Trump's hospital visit looks curiouser and curiouser

[StarfishSaver]

Link to tweet

There seems to be a sense of urgency in the movements here - this wasn't an ordinary trip. But more telling, is the fact that the doc is riding in the car with Trump.

It's not strange that, if the president is going to a medical appointment, his doctor would go along. But it IS strange for the doc to go in the car with him.

The president's doctor ALWAYS goes everywhere the president goes since they must always be in immediate proximity to him, for obvious reasons. He/she is in every motorcade, on the helicopter, even rides in the same elevator. But while they are usually in a car in the motorcade, they rarely ride in the same vehicle with the president.

Why was the doc in the car with him if he was "fine" and was just going for routine matter?

There's a lot more going on here than they're admitting.

[JoeOtterbein]

1. K n R

[Kurt V.]

2. no, it was curious from the beginning. a part of the problem

[Grasswire2]

3. But Trump walked to the car by himself.

I believe it's a stunt.

And do we think his WH physician wouldn't participate witting or un in a stunt? Remember Ronny the Candyman?

[StarfishSaver]

7. Look at him closely

Open shirt, no tie. When was the last time anyone saw him move that determinedly.

This looks like a rush to the hospital.

If it was a stunt, they could have easily carried him out on a stretcher ...

[Jewls2]

23. That determined walk goes either way. Really incapacitated, there would be more hunched

and slower. The brisk walk has me wondering. And he never does that.

[StarfishSaver]

25. He doesn't need to be incapacitated to be in a medical emergency

And his doctor riding in the limo with him is really weird. The doctor always rides in the motorcade, but never in the president's car. This was done kind of medical emergency requiring his doctor to be in his vehicle. That's not normal.

[Jewls2]

36. I get that he doesn't have to be incapacitated, and agree with the doctor movement and being in car.

Just, if heart or panic attack I do not feel he would be so straight but more hunched and slower. I do not think Trumps ego and illness being a sign of weakness would use this to gain sympathy or try to get out of trouble or distract from headlines. He really has contempt for people with illness or injury or any imperfection or imagined imperfection.

[Danascot]

40. Nicely said

[StarryNite]

81. Exactly what you said here...

"I do not think Trumps ego and illness being a sign of weakness would use this to gain sympathy or try to get out of trouble or distract from headlines. He really has contempt for people with illness or injury or any imperfection or imagined imperfection."

[phleshdef]

33. I am still thinking a panic attack. I've been suffering from them for almost a decade myself.

It would explain chest discomfort that turns out to be benign and it would explain him not being hospitalized for further observation. One of my early panic attacks, I thought something really bad was happening and went to the ER, they ran the necessary tests to rule out a problem with my heart or thyroid... then they gave me a mild sedative and within 10 minutes, I was totally normal.

[Jewls2]

37. I had a panic attack I thought heart attack and had ambulance pick em up, so I hear you.

I couldn't get air, and his walk does not suggest he is struggling to get air. They do all hit differently.

[phleshdef]

43. Yea I can breath fine when mine hit but I shake all over, my heart races, my chest can feel heavy...

...I have rotating hot flashes and cold flashes and my body registers a fake numbness in my extremities. I have to go take long, brisk walks to burn down the adrenaline. But I've never had shortness of breath which is common for most other people who suffer from panic disorder. My heart beats like I've been running a marathon though. Ugh. Its torture.

[Jewls2]

49. The shaking. I had bruises on both arms the nurses trying to get an IV in.

Finally a doctor took it from the nurse and demand I quit shaking. Lol. Ya, ok, if I could I would. I do not like being jabbed by a needle anymore than the nurse was enjoying trying to get the IV in.

[phleshdef]

60. That is one dumb ass doctor.

And telling me something like that is just going to make it worse.

[StarfishSaver]

44. A president who travels everywhere with a motorcycle escort and full intersection control

doesn't need an ambulance ...

[Jewls2]

48. Ya. I wasn't suggesting he did. But you are right.

[StarfishSaver]

52. Understood!

[WheelWalker]

42. I'm still going with Reality Attack.

[phleshdef]

45. Or maybe just reality defending itself, lol.

[homegirl]

132. I agree

and its about time. May he be visited with them on an hourly basis from now on.

