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skip fox

(19,356 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:37 AM Nov 2019

By his lies you shall know him. Trump's "routine" annual physical.

Since the White House and Trump claim his unscheduled trip to Walter Reed was "routine," we can be certain it wasn't.

Trump even when out of his way to stress that it wasn't unusual exactly the same way he normally obfuscates:trying to add the lie to a sentence or series of phrases so that it seems normal but it never works.


But what was it? One site (relating the contention of a Hill contributor) claims it was chest discomfort.

Is this the best we know? What about overuse of Sudafed? Fat-ass digestive problems? the garbage dump that is is soul?

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By his lies you shall know him. Trump's "routine" annual physical. (Original Post) skip fox Nov 2019 OP
It's probably his heart trying to beat through all of that KFC. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #1
Oh shit! malaise Nov 2019 #3
My other thought was maybe gas pains from all the bullshit in him!!! RKP5637 Nov 2019 #9
Is he still guzzling xxqqqzme Nov 2019 #20
Probably, and topping that off with a case of energy drinks!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #21
Is "energy drink" what they call Adderall now? DBoon Nov 2019 #48
For him, several boxes at least! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #50
I was going to add "...and all the garbage he eats" calimary Nov 2019 #55
Ahhh, good point, he likely has no heart!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #56
OH! Oh, I just visualized that!! Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #57
Must sound like squish squash squish squash squish squash squish ... RKP5637 Nov 2019 #59
It would sound absolutely disgusting (EW!) LOL- Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #61
Wow!!! Scary stuff!!! RKP5637 Nov 2019 #63
I'm thinking mild stroke safeinOhio Nov 2019 #2
I'm thinking long term congestive heart failure... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #4
Aggravated by an acute case of impeachment, no doubt BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #8
Read this morning True Blue American Nov 2019 #19
At least they finally admitted he is obese, not just borderline overweight. erronis Nov 2019 #29
It STARTED OUT the size of a rabbit turd. dchill Nov 2019 #43
Not to mention the bouts of insomnia -the tweeting at all hours of the night onetexan Nov 2019 #5
Is he on the golf course this morning? Historic NY Nov 2019 #6
He'll have to fake going out golfing if he's not able to. If the golfing stops, that will be a brewens Nov 2019 #12
It's in the 30s in most of the dc area--has been 20 degrees spooky3 Nov 2019 #13
This White House's lying about *everything* is downright Stalin-esque. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #7
And gets a hole-in-one every time (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #10
The WH has been peddling misinformation about Trump's health since he took office dlk Nov 2019 #11
Panic attack. alittlelark Nov 2019 #14
This is my guess - serious, full-on, pnwest Nov 2019 #53
I guess Dr. Feelgood wasn't available this time around packman Nov 2019 #15
Well, "routine" or not, NYT says it was the 9th visit of his term. ancianita Nov 2019 #16
Just so the flummoxed trio on Fox and Friends Mr. Ected Nov 2019 #17
Yup. I think there were dems on Pontius Pilate's staff also. erronis Nov 2019 #32
Obviously ChazInAz Nov 2019 #38
He has needed the Adderall even more lately, perhaps dewsgirl Nov 2019 #18
I though all presidents had a private WH Dr. Whom I believe resides at the WH. Meadowoak Nov 2019 #45
I'm sure. I was kidding. It sounds like they have a pretty dewsgirl Nov 2019 #47
Some other points to ponder.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #22
good analysis! skip fox Nov 2019 #39
I think it was last Friday but when I saw Trump speaking he did not look well at all. Botany Nov 2019 #23
This from Kelly O'Donnell Raftergirl Nov 2019 #24
What if they put an IV in his hand and he can't tweet to describe how stupid he is? n/t. NNadir Nov 2019 #25
I just read that True Blue American Nov 2019 #27
He has never been an intelligent person, but I do think that he possibly is in... NNadir Nov 2019 #33
This is exactly what I've been thinking Iwasthere Nov 2019 #35
Oh I'm sure we'll hear that he's again, the healthy so-called president ever!! We've all heard ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #26
Bloat can be True Blue American Nov 2019 #30
he is loosing it scarytomcat Nov 2019 #28
Lead up to not running due to True Blue American Nov 2019 #31
I agree with your advice thinkingagain Nov 2019 #54
"Soul"? I thought you were going to say "digestive tract." Iggo Nov 2019 #34
Ya know he believes that the heart... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2019 #36
I really don't care, do you? Traildogbob Nov 2019 #37
Ok guess I shoulda used the sarcasm smiley... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2019 #40
No no Traildogbob Nov 2019 #42
Not a bit! True Blue American Nov 2019 #51
Traitor Tot also said you're given a finite amou energy to use in this lifetime, so by that logic... OMGWTF Nov 2019 #44
And that waving his arms around at rallies is exercise. NCLefty Nov 2019 #65
"My health has taken an unexpected turn for the worse, therefore I must resign..." NurseJackie Nov 2019 #41
Do we have enuff time to head out to 'Parties R Us'? sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #49
I keep champagne cold in a spare fridge Danascot Nov 2019 #58
At the grocery store customer service desk there's bubbly under lock and key. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #60
I'll settle for a very cold bottle of Cava. cheap and quite good yellowdogintexas Nov 2019 #69
Thanx for the FYI! I am also fond of fizzy moscato. 🍾 sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #70
There have been several times he has slurred his speech to the Politicub Nov 2019 #46
TIAs certainly make sense... I just thought he was feeling the effects of Adderall, or... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #52
I forgot about the Sudafed stash. Politicub Nov 2019 #67
During that outdoor press thingy on his way to Louisiana he had a twitch at the corner Vinca Nov 2019 #62
TIA, carotid artery blockage, CHF are all possibilities yellowdogintexas Nov 2019 #68
His fingers looked gnarly puffy in a pic someone posted him ready to slurp down a taco bowl or some sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #71
Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility Martin Eden Nov 2019 #64
The tweet earlier today that was attributed to him was likely written by staff. Blue_true Nov 2019 #66

