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In "The Plot to Betray America" Nance writes that Professor Laurence Tribe "assumes conspiring with
foreign adversaries and domestic accomplices to defraud the American people should constitute a
clear case for treason".
Karadeniz
(22,473 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,919 posts)would say that if the "original founders" had a problem with any "cyber" stuff they would have put it in the Constitution!
Duppers
(28,117 posts)My hubs, a former federal employee, has been saying this for years. He truly thinks the U.S. has better computer expertise and cybersecurity than Russia and that we can and should take down their whole cyber infrastructure! We need to bring Russia/Putin's gov't. to its knees before they do this to us, because they have already shown their malicious intent in so many ways.
And we absolutely must stay on our toes with China who are actually more of a potential threat. But they are into more industrial espionage. (And they target government labs as well.)
Russia doesn't have have China's expertise, thankgoodness.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)of the United States. He is making us less safe every day. He needs to be impeached and investigated for treason.
Joinfortmill
(14,395 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)That's the message that everyone needs to hear.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)And the Republicans in Congress who are defending him know that and they don't care either. And if Russian election interference is what it takes to keep them in power they are fine with it.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Thanks. Not that our Dem lawmakers will pursue this but, all the same, this thread needs more attention.
dchill
(38,444 posts)malaise
(268,711 posts)History will absolve us
dchill
(38,444 posts)Conscious people know it.
malaise
(268,711 posts)right
CloudWatcher
(1,845 posts)Every action Trump has taken has been to Russia's advantage.
It occurred to me why the EU ambassador is in the Ukraine bribery scandal ... it's because his job was to be sure Ukraine did not join the EU (only 1/2 kidding). How better to keep it out of the EU than to make sure it's as corrupt as possible?
Trump -- working every day to make the world safe for corruption and dictators.
AZ8theist
(5,409 posts)In other news, water is wet. Film at 11...
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)He certainly fits the dictionary definition of treason if not the criminal definition.
czarjak
(11,254 posts)Just a good old boy!
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Treasonous acts may be criminal, but criminal acts are almost never treason. As Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution specifies, Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. The Founders went out of their way to define treason narrowly because they knew how it had been repeatedly abused in the past.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651
Ford_Prefect
(7,872 posts)IMO it is clear and present in his actions, prevarications and policies. (italics by me)
U.S. Code § 2381.Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381#
triron
(21,984 posts)cyberwar?