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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe White House Medical Unit . . .
. . . is actually pretty awesome.
They have emergency medical and trauma capabilities on site, including examination rooms, a basic pharmacy, a crash cart. They have about 24 total staff, including doctors, nurses, PAs and medics. They have a *full* pharmacy and surgical suite on Air Force One, and they make sure that an operating room is no more than a few minutes away from wherever POTUS is, or they set one up themselves for as long as he's there.
In short, pretty much anything POTUS needs, at least for urgent care, is available in-house.
So why did the motherfucker go to Walter Reed?
A partial physical? Bullshit. Even those without medical knowledge know that physicals don't work that way.
Routine tests? Maybe, but reports are that the visit wasn't on the schedule as of the previous evening, and that he was complaining of chest discomfort at Walter Reed.
One scenario, probably the best one (from the MF's perspective), is that he was having some lousy indigestion, and wasn't content with the WHMU's diagnosis (because he knows more than any so-called "doctor," right?), so he insisted on Walter Reed for advanced tests or whatever. They humored him, and they made up the partial physical bullshit so that he wouldn't look weak. I can't rule this out, but Stephanie Graham's admonition that speculation beyond the official story is "dangerous for the country" sets off my bullshit detector. Don't question my health OR ELSE! is not the position of a healthy MF, or a healthy MF's spokesthing.
Another, more hopeful scenario, is that he's having heart problems, and the tests coming back today will confirm that.
A third, even more hopeful scenario, is that it's part of a ruse to give himself a medical excuse to resign.
Dare we dream?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Chichiri
(4,667 posts)They probably have the technology to satisfy HIPAA. :-p
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)jmbar2
(4,861 posts)erronis
(15,181 posts)Every intelligence agency around the world as well as independent stingray operators are in the loop...
My guess is syphilis or some other worm growing inside his enormous body.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Junk food and diet coke = he has a fart caught crosswise.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)possibly from a polonium sammich from Apparat-Chik-Fil-A. Quite common among associates of Vladdy Daddy.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)I am stealing several.
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erronis
(15,181 posts)But if it's going to be that sammich, can we please watch the agonizing demise?
brewens
(13,538 posts)House.
dchill
(38,442 posts)Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)This isnt like you or I needing to go in, the White House has equipment and staff to handle most anything outside an emergency. Maybe he needed and MRI.
And also, they knew the optics would be bad for this, it had to have been unavoidable.
safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)his head examined. Has to be it.
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)That would make sense!
cureautismnow
(1,676 posts)But they wouldn't find anything.
nature-lover
(1,466 posts)The powerful R's might have come to him and said that they can no longer cover him and he needs to make an exit while Pence can pardon him. He can still leave with his ego intact and garner sympathy from his followers.
malaise
(268,693 posts)Let's see if it's still on
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)make a "show of it" and fake some kind of health issue during the event or timed around it somehow. My BS meter is very active on this one.
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MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He knows what's coming.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)It's obvious that this is all a big ruse, for whatever reason. The third scenario is becoming more and more plausible.
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)in the near future. I'm not giving up hope!
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)LittleGirl
(8,279 posts)Die everyday but that MF lives in! Life is so cruel!
Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)he's not played golf in the last few weeks? This is something that's always on his public schedule, and for some reason, he hasn't managed to hit the links lately.
Look, aside from money, fame, and sex, is there anything this guy loves more than golf? Certainly way more than any member of his own family. I'm finding this rather curious.
Full disclosure - I'm a very active 55-year-old who has been a golfer for 40 years, and I had to put my own play on the shelf around June of this year as the result of a specific injury, tearing in one of the tendons of my right forearm, so I've undergone treatment and am in the midst of a multi-month rehab process. If anything like this was the reason for his absence, I can't imagine why he or anyone around him would want to be less than 100% transparent.