calimary

(81,220 posts)
55. I was going to add "...and all the garbage he eats"
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:09 PM
Nov 2019

after the OP.

Hmmm... that assumes he even has a heart. Or, as my mom used to say, “heart like a BB.”

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
61. It would sound absolutely disgusting (EW!) LOL-
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 06:30 PM
Nov 2019

I wonder if Donald has heard of the "Sandwich So Delicious it Causes Ordinary People to Lose Their Minds." He might enjoy replacing the 2 Big Macs & 2 Fish Fillets lunch with 4 of these. He can also lord it over everyone, that HE's eating the coveted Popeyes chicken sandwich every day.



I believe that if one were to wring the grease out of this sandwich, there'd be very little left of it.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
4. I'm thinking long term congestive heart failure...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:42 AM
Nov 2019

been suspecting that for a while. He's obviously not well.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
19. Read this morning
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:25 PM
Nov 2019

That Trump had chest pains and that he has heart disease.

That could be congestive heart failure. He is bloated. That much is clear.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
29. At least they finally admitted he is obese, not just borderline overweight.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

Cramming 300 pounds into a 250 pound suit using corsets is not the same as slimming down.

It's also gotta be hard on a poor man's heart. Squeezes it till it is the size of a rabbit turd.

dchill

(38,471 posts)
43. It STARTED OUT the size of a rabbit turd.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:21 PM
Nov 2019

It's now squeezed down to the size of a demon dancing on the head of a pin.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
5. Not to mention the bouts of insomnia -the tweeting at all hours of the night
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:43 AM
Nov 2019

Im sure those arteries must be clogged up as heck. Bernie isnt the only one with the threat of keeling over any minute apparently.

brewens

(13,574 posts)
12. He'll have to fake going out golfing if he's not able to. If the golfing stops, that will be a
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:03 PM
Nov 2019

flat assed, stone cold, lead pipe cinch that he's in trouble health wise.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
7. This White House's lying about *everything* is downright Stalin-esque.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 11:45 AM
Nov 2019

