. The issue to me, is who will support empathy for creation and consciousness in the ways many of us undertand that concept now.
A little while ago, I saw a video of Michio Kaku who I liked in the past. He started his career with the help of Oppenheimer, but said he grew to feel that his negative view of how to run the world was wrong. He indicated that he drew his beliefs from Buddhism and Christianity. He is credited with developing string theory and seemed very positive about a lot of things.
I watched a few years ago as he explained his theories about the different stages of planetary civilizations. At this time he says this planet is in the lowest stage of development in relation to many things. He envisioned, as many of us do, humans creating the means to travel interstellar distances as many who are fond of the space program are.
He said the coming planetary government or civilization would soon be able to control the weather, then the Sun itself and even galactic forces. And that anyone opposing planetary government was a bigot who was holding onto to the past, and a terrorist because it is necessary for survival to do this.
Many of the things which divide humanity would be discarded by force if necessary, which most have no problem with because we are sick of war and hatred and wasteful things. But consider what this entails for the diversity of life here now.
I saw a later video of his talking about the way for mankind to achieve what was needed was to have our memories uploaded to synthetic bodies to at last become immortal. He made a rallying cry as to who wanted to join in this great adventure for mankind and was met with cheers by the students in his audience.
Nancy Pelosi said the GOP are obstructing everything because they want enough money 'to live forever.' She may or may not have been referring to this idea that is percolating not only on youtube or internet websites, but some academic circles.
When I watched the last video of Kaku and saw the enthusiasm of the students at the place he was speaking, as he called for them to help make this happen, this transference to mechanical bodies, I was appalled. Because it left out a vital question to me.
It didn't answer the question but he did use the term supermen. Which is Ayn Rand's term and with her philosophy of who is a creator and who is a parasite, and why many should die, it leads to a dark conclusion in my eyes. Because who or what would control who was and wasn't put in those bodies, and what the purpose of regimenting the human race this way, was not answered. Just that it was going to be a great thing.
If the earlier fiction books were correct, there would be no democracy, no human equality possible in this way of running the planet or even our own flesh and blood, our bodies. One's existance would be predestined. Organic life would be nothing more than fuel for the rulers, or so it would appear. Not much different than the worst of the 1% (they are not all evil, but are driven to survive) right now.
It would be much more like the division of labor and privileges in Huxley's disturbing book, 'Brave New World.' For some, Orwell's '1984' was a horrific vision of a future dystopia. I think the GOP saw Orwell's book as a manual on how to drive humanity the way they want and it's worked well. But then rulers are good at it, or let's face it, they wouldn't be ruling.
Naturally, it will take a huge concentration of wealth to make this vision a reality. Anything going against the economic system that would have the resources to bring this about would be called terrorists. OWS fits that model, not in the common use of the term, but a a bigger one. It's not that hard to understand if these are the real goals of the 1%, which they think they are right about.
Can we say safely we are not moving toward an inhuman era? When there are people who think it's a great thing because they love technology? Where will the mass of humanity not chosen to be the supermen of the future end up?
I'll back away from Paranoid Plaza and Lala Land now. None of what I've said has been put in place fully, and may collapse at any time. We have as much a chance to change this route with OWS or anything.
There are times I suspect OWS is not as genuine as I hope it is, other times I think it is the greatest thing that ever happened. The Declaration of the Occupation of NYC stated the kind of world I believe we could very well have. Not going backwards in technology, but using it to save and support life on this planet.
Right now, we have billions of people on this planet doing the dirty work to bring about a system that kills or simply being driven crazy by it, if not dying. We could have billions working toward something wonderful.
I have links to all of this, but this is too long already. It reminds me of the Kahlil Gibran quote:
"What is this world that is hastening me toward I know not what, viewing me with contempt."
until they make them look like Summer Glau.
the support for the Corporate Police State around here has really mushroomed since Obama got into office. 
provide universal healthcare, feed the hungry, improve our schools, create jobs, etc. WTF man. Eisenhower was right!
*edited to say - always money for war - AND to spy on our own citizens right here in the USA evidently. ugh. this should NOT be allowed.
Soon we will be blase about the bumblebee drones hovering about our lives, and the ingress / egress requirements to our vehicles and residences.
Then will come the advertising bumbledrones . . .