[lagomorph777]

119. I wouldn't wish a panic attack on anybody

except Trump.

[lastlib]

32. HMMmmm......kinda looks like Rublonic plague to me.....

By any chance did he have a polonium sammich from Apparat-Chik-Fil-A?

[paleotn]

61. Ha!

[paleotn]

59. Your first part....

That is telling. Unless he's golfing, I don't think I've ever seen a picture or video clip of him NOT in a suit and tie going all the way back to the 80's.

Well, my wife keeps telling me, he looks like one of her patients when they're about ready to pop. She commented on how baggy his eyes were a few days ago.

[oldsoftie]

86. But a stretcher would make him look "weak" (in HIS view).

So if this is a stunt he'd NEVER go for that

[ooky]

107. Well, not "easily".

I would not want to be one of the stretcher handlers with him on it.

[get the red out]

154. My Grandpa walked to the ambulance

on his own when experiencing heart pain, he even insisted on stopping to get his dress hat! He had a massive heart attack on the way to the hospital and died. He was about Trump’s age but was not overweight and had been physically active all his life (but my Grandmother cooked everything in lard).

[dewsgirl]

4. There really is. QAnon folks have already killed him off,

and an imposter is playing him.🙄

[regnaD kciN]

10. "I buried Don..."

He'd have blown his mind out in a car, if he had one.

[dewsgirl]

13. LOL😆

[MyOwnPeace]

14. Beatles...........

I read the news today, oh boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well, I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if he was from the House of Lords............

[klook]

62. The walrus was John!!1!1

[orangecrush]

91. ...

[Raster]

137. Goo goo g'joob...

...

[reACTIONary]

142. yellow matter custard....

[paleotn]

63. Start that meme on facebook

I dare ya.

[coeur_de_lion]

115. Picture this

trump removes his mask Mission Impossible style.

Underneath he is really Vladimir Putin.

[dewsgirl]

116. Perfect.

[mr_lebowski]

130. Underneath he is Jaqen H'ghar!

[flying_wahini]

144. GOT it

Love the reference.

[Baltimike]

5. A panic attack explains it bc the symptoms are close to that of a heart attack. nt

[mahina]

29. Right. I walked to the car during mine.

My family thought it was a heart attack.

[eggplant]

34. the symptoms are *identical* to that of a heart attack.

I know, I've had both.

You diagnose a heart attack by the presence of certain enzymes in the bloodstream that unfortunately take an hour or two to appear. They are released by the dying muscle tissue. Until then, they just keep an eye on you (plus interventional meds like blood thinners just in case something else happens).

[WheelWalker]

46. Reality Attack.

[littlemissmartypants]

53. If only!

[WheelWalker]

56. Involuntary, to be sure.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

6. Yes and Trump is a liar and thinks he is a master showman

so if yer on the hook ,that's the plan. For Trump it's a two way street, he can lie to the doctor or have the doctor lie for him. Either way the doctor does what Trump expects the doctor to do. Same applies to the attorney general or anybody that serves at the pleasure of Trump. It's all in how you read into those lies or not.

[blueinredohio]

8. I know hospitals around here don't do routine blood work on weekends and

Why didn't they put him in the psyche ward while they had a chance?

[StarfishSaver]

9. He could get routine bloodwork at the White House.

[yellowdogintexas]

50. cardiac enzyme study is not routine

only done if cardiac event is suspected
requires 4 blood draws approx 1 hour apart
indicates certain enzymes which are released as heart muscle deteriorates
WH would not have that equipment or the cardiologist to do the interps
tracks changes in those enzymes

It makes a really cool graph that maps out the rise and fall of the levels
Any hospital with a good ER would be capable of doing this 24/7 and I would expect there to be several facilities including Walter Reed which would have this

[StarfishSaver]

54. Interesting. Thanks.

They probably could have gotten the equipment and the cardiologist to the White House and done the draws there, but that would likely have attracted even more attention than him just going to the hospital - and since Trump's communications team thinks the whole country is as stupid and gullible as his MAGA base, they likely figured their "it's just routine - nothing to see here" lie would fly.

