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Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:33 PM Nov 2019

I think the NY Post and other right wing news sources made up testimony about Marie Yavanovitch

If anyone can verify that Yovanovitch actually said this please do. And if you can verify that she didn't please do. So far I see nothing in searches of her testimony that say what they are reporting.

(And I am not peddling RW talking points. I am trying to find out if they make shit up and then they all repeat it. Because when I Google'd these "statements" I only found that the right wing rags are repeating them)


Here is the post article. News sources like The Blaze and Breitbart are also reporting that she said this.

"Marie Yovanovitch admits Obama admin prepped her on Hunter Biden"

This is what they are reporting that she said:

“We — I was aware of it, because as I told you before, in the deposition, there had been a — in terms of the preparation for my Senate confirmation hearings for Ukraine, there was a question about that and a select answer,” Yovanovitch replied."

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/marie-yovanovitch-admits-obama-admin-prepped-her-on-hunter-biden-before-her-confirmation/

A select answer? That is what made me suspicious. So I got a PDF of the transcript and did several searches and cannot find anything like what these rags are reporting. I also listened to

Here is the PDF: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776075849/read-former-ukraine-ambassador-yovanovitchs-testimony-to-congress

I even watched the video of this questioning again and I can't find that quote!


If they are making up shit it needs to be reported. I think Twitter will take it down but maybe not FB.

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I think the NY Post and other right wing news sources made up testimony about Marie Yavanovitch (Original Post) Maraya1969 Nov 2019 OP
I heard her say it.. luvs2sing Nov 2019 #1
K&R 2naSalit Nov 2019 #2
Might be in her public testimony, not her deposition unc70 Nov 2019 #3
Ambassador Yavanovitch did say that during the hearing sagesnow Nov 2019 #4
I see nothing at your link that talks about what the ambassador was asked during her senate Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #5
Your link was to the October closed hearing transcript; here is it in the November public hearing muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #7
I can't get there because of the damn pay wall. Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #11
Try the CNN site: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #20
Yes - she said it. CincyDem Nov 2019 #6
OK Someone please SHOW ME WHERE SHE SAID THIS! Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #8
See upthread. yardwork Nov 2019 #10
the OP is taking this the same way the opponents are. stopdiggin Nov 2019 #12
OK it is just these Trump supporters on my FB page; well someone else posted something and one Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #13
The select answer was to refer them to the VP's office karynnj Nov 2019 #17
There's nothing nefarious or secretive or inappropriate about that. yardwork Nov 2019 #18
I've been dispositioned for a court case ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #9
Yea me too. I remember my lawyer saying, "I say this and then you say this" Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #14
What would be wrong with her having been prepped for that question with the FACTS pnwmom Nov 2019 #15
It was in the hearing, however when asked the prepared response, it was to ask the VP karynnj Nov 2019 #16
Are you concerned that the quote was made up or with the substance of the quote onenote Nov 2019 #19
It doesn't matter. docgee Nov 2019 #21
She said it. snort Nov 2019 #22

unc70

(6,109 posts)
3. Might be in her public testimony, not her deposition
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:41 PM
Nov 2019

Seems like there was something like that early in the Repub questioning, Nunes or Castor.

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
4. Ambassador Yavanovitch did say that during the hearing
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:43 PM
Nov 2019

She said Hunter Biden working at Burisma gave the possible impression of conflict of interest (since he was the Vice President's son). And that the Obama Administration questioned her about it during her confirmation hearings, as I recall.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/what-joe-biden-actually-did-in-ukraine/ar-BBWzCtS?li=AAggFp4

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
5. I see nothing at your link that talks about what the ambassador was asked during her senate
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:50 PM
Nov 2019

confirmation hearing. It is not even the subject that I am talking about. Please re-read my OP

muriel_volestrangler

(101,268 posts)
7. Your link was to the October closed hearing transcript; here is it in the November public hearing
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:01 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/16/transcript-marie-yovanovitchs-nov-testimony-front-house-intelligence-committee/ (just under half way through)

CASTOR: And, you know, one of the folks they added to their board was the vice president's son, Hunter Biden, which, you know, raises questions, is he a genius on the corporate governance front? Is he a genius with the Ukrainian oligarchical systems and cleaning that up? Or was he just added to the board because he's the vice president's son? Was that ever, you know, a concern or that -- at least the perception of that concern, addressed?

YOVANOVITCH: As I said, I arrived in August of 2016, you know, several months before the elections and several months before President Trump took office. And it was not a focus of what I was doing in -- in that six-month period.