This episode makes me wonder if the symptoms that led him to Walter Reed yesterday have been scaring him sufficiently to the point where he was afraid to even go out onto the course.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)He might golf again any day now if the weather's nice.
unc70
(6,109 posts)It has rained a lot, then a spell of low temperatures around 20 and highs under 40. It is warming up a little now, but not enough to allow courses to reopen. Still around freezing overnight. I expect Trump will head to Florida early for Thanksgiving.
getagrip_already
(14,618 posts)Anf has on multiple occasions. The weather is pretty nice kn florida.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)mahina
(17,616 posts)Small mercies.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)can lead to chest pains. I suspect he started having issues after the WS game in DC... that is IF he's having any problems at all. He can't handle the fact that not only was he not praised at the game, everyone else KNOWS it and is lauding it. He can't handle humiliation and that was big! And his vindictive nature won't let him stop ruminating over it which leads to long term adrenaline release. His abuse of Addreall and whatever else is contributing to the heightened BP so I cold see him starting to have problems at this point. Whatever happens, I want the whole cabal exposed and ousted.
My what seriously interesting times.
mnhtnbb
(31,373 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,065 posts)DUer speculated that his bad health is finally catching up with him, and perhaps this is a prelude to him declaring that he's resigning due to health reasons.
tinrobot
(10,885 posts)A lot of people here noticed he seemed very low energy and subdued.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Hitting the ball is a heart attack risk?
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)Complete bed rest and silence!
PLEASE
ancianita
(35,932 posts)visit during his term.
grannycarol
(1 post)I suffer from panic attacks, and they can be frightening- almost like a heart attack if you don't know what it is. And I'm thinking trump is way to cool to be diagnosed at the White House for anxiety and demanded a second opinion.
RGinNJ
(1,019 posts)Sgent
(5,857 posts)but the WH medical corp has the medications needed to stop a panic attack cold and can do an EKG -- assuming when they gave him a bolus of Xanax he settled down, and his EKG was good, they could also do serial tropins (heart attack lab).
The only thing I can think is they found something concerning and either wanted a cath lab -- or his physician ordered a stress test for his physical and they went to WR to perform it -- so he maybe telling the partial truth.
Mazeltov Cocktail
(569 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Thumbs overworked, aching.
MaryMagdaline
(6,851 posts)3sam3
(19 posts)thumb spurs?
That should be the headline in all the major papers...
Pres hospitalized for thumb spurs!
RainCaster
(10,832 posts)It's as tiny and rotten as his soul.
GarySeven
(940 posts)Motherfucker ain't go no heart.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)An MRI for a brain scan... CAT for chest scans.
They wouldn't be able to do that in the White House. And they're not the sort of procedure that would make it hard for him to walk or function afterwards (as if he'd had anesthesia).
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)And I've seen a few.
LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)It had to have been a test that could not be performed in house.
Johnny2X2X
(18,969 posts)Yeah, MRI or CT, but this was an emergency IMO, otherwise there is zero chance they would have done this mid day knowing the political risk.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Just an EKG and one blood test (from a series of three) will give them enough info to know if there's trouble, initially.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)What about a stroke?
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)moondust
(19,958 posts)It could be something as simple as a vain attempt to move the headlines away from all the focus on his criminal behavior, maybe turning down the heat and even eliciting some sympathy in the process. Last week was very bad for him and this week could be worse.
yardwork
(61,538 posts)One angle we shouldn't forget is that Putin kills people, often with poison. Trump never forgets that.
For a lot of reasons, Trump is a very frightened man.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Putin needs to get Pence in there so the con may have been warned about his inefficiency to the Russian agenda and that he needs to "get out or else".
Of course that the other reason may be, as a DUer pointed out yesterday, to get pity from the public...Oh, poor con, he is so stressed about the impeachment, blah, blah, blah.
Either way, I want him gone, and prosecuted in NY.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Lab work would be out of the question. How is that a "checkup?"
The only conclusion I cam draw is that the WH is lying about it all.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)jbeing
(171 posts)Isn't this the SOP of mafia guys who are going to trial? They run large money-making and murderous organizations. But when they are in a courtroom, they are in wheelchairs or on crutches. They look too feeble or unable to run a large operation, based on convenient heart and arthritic alibis. Doesn't always work, but it's worth a try for sympathy. Maybe even a reduced sentence.