[yellowdogintexas]

57. the doctors would have wanted him in the facility in case

further intervention were needed, like cath lab or even surgery. Or if he went downhill, he could be rushed to the ER

Now if the body double theory holds, he is still at WR in the ICU post a 5 artery bypass. (I can't in my wildest dreams imagine that a 1 artery stent would be all that was needed)

[StarfishSaver]

67. Thanks for this info!

[Grasswire2]

70. Hell, they could draw the blood at WH and send it by courier or chopper even to Walter Reed.

If they wanted to do so.

[StarfishSaver]

74. True - but YellowDog gave a good explanation of why they might not do that

[Grasswire2]

82. YellowDog is overlooking the power of communications that medicine has these days..

....between facilities and services.

A smallish urban hospital can connect with the most qualified experts in an instant for consultations, day and night. Be assured that the connection between Walter Reed and the WH -- and even between Walter Reed and the motorcade -- is top notch.

And the FIRST test administered to rule out MI now is the sensitive Troponin I. If it shows 0.01-0.04, the other following three blood draws aren't even done. MI ruled out. No heart damage.

See this:

For troponin concentrations 0.40 ng/mL and higher, the underlying cardiac injury is usually a myocardial infarction. Troponin concentrations of 0.04-0.39 ng/mL require serial troponin measurements and clinical correlation to interpret, as further described in the guidelines

Ergo, under 0.04, nada.

[Grasswire2]

69. you are talking about Troponin.

Cardiac enzymes is an older set of tests.

Yes, Troponin has serial blood draws. But if the first is nearly zero, they often don't bother with the rest. Been there, done that multiple times.

[yellowdogintexas]

133. thanks for that update! It has been a few years since I read medical records in my job(s)

One of my many medical jobs was data analysis for a predictive cardiac study and I got to read all those cool graphs and charts; even learned to read EKGs. The cardiologist directing the study sat down with me and taught me how to read them, and how to decipher many other things. I had to record results of many diagnostic things which were on a list for the study.

We did one with thyroids several years prior.

Also was a claims analyst in various types of Medical Insurance which sometimes required picking stuff apart.

There is also my medical degree from ER, St Elsewhere and Gray's Anatomy !!!

My absolute love of all this stuff made me absorb it like a sponge.

So does Troponin need special equipment that the WH would not be expected to have? Even in the old days a negative result on the first draw would pretty much close the case.

[Grasswire2]

134. according to medical literature, Tropinin test takes ten minutes to run...

...and a hand-held machine called an iSTAT is sufficient for the test at what is called "POC" -- point of contact -- if necessary.

So yes. Troponin could be done at WH, within minutes. The first test for heart damage, the gold standard.

]https://www.woodleyequipment.com/product/76/i-STAT-Portable-Clinical-Analyser

[Grasswire2]

64. He could get the troponin drawn there, as well

That's the FIRST marker for heart damage.

[MyOwnPeace]

17. "Why didn't they put him in the psyche ward while they had a chance?"

[Arkansas Granny]

11. Here's the best explanation I've seen so far.

Link to tweet

?s=20


LOLGOP
@LOLGOP
Given how ridiculous his impeachment defenses are I don't know why they don't just say "We had to go because his erection lasted more than four hours."

Link to tweet

…

Jonathan Lemire
✔
@JonLemire
The president’s unexpected visit to Walter Reed hospital was Saturday. He was not in public view today. Reporters are not expected to see him tomorrow either, per his public schedule:

View image on Twitter

[CaptainTruth]

12. Trump is carrying something, with a folder hiding it.

Someone on Twitter posted zoomed-in frames from the video & it looks like Trump is carrying a rectangular box with some sort of connections on top (tubes? wires to monitor vital signs?) with a manila folder in front of it or perhaps wrapped around it, to hide the box.

I'll try to post a link...

[link:

Link to tweet

?s=09|]

[Johnny2X2X]

16. That's a medical device

May not be an IV machine. Might be a heart monitor.

[StarfishSaver]

18. Maybe a Holter monitor?

[louis-t]

31. Holter device is easily hidden under clothes on belt.

I oughta know. Wore one for weeks. Then had another device for a few days.

[StarfishSaver]

39. Ahh. Ok.

[MFM008]

80. Yes they used to be large

But now as small as your phone or smaller.
Even when you wear one for a month..

