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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter yesterday, Republicans will need to re-calibrate.
Their Counsel, Steve Castor, was criticized by some on the right as being on the "other" side. Also, he was caught on camera, leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed, as if resigned to the futility of his argument.
Their strategy was to disrupt with procedural motions and "points of order" but they were quickly squelched by Chairman Schiff, who recognized their scheme from the beginning. They were going to let Ms Stefanik lead the charge and then let Gym Jordan clean up with his rapid-fire questioning. They were persistent. They tried about six times each to disrupt the hearing but were scolded and silenced by Mr Schiff in very short order. He showed that he was in total control of the hearing.
What will they do different going forward? Since their initial strategy failed so miserably, what can they do to interrupt and disrupt with the future witnesses? Mr Trump was probably very disappointed in their efforts yesterday?
dalton99a
(81,065 posts)A very leaky boat
underpants
(182,273 posts)Nunes Castor and Gym Jordan looking absolutely spent, defeated, done. I looked several pages deep in GD but I cant find it.
Hugin
(32,778 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,728 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)yardwork
(61,415 posts)Cone to think of it, that's what they are.
hurple
(1,304 posts)They look defeated
Thank you so much
Hugin
(32,778 posts)underpants
(182,273 posts)Captain Zero
(6,714 posts)3 stooges anyway
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)He maintained his composure and kept his focus. A true professional.
colorado_ufo
(5,717 posts)and American history will speak kindly of him.
groundloop
(11,487 posts)ananda
(28,782 posts)I wish he would be our next president!
But Pelosi will do fine, or whoever is elected
in 2020!
Hugin
(32,778 posts)Such is the price of being deaf to compromise and evolutionarily illiterate.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)he should issue a very stern warning that the next violation of the committee rules would lead to that member being forcibly removed OR not given any more "air time" to speak
empedocles
(15,751 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,880 posts)Schiff was great, but I do wish he had taken a minute to read the pertinent rules to Jordan and Stefanik, and also remind them that the rules were crafted by Republicans under Boehner. That would have quickly told viewers that Jordan and Stefanik were grandstanding.
colorado_ufo
(5,717 posts)at least the rule that says time can only be yielded to the ranking member or the counsel?
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)get away with it. I believe it's called grandstanding.
BumRushDaShow
(127,298 posts)And as a note - these rules designed specifically for this Impeachment Inquiry were marked up in the House Rules Committee late last month and reported out to the full House as H. Rept. 116-266 - https://www.congress.gov/congressional-report/116th-congress/house-report/266
The resolution was debated and was successfully passed in the House as H.Res. 660 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/660
https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20191028/BILLS-116-HRes660.pdf (PDF)
C_U_L8R
(44,891 posts)hurple
(1,304 posts)That's why they don't want it getting out to the public
brewens
(13,396 posts)Taylor about meeting with him. If he ever rated being called that, that ship sailed a long time ago! Americas Mayor my ass!
groundloop
(11,487 posts)He was caught up in a marital scandal right before 9-11, he managed to make good use of the disaster to his advantage.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,033 posts)lastlib
(22,981 posts)...and fight extradition. Starting with Gym-Rat Jacketoff.
bucolic_frolic
(42,666 posts)if any of them can get up off the floor
Enoki33
(1,584 posts)in particular Nunes and Jordan, were not only frivolous and disrespectful peddling of Russian propaganda, they were damning confirmation of the fact that Russia has virtually taken over the GOP. That is now established fact. Putin and his oligarchs are getting what they paid for.
gab13by13
(20,864 posts)won't Jerry Nadler take over for Schiff? I hope he does better than the last time Republicans disrupted his hearing.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,048 posts)Does everything shift to another committee? If so, they'll need to bring in the attorney to do the questioning...Lewandowski ate their damn lunch last time he chaired a hearing.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)They will be writing up the Articles of Impeachment.
Auggie
(31,060 posts)BootinUp
(46,924 posts)JTOL
(45 posts)Reminds me of the Public Defender in the movie "My Cousin Vinny"
monmouth4
(9,664 posts)of Law.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)They're going to find themselves being forced to recalibrate numerous times next week. When Lt Colonel Vindman & Gordon Sondland testify, their "second hand, third hand, fourth hand" arguments will be down the proverbial crapper.
Sondland is a wild card but I think his revised testimony is a pretty strong indicator that he sees the writing on the wall. He has to see that that he is already being thrown under the bus by Trump & his minions - in other words, THE ENTIRE GOP.
Couple that with the outcome of Roger Stone's trial and I think he's going to roll all over Trump, Giuliani, Mulvaney, and everyone else involved, to save his skin. (And his hotels, of course.) And it can't escape notice that Manafort is still sitting in prison, nary a pardon in sight.
First one to roll over always gets the best deal. And he doesn't look like a guy who'd fare well in prison... even if it is only Club Fed.