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spanone

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Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:55 AM Nov 2019

Trump ignores Pentagon advice and intervenes in military war crimes cases

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Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump ignored Pentagon advice Friday and pardoned two service members, while also restoring the rank of a third after all faced war crimes allegations.

Trump granted full pardons to Army 1st Lt. Clint Lorance and Army Major Mathew Golsteyn, and restored the rank of Navy SEAL Eddie R. Gallagher, who had been demoted.

Lorance was released from the United States Disciplinary Barracks in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, just before 10:30 p.m. local time Friday. He was wearing his Army uniform, according to CNN Producer Dan Shepherd who witnessed the reunion. His aunt, uncle, cousin and three nieces were waiting for him at a hotel following his release.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper and other senior military leaders had told the President that a presidential pardon could potentially damage the integrity of the military judicial system, the ability of military leaders to ensure good order and discipline, and the confidence of US allies and partners who host US troops.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/politics/trump-war-crimes-intervenes/index.html


Trump Betrays the Military

President Donald Trump on Friday cleared three military service members of war crimes, even after being reportedly advised against doing so by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy. Mr. Trump interceded on behalf of Army Maj. Mathew Golsteyn, who had been charged with murdering an Afghan man; Edward Gallagher, a Navy SEAL who was convicted in connection with posing for a photo with the corpse of a fighter in Iraq; and Army First Lt. Clint Lorance, who, after nine fellow unit members testified against him, had been convicted of murdering two civilians in Afghanistan.

Mr. Trump may believe that intervening pays respect to those who have served in uniform, that it shows he’s “pro-military.” But if this is his view, he’s wrong. In reality, Mr. Trump’s meddling undermines the military’s institutional values, risks endangering American service members, and disrespects the honorable service of the overwhelming majority of veterans.

The military strives to ensure that its members adhere to the laws of war and respect human rights. Service members are trained, for example, to avoid civilian casualties by understanding rules of engagement and following the proper steps for escalation of force. They also learn the appropriate ways to treat detainees, and interrogators are trained to employ only the approved, legal methods.

During my two deployments to Afghanistan, my intelligence work helped lead to the capture of insurgent leaders. Sharing responsibility for their capture and as a recipient of the intelligence produced by their interrogations, I had a sense of moral reassurance in the understanding that my colleagues handled and interrogated the detainees humanely — just as they had been trained.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/opinion/trump-war-crimes-pardons-gallagher.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
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Trump ignores Pentagon advice and intervenes in military war crimes cases (Original Post) spanone Nov 2019 OP
If they did it they have to live with being murderers. pwb Nov 2019 #1
Only reason he did this was as the newest distraction. n/t 5X Nov 2019 #2
Just like with Arpaio... atreides1 Nov 2019 #3
Yes, to me also--and I hope to all (but I dream). riversedge Nov 2019 #4
Gee, if only there was something our military could do about the tyrant in the WH. Until in2herbs Nov 2019 #5
Are you calling for a coup? sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #8
He was sending a message to someone... kentuck Nov 2019 #6
+1 crickets Nov 2019 #9
Could be backtoblue Nov 2019 #10
Wish they would advise him not to resign. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #7

in2herbs

(2,944 posts)
5. Gee, if only there was something our military could do about the tyrant in the WH. Until
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:39 AM
Nov 2019

they have the courage to stand up to Trump their institutional values will be ignored.

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
10. Could be
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019

Flynn rescinded some of his testimony (August?) claiming he was tricked into his plea deal or some crap like that.

Giuliani? Sondland? There are an incredible list of people ot could be.

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