[coeur_de_lion]

19. He might have had an Adderall overdose

[oldsoftie]

89. I doubt he'd be walking!

[mr_lebowski]

131. You're right, he'd be jogging ... while talking incessantly with the person next to him ... nt

[True Blue American]

150. Well, he was jogging

For Trump! I have never seen him move that fast, except when the young man jumped on stage in Dayton.

[Johnny2X2X]

21. I bet someone here in the medical field can ID that

Someone who works as a doctor or nurse will know what that is right away.

Anyone?

[BannonsLiver]

128. We have so many medical experts at DU

The breadth of knowledge, the expertise and the know how of some of the responses here are completely awe inspiring.

[Mossfern]

138. It's his candy stash

[50 Shades Of Blue]

15. WH story does seem fishy. But if it was a real emergency, wouldn't

Trump be taken to a hospital closer to the White House than Walter Reed? Or go by ambulance where he could be under the care of EMT's on the way?

[StarfishSaver]

20. Walter Reed is the president's hospital

And his doctor was in the vehicle with him and there's always an ambulance in his motorcade with medics and paramedics on board.

If it wasn't a critical or immediately life-threatening situation, it's logical to take him to Walter Reed

[50 Shades Of Blue]

24. That was my point. It wasn't that big of an emergency then.

[StarfishSaver]

28. It may not have been an imminent life-threatening emergency, but it wasn't "routine" either.

But it was clearly some kind of emergency that couldn't be handled by the White House Medical Unit and required his doctor to be at his side.

[MyOwnPeace]

22. Oh, come on!!!!!!!

You KNOW he wanted to go and visit veterans and wounded soldiers who had honorably served our country. It's the least an honorable chief executive can do - show respect and pride for those who have respectfully given of themselves to serve our country - just like him - and his family, who, of course, have given up so much just to serve with honor and pride to uphold the true TRUMP traditions, as proudly displayed on the family crest -

SCREW YOU AND THOSE THAT CAME WITH YOU!!!!

[superpatriotman]

26. Let's not forget the shit they gave Hillary

When she fell faint after a public appearance, etc.

[budkin]

27. Keep pounding those Big Macs Donnie!

And it’ll be just a matter of time...

[doc03]

30. The doctor and the other guy seemed to be in sort of a rush to get in the car.

[3catwoman3]

35. If he was really there "only" to visit the family of a soldier...

...surely there would be the usual cheesy photo op with Trump making his inappropriate thumbs up gesture and giving that leer that is his version of a smile.

[StarfishSaver]

47. That's a great point.

[dflprincess]

38. Odd that Melania wasn't along for the ride

I suppose she stayed at the White House so she could practice her grieving look in the mirror.

[unitedwethrive]

76. Which is differenct from her regular look how?

[dflprincess]

84. She'll need to look more sorrowful

rather than the mean look she usually has and resist the urge to smirk.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

101. And select the most appropriate black dress, and be sure it's pressed and ready.

She used this opportunity to practice her look:

[CaptYossarian]

122. She's had that same look since reading the pre-nup.

Everybody is saying he had a panic attack. It could be syphilis-induced dementia.

The doctor was in the car so they could dictate the condition for the press, just like Manhattan's Dr. Johnny Fever did a few years ago ("Mr. Trump is the healthiest person to ever run for political office in the history of the country.&quot .

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

123. The doctor was in the car because he thought Fat Nixon was going to keel over.

The doctor normally travels with the president but not in the same car.

[SweetieD]

103. I doubt she even lives at the white house.

[dawg day]

110. She supposedly lives with her son

In Maryland and comes to the WH just for the occasional official event, for which, I'm sure, she is directly compensated. So she probably wasn't even there to ride to the hospital with him.

[mopinko]

111. i dont know how much time she spends there.

i have heard she spend more time at her parent's house.
no idea if that is true, but i'd sure need a hidey hole if i were in her shoes.

[John Fante]

151. Melania was too busy ordering extra champagne and party supplies.

Just in case.

[Buns_of_Fire]

41. More appropriate he be accompanied by "The President's Analyst"

[bucolic_frolic]

51. Are London bookies taking odds yet?

[dhol82]

78. +1

[Mme. Defarge]

55. Thinking wistfully of the movie "Dave".

If Alec Baldwin mysteriously drops off the radar don’t be surprised if the pResident has a sudden personality transplant.