Of course it was just part of a normal annual physical because there's absolutely nothing wrong with Dear Leader, who weighs 175 lbs. and is 6'5" and has the physique of a linebacker, huge hands, an enormous dick, and perfect hair with no bald spots whatsoever.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
11. The WH has been peddling misinformation about Trump's health since he took office
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:01 PM
Nov 2019

Both his mental and physical health appear to be compromised.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
53. This is my guess - serious, full-on,
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:42 PM
Nov 2019

heart-pounding panic attack. Explains the “chest discomfort” and then being released in just hours.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
15. I guess Dr. Feelgood wasn't available this time around
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019



Remember him? Said Trump was the fittest person on earth and in perfect health. Guy also got a break on some Trump-related real estate.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
17. Just so the flummoxed trio on Fox and Friends
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:16 PM
Nov 2019

Can blame the Dems when THE BIG ONE hits Trump after he's been impeached.

"Who could have seen this coming? He was the paragon of good health. The Dems killed him, just like they killed Marc Rich and Vince Foster."

Meadowoak

(5,545 posts)
45. I though all presidents had a private WH Dr. Whom I believe resides at the WH.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:32 PM
Nov 2019

This had to be something serious!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
22. Some other points to ponder....
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

1. Must have been a frightening event such as chest pain, panic attack or severe headache. Normally, if it warranted going to Walter Reed, they would have taken the 'chopper. That tells me tRump didn't want the optics of an emergency trip and they gave him initial treatment in the WH doctor's facility and rushed him there in a motorcade.

2. It was hurriedly planned because they didn't even notify Walter Reed security in advance as they always do, so roads can be closed, etc. So no, it was not a routine physical exam visit. Further, if it was it would have been on the White House schedule.

3. What tests could they not have done in the White House Doctor's office? It surely must have been a scan of some sort such as MRI or CT and that would explain the brief visit.

I expect tRump to show his butt on TV soon, even if they have to prop him up with a pole.

All their lies are entirely for the big show........

Botany

(70,490 posts)
23. I think it was last Friday but when I saw Trump speaking he did not look well at all.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

His speech was labored, he was slurring his words, and he was holding on tight to
the podium.

Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
24. This from Kelly O'Donnell
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:45 PM
Nov 2019

Kelly O'Donnell

Verified account

@KellyO
Follow Follow @KellyO
More
The White House has called a "lid" for the day just after 9am which means no planned events or departures from the White House grounds for the president are expected.
6:17 AM - 17 Nov 2019

No idea if this is something they normally do or not.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
33. He has never been an intelligent person, but I do think that he possibly is in...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

...severe mental decline, possibly owing to reduced oxygen flow to his brain.

It would not surprise me if the Republicans, their backs increasingly against the wall, suddenly declare a need to engage the 25th amendment to shield him and themselves from further investigation/prosecution.

Iwasthere

(3,158 posts)
35. This is exactly what I've been thinking
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:06 PM
Nov 2019

They have been brainstorming ways to stop the hearing, you k how that

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
26. Oh I'm sure we'll hear that he's again, the healthy so-called president ever!! We've all heard ...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019

this stupid lie before. Just look at him...you can see the Cholesterol and other bad stuff literally jumping off him/off a sinking ship. And what's really pathetic about this whole thing is that he won't ever listen to anyone anyways about his health, or anything else for that matter (six, SIX bankruptcies!).

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
28. he is loosing it
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

he is freaking out
his nervous system is on overload
his body is breaking down
my advise is to admit your crimes, resign and go away

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
54. I agree with your advice
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:00 PM
Nov 2019

But would add he needs to tell all and share the names of those involved
Ie: pissypence, moscowmitch, gottagogaetz, knowsallgymjordan, lillyliveredlyndsey,
“Let it go” takes the stress and worry off.
If nothing else America would feel better.
( just not those involved, but like melania’s coat
“We don’t care about them”

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,715 posts)
36. Ya know he believes that the heart...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:11 PM
Nov 2019

Only has so many times it can beat...maybe he got a “reset”? Hit the switch hidden inside his belly button and Doc says you’re good for another 250,000.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
37. I really don't care, do you?
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:29 PM
Nov 2019

Call me what you will, taking newborns away from mothers with no record where they go, Fuck him. Go home to YOUR God evil fat ass. They got mansions on a hill, streets of gold and unlimited virgins. He will be at home, but.....will try to belittle God and claim he is the elected leader. The mother of all parties will happen here when it all ends.