My opinion (for what it's worth):
1. He's looking for a way out before he's impeached or removed from office (if Putin agrees - but that may not be what the commissar wants)
or
2. He's worked out a plan to be pardoned by Pence (But his ego may want Pence to go down, as well)
or
3. (This is a stretch) He may have to go to a place where they have "The Best" doctors and no extradition treaty with the U. S.
Just thinking out loud.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)excision of tissue in an undisclosed location
JenniferJuniper
(4,507 posts)would anyone even notice?
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)wiley
(2,921 posts)about chest pains. He's trying for the sympathy angle from his base.
Traildogbob
(8,674 posts)And Everytime the stats of an athlete showed a 230 lb 6'2" player, I tried to imagine him in atrump suit and tie and that it actually fit. Maybe it only looks like shit on tRump, the 230 lb stud man, is only because of his slumped over posture and lumbering pace. He claims to be the healthiest president in history. As if we never saw PRESIDENT Obama. Please, everyone, keep pissing him off, laughing out loud, and blowing screeching whistles at the 230 lb stud boy. We can do this.🎂🍩🍕🍔🍔🎂🎂🍰❤️💥💔.....😆
colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)However, no one puts on fat that fast. His puffy face and swollen abdomen, to my armchair diagnosis, looks a bit like congestive heart failure of a mild degree. It looks like he is suffering from fluid retention. This would all be aggravated by stress.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)MartyTheGreek
(564 posts)our Ninja prayer group is working pretty fucking good these days! But more likely it's Consciousness of guilt now manifesting physical symptoms.
Hey Melinia, if you're listening, file for divorce now before all the claims get in. Please do save Barron. He's so innocent. Princess Ivanka and Kush are fucked too so save your ass first.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)do something nice for your country for a change - drop fucking DEAD!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I think hell leave for medical reasons. Because even if it goes against the grain for him to be seen as weak, it goes even more against the grain to be impeached or to lose an election. He is sitting squarely on the horns of a dilemma.
The plus side, for him, is that he loves to wallow in self pity, and what better excuse than to have been driven to ill health by his enemies. Maybe hell even claim the Deep State poisoned his hamberders.
torius
(1,652 posts)Lets see if he avoids flying for a while.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)and I think an EKG would be readily available at WH, so it's more than that.
Pile on the hamberders, fries, tacos with cheese, and two scoops
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Even "The New Republic" has raised this...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/newrepublic.com/amp/article/140702/medical-theory-donald-trumps-bizarre-behavior
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)I'm not on Twitter, so help me out here.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)mopinko
(69,990 posts)you are prolly right. someone else suggested he might have needed an angiogram. heart is likely.
i sure hope someone gets an excuse to look in that noggin. instant diminished capacity, and def a 25a, more so than heart issues. brains like his dont get better.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)He is very fond of stagecraft to divert from trouble.
So they cook up an unannounced trip to hospital in order to seize the national conversation for now.
Notice that he was able to walk to the limo himself.
If he really were having cardiac symptoms, he would have initially been evaluated at the WH medical unit. They would not have let him walk to the car if he showed actual signs of trouble.
napi21
(45,806 posts)My job was relocated to another State and I commuted between SC & Tx. for almost 3 months while looking for a house. I guess all that travel, new job, buying a house, working with all new people, and having a house closing was a bit more than my brain wanted to handle. One day at work, I got tingling down my one arm, faster heart beat, and tightness in my chest. I asked on of our Sectrtrys to take me to the ER. Make a long story short, they determined it to be a "panic attack", gave me a script to calm down my nerves, and I've been fine ever since.
With all the bad things hitting DT in the last few weeks, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what his visit to the ER was for. That would also explain why he wasn't kept for observation.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)Try THAT in some little White House dispensary.
MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)220; 221, whatever it takes.
Mendocino
(7,482 posts)are bigger than his weight. If you draw his blood, it comes out sluggish yellow blobs.