[CaptYossarian]

124. So Baldwin is going to yell at Ivanka? I'd pay to see that.

[wnylib]

58. Just keep in mind that if he does kick the bucket

from a heart attack, his cult will canonize him as a victim of Dem cruelty for holding impeachment hearings.

And Pence will be president.

Trump the thug will become a martyr.

If he is in poor health now, GOP will want another candidate for 2020.

Who is the most likely candidate to replace him? Haley?

[oldsoftie]

90. RWers still are pissed at Haley for removing the Dixie flag from the Statehouse grounds.

While she was governor

[durablend]

147. His "cult" is going to do that no matter what

You think it'll be different if the Senate *does* convict and toss him out (or he's voted out)? They'll be whining night and day "THE DEEP STATE GOT RID OF HIM!!!!!!!!!!"

[wnylib]

148. Of course the cult won't change. But they also

won't find a leader like the Russian don to replace him. As I said,they will canonize him but he will be history if he keels over.

They will cling to their ideology just like Nazis did when they were defeated. But the nutters will not have a fuhrer in the WH any more. They will look for an alternative but they will be more in the fringes where they belong.

Republicans need idiot characters like Raygun, W, and the Mafioso to be their front guys to appeal to people. Running a serious, capable candidate does not work for them because they can't get support for their policies. They rely on personality cult types who appeal to the worst in human nature and deliver snow jobs well.

[yellowdogintexas]

65. this link to the Tweet is much clearer than the other one I saw

It looks like something is pinned to the jacket or otherwise attached. Whatever it is, it is attached to the outside of the sleeve not carried.

Possibilities: Blood pressure cuff, which doctor would be monitoring every 5 minutes on the ride

he was prepped for an IV with the vein stick and initial tubing which was stopped and tied off until he is at the hospital or was on an IV until the MD decided to transport him for the Cardiac Profile and other tests/procedures as needed

[SergeStorms]

117. That's what I noticed as well.

He wasn't carrying anything, it was attached in some way to his sleeve. His ubiquitous necktie is missing and the top two buttons on his shirt are undone.

I'd say heart palpitations, severe high blood pressure, or something of that sort. It will be interesting to see how his energy levels appear in the near future. Abusing Adderall, or whatever drug he abuses to keep his energy levels abnormally high, would catch up with him sooner or later. Any Doctor in their right mind would prohibit it's use in the future, but we all know Trump doesn't take "suggestions" from anyone. Hopefully he continues his drug abuse and his heart, which must be the size of a canned ham by now, explodes like Aaron Judge hitting a WalMart piñata. We can't give up hope, anyway.

[StarfishSaver]

66. Trump's visit to Walter Reed 'not protocol' for routine visit, source says

Link to tweet

(CNN)President Donald Trump's visit to Walter Reed on Saturday did not follow the protocol of a routine presidential medical exam, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Medical staff at Walter Reed did not get a staff-wide notice about a presidential visit to the medical center in Bethesda, Maryland, ahead of Trump's arrival, according to that source...

The President's motorcade drove to the medical center unannounced, with reporters under direction not to report his movement until they arrived Saturday at Walter Reed. Trump typically takes the Marine One helicopter to Walter Reed, but on Saturday's clear-skied day, the President opted for the motorcade.

[getagrip_already]

68. doesn't trump normally ride in the "beast"? that ain't it...

It's a suburban, not a limo.

Odd choice of vehicle unless they needed special equipment.....

[StarfishSaver]

71. It's unusual to go in a vehicle other than the Beast, but not unheard of

Good catch, though! I wonder why he went in the Suburban?

[Grasswire2]

72. interesting observation

That may be a medically equipped vehicle that follows the Beast.

More sleuthing needed.

[DispondentRepublican]

73. He has got the nuke codes, so...

...if you ain’t a praying person, you had maybe better become one. Quick.

It’s autumn in America but this is one football we don’t need.

[SpankMe]

75. In another thread, I hypothesized that this is all fake

They're preparing for Trump to resign for "medical reasons" in order to avoid looking like he's resigning to avoid impeachment. If he leaves before the impeachment vote in the house, he can avoid being a historic case of having been an impeached president.