Traildogbob

(8,716 posts)
42. No no
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:14 PM
Nov 2019

I was not intending to post "at"you. Just with you. I took no offence to your post at all, just tagging along. I deeply hate the whole family and his cult fellow reps in congress and senate. Wish they did not have such amazing health insurance and "any" out of pocket, is our freakin pocket. Yet still try want to destroy ours. Peace at you. He someday will croak, then the party starts.

OMGWTF

(3,951 posts)
44. Traitor Tot also said you're given a finite amou energy to use in this lifetime, so by that logic...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

babies should be the strongest people in the world. What a fidiot. Maybe cholesterol is democracy's only hope.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. "My health has taken an unexpected turn for the worse, therefore I must resign..."
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:12 PM
Nov 2019

"My health has taken an unexpected turn for the worse, therefore I must resign the office of President, effective at noon tomorrow."

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
58. I keep champagne cold in a spare fridge
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 05:08 PM
Nov 2019

so I'll be ready for Trump's departure any time it happens. I don't care how it happens as long as he's gone.

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
60. At the grocery store customer service desk there's bubbly under lock and key.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 05:36 PM
Nov 2019

I said hmm I'm thinking of one of those. A few or all were over $200! Holy Smocks! We had a good laugh.
🥂

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
69. I'll settle for a very cold bottle of Cava. cheap and quite good
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:51 PM
Nov 2019

I think it makes excellent Mimosas; the dryness of the bubbly with the sweet OJ is a great balance

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
70. Thanx for the FYI! I am also fond of fizzy moscato. 🍾
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:44 PM
Nov 2019

Fizzy Moscato and I went to different schools together.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
46. There have been several times he has slurred his speech to the
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:42 PM
Nov 2019

point of it sounding more like gibberish than normal.

I think he has been having TIAs. This could also explain his weird bumbling behavior like when he wandered out of the room during a bill signing ceremony.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. TIAs certainly make sense... I just thought he was feeling the effects of Adderall, or...
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:35 PM
Nov 2019

TIAs certainly make sense... I just thought he was feeling the effects of Adderall, or... perhaps it's from his UK-purchased Sudafed (which has a different formula than Sudafed in the US).

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/10/we-need-talk-about-picture-donald-trump






Politicub

(12,165 posts)
67. I forgot about the Sudafed stash.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 08:31 PM
Nov 2019

The photo of him with dilated pupils is really telling.

If he has high blood pressure, the Sudafed could be making that condition worse.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
62. During that outdoor press thingy on his way to Louisiana he had a twitch at the corner
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 06:34 PM
Nov 2019

of his mouth. Things like that and the slurring speech would indicate he's either doped up on psychotropic drugs or having TIAs.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
68. TIA, carotid artery blockage, CHF are all possibilities
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:48 PM
Nov 2019

he may be on night time O2 which is why he stays up in the residence unless his presence is required. Also explains "executive time" The early stages of carotid artery blockage are sometimes treated this way as compensation for reduced O2 flow.

I'd bet money he sleeps with a CPAP machine on full board.

TIA, (aka stroklets) could affect speech, gait, memory and more and could possibly be related to carotid artery issues if they exist.

CHF definitely relates to bloating. I would also love to see his feet. I bet they are extremely puffy. His hands would be swollen as well.

An IV of Lasix would get that fluid out of there. I think that is another 4 hour process, but should also be doable in the WH medical unit.

One of these days we may find out, however the speculation is so much fun!

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
64. Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 07:04 PM
Nov 2019

That is the lens through which all his statements must be evaluated.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
66. The tweet earlier today that was attributed to him was likely written by staff.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 08:03 PM
Nov 2019

I say that for two reasons. First, it said Biden was not the person Kim made him out to be. Trump has historically not said anything nice about a rival. Second, it was well written, with smooth flowing sentences that actually had a thematic relationship with eachother.

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