CASTOR: OK. Was -- was the issue ever raised at all?

YOVANOVITCH: You know, not -- not...

CASTOR: He was still on the board, I think, at the time.

YOVANOVITCH: Yeah, my understanding from newspaper accounts is that he just recently left, in 2019. I never met him, never -- never talked to him. And I'm sorry, what was your question?

CASTOR: He was still on the board when you arrived at post, and was just wondering if -- if at least the perception problem was -- was brought to your attention as the ambassador?

YOVANOVITCH: We -- I was aware of it because, as I told you before in -- in the deposition, there had been a -- in terms of the preparation for my Senate confirmation hearings for Ukraine, there was a question about that and a select answer. So I was aware of it, yes.

CincyDem

(6,336 posts)
6. Yes - she said it.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 01:54 PM
Nov 2019


Referencing her prep book for the hearings. Said that among the hundreds of pages of prep material, there was a Q&A on it. I'm not 1000% sure that she said "select" but I can imagine that it's a true quote. Suggested administration response if the topic came up...pretty standard stuff.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
8. OK Someone please SHOW ME WHERE SHE SAID THIS!
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:02 PM
Nov 2019

I have been searching the testimony

The NY Post article says this was from the House's second PUBLIC impeachment hearing. So that means this past week right?

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776075849/read-former-ukraine-ambassador-yovanovitchs-testimony-to-congress

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
12. the OP is taking this the same way the opponents are.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:22 PM
Nov 2019

That this quote would somehow indicate nefarious action or cover-up. It doesn't. But that won't stop them from spinning it.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
13. OK it is just these Trump supporters on my FB page; well someone else posted something and one
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:22 PM
Nov 2019

of them linked this NY Post article with the title:

Marie Yovanovitch admits Obama admin prepped her on Hunter Biden

And I had a hard time believing that the Obama administration would actually tell her what to say, as in, "A select answer" in response to the question that would probably come up at her senate confirmation hearing regarding Hunter Biden's job at Barisma. And several right winged outfits are reporting that it is a big deal that they told her what to say.

That's it. I guess I was so frantic to see if she said that I did not express myself clearly as to why I wanted to know if it was true. But I suppose it is not that big a deal since witness prep involves telling the witness what to say to hard questions.


This is the paragraph: "We — I was aware of it, because as I told you before, in the deposition, there had been a — in terms of the preparation for my Senate confirmation hearings for Ukraine, there was a question about that and a select answer,” Yovanovitch replied.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
18. There's nothing nefarious or secretive or inappropriate about that.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:57 PM
Nov 2019

The Obama administration wasn't happy about Hunter Biden being on that board. That's been made clear in previous testimony. However, there's no evidence that Hunter Biden used his role inappropriately.

In contrast, Trump's administration and all his adult children have repeatedly, egregiously used their positions for personal gain.

The Republican "concern" about Hunter Biden is laughably hypocritical. Throw Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner back in their faces.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
15. What would be wrong with her having been prepped for that question with the FACTS
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
Nov 2019

The fact is that Biden didn't make US policy, he only helped to carry it out. The fact is the prosecutor the US wanted OUT was the one who was NOT investigating Burisma. Burisma was at more risk with a new, not-corrupt prosecutor.

But the ambassador couldn't have been expected to know the details of every board member of every major company in Ukraine. That wasn't her job. So they prepped her in case a question came up.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
16. It was in the hearing, however when asked the prepared response, it was to ask the VP
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:37 PM
Nov 2019

Office.

It made sense given the timing when she had the hearing that they would have included that question I. The briefing book. Hunter's position was noted in news articles and questions were asked at State Department briefings.

It would have been negligent on the part of whomever helped prepare her not to include anything. Just referring it to the VP's office gets rid of a potential hot potato.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
19. Are you concerned that the quote was made up or with the substance of the quote
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 02:59 PM
Nov 2019

It has been shown that the quote wasn't made up.

And there was nothing wrong with the substance.

docgee

(870 posts)
21. It doesn't matter.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:10 PM
Nov 2019

It doesn't matter if Hunter Biden is guilty of anything, or that the Obama administration investigated him. It's a complete red herring. Trump is still guilty of bribery (extortion in my opinion).

snort

(2,334 posts)
22. She said it.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:35 PM
Nov 2019

She also said that there were hundreds of questions on the deposition. Her confirmation process was thorough.

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