[llmart]

83. I tend to agree with you.

He knows that Reagan was seen as such a hero for joking and walking to the ambulance when he got shot, and his goofy line to Nancy that got repeated ad nauseum back then was part of the "story line" that built his image into something out of a 1950's western. Someone came up with this ploy to get us all talking about him.

What I want to know is where are the photos of Ivanka and the idiot boys and Melania rushing to the hospital if this were truly an emergency?

[SergeStorms]

118. Ivanka, the idiot boys and Melanie....

hate him too. Maybe if he was confined to the hospital they'd show up for a few minutes. They'll all show up when the will is read though, because that's all they care about. I think they're going to be shocked at how little Trump is actually worth though.

[oldsoftie]

87. But Pence is much easier to beat than Trump. His minions wont follow Pence

Then again, if he's saving his own ass he probably doesnt care if the GOP wins or not.

[bullwinkle428]

99. "I'VE NEVER QUIT ANYTHING IN MY LIFE!!"...he stated, just a few weeks ago. Yes, except

for his first two marriages, and many, many failed business ventures over the decades.

[Joe Nation]

77. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Feel free to interpret that any way you wish. I won't judge.

[yaesu]

79. just another tRump reality show episode for the ratings. NT

[FightingIrish]

85. They changed the official schedule after the fact.

None of this was on there yesterday.
https://factba.se/topic/calendar

[Hermit-The-Prog]

88. I'm gonna repeat myself -- it's constipation ...

Elise Stefanik tried to join Leningrad Lindsey, Moscow Mitch, Cowpile Nunes, Skeezy Scalise, and Rancid Paul up in Trump's ass and even that big gut finally hit its limit.

[SergeStorms]

121. Ahhhhh....an intestinal blockage.

My Aunt - who was a nurse - called this a "fecal impaction of the circle of willis". That means he's full of shit all the way up to the top of his head. With all of those Senators and Congress-critters up his ass, it's no wonder.

[CaptYossarian]

126. I thought the colonoscopy found Pirro Polyps and Hannity Hemorrhoids.

[jzola]

92. It's a stunt

He’s changing the subject.

[Thekaspervote]

109. This! He's having a cat like transactional response. I love cats, but when they become angry

They can see everything and everyone as the enemy, which he does all the time. So his idiotic laser beam focus went from hating everyone to his body and like everything else is blown out of proportion

[dweller]

93. maybe the doc is the one trusted

to administer the rino tranquilizer dart?

[Thekaspervote]

108. Funnieeeee!!

[grumpyduck]

94. Distraction.

And "feel sorry for me."

[ThoughtCriminal]

95. Bone spurs again? - nt

[SujiwanKenobee]

96. What's the expression on the face of the running man?

There's a (security?) guy making a run past the two standing behind the Pres. car to go to the car behind. It's hard to see clearly but I thought it looked like he was grinning just before he went off screen. Am I wrong?

[3catwoman3]

105. It looked that way to me, too.

Interesting.

[Orrex]

97. I want that fucker to die of natural causes tonight

Well, every night, if I'm being honest.

I'd love for him to die of natural causes every night from now until the stars burn out.



And I love that those idiot racist fuckheads from the various online Conservative cesspits will be reading this and calling me triggered blah blah blah. I thank every last one of those stupid assholes for their devoted readership.

[zentrum]

98. I don't know--he seems vigorous, actually.

[Orrex]

100. I hope so

I hope that he's so fucking vigorous that his heart beats 200 times per minute, and that his blood pressure is high enough to inflate jumbo jet tires vigorously.

[zentrum]

120. LOL!

[evertonfc]

102. who knows

It looks like people were moving swiftly. I think it's obvious he was being treated for an unexpected medical event. Whatever the case, he's back, tweeting away.

[lunasun]

104. Who knows? Maybe he just had bad indigestion and being paranoid started to think Putin had poisoned

him since trump’s gig may be up and he is useless to his master now .
Trump may have demanded the doctor take him to the hospital and stay with him on the ride.
Just too many variables and the WH will never give the truth

[BannonsLiver]

129. We'll never know

The MSM is sitting this one out so there won’t be any digging for facts. Even HuffPo won’t touch the story.

[tclambert]

143. Recent pictures of Trump's face have made me wonder about dioxin poisoning,

similar to former Ukrainian president Viktor Yuschenko. I wonder if someone on Trump's staff could be slowly poisoning him, as a way of pushing him out of office, you know, for the good of the Republican Party.

[Blue Owl]

106. Red Don's really Russian to that vehicle

Never seen the pinko blob move that fast before...

[mopinko]

112. i think he had a panic attack, but he wouldnt believe the docs that he didnt have an mi.

no way he doesnt get an airlift to reed if the docs really thought there was a cardiac event.
suspect they already had the first round of testing, but he wouldnt believe he wasnt going to die.

[StarfishSaver]

114. Actually, it takes longer to get to Walter Reed by helicopter

That's how the president usually gets there. But going by motorcade is faster than lifting there, so the fact that they drove is another sign to me that this was a medical emergency.

That might explain why they went in an SUV and not in the limousine he normally travels in - perhaps the SUV had certain emergency equipment they couldn't easily manage in the sedan.

[MontanaMama]

127. Malcolm Nance was talking this am about the motorcade

to the hospital and whether it was the usual 20 car motorcade or a 3-5 car motorcade....he said if there were just a handful of vehicles, then his assumption would be that it was a true medical emergency. It the full motorcade took the MF to the hospital then that would point to something more planned. He also said that the WH has a level 1 trauma center staffed 24/7 so the need for the emergency trip to the hospital is very curious indeed.

[Gothmog]

113. I think that this was not a physical

[MoonRiver]

125. Idiot, is obese, has a heart condition, has high cholesterol, and eats crap day and night.

Next time we will see an ambulance at the WH, and all doubt shall be removed.

[panfluteman]

135. I have a handy little formula that I use in dealing with any statement of or story about Trump:

Whatever it is, the exact opposite is true!

[duforsure]

153. I agree!

He very easily could be suffering from congestive heart disease, or had a mini stroke or something, but I doubt this was anything but routine and he's lying. Thinking the opposite is almost always closer to the truth from this sociopath , and corrupt serial liar and malignant narcissist . It also could be a pr stunt to distract, and redirect attention like he's used before, or he got more really bad news causing his blood pressure to skyrocket causing problems.

[LiberalLovinLug]

136. I wish the very best of health for the President!

No way I want him to get out of jail free because of the health sympathy card.

You just know Fox News and other RW media will by milking that angle if Trump ever actually suffers a serious medical condition. "Democrats kicking Trump even when he's down!" And all kinds of news stories of a weepy Melania and Barron coming to visit him. And poor Donnie, feeling sorry for himself, actually being quiet and actually looking human. Even MSNBC will be toning it down. And Donnie will make sure we know about every ache and pain he is bravely fighting.

He can be hit with every worst disease and injury after he is forced out of office, but please let him face justice without that sympathy card.

[Mr.Bill]

139. Has he been seen in public since the trip to the hospital? n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

140. I'll take Discreet Catheterizations for $200, Alex

Let's make it a Daily Double

[TechNerd]

141. Would be surprised they are setting the stage for a "resign due to health reasons".

Resigning for health reasons would be the perfect out for Trump. Then Pence can pardon him from future prosecutions for his criminality.

[friend of m and j]

145. Trump is healthy as can be"

The White House press secretary appeared on Fox News on Saturday night to insist “as he Trump is healthy as can be” and that he merely wanted a “head start” on his annual exam.

Sounds like an incomplete sentence to me. If it later turns out he has a health problem she left herself an out in talking to the press. She meant to say "he is as healthy as can be" considering the enormous stress he is under, he is 73 years old, obese, has terrible eating habits, insist on eating an unhealthy diet, does not exercise, does not get enough sleep and has no friends , and lives a very lonely life which leads to depression.

[NurseJackie]

146. That's not much of an endorsement.

Trump is healthy as can be"

That's not much of an endorsement. Considering all those things that you pointed out, "healthy as can be" is a very low bar. It's right up there with he's "doing the best he can" (well, that's nice, but it's certainly not an indication of excellence.)

They're saying it's not a heart attack... I'll bet Melanie is disappointed.

[True Blue American]

149. Is that leaving the WH?

[NCLefty]

152. The boy who cried wolf 13,000 times needs to be believed THIS TIME! n/t