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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:56 PM Nov 2019

Pelosi's Most Brilliant Gambit Yet: Goad Trump into being a Witness against himself!

Left to his own devices, Trump would surely love to testify and testify in person on live TV.

He couldn't resist the invitation. He thinks he can charm anybody. Just think of the thrill of taking down his enemies and accusers face-to-face on live television. Huge ratings. I mean HUGE.

And he would win bragging points for juicing the ratings for the hearings – which he would say were a snooze until he took the stage and woke everybody up!

Of course, no sane lawyer or adviser would urge him to do it. But Trump has now surrounded himself by a bunch of yes-persons. Even some of his legal "briefs" are clearly dictated at least in part by the man himself. He thinks he knows more about war than the generals, more about diplomacy than the diplomats, more about the economy than the economists, so why not more about the law than the lawyers?

Of course, the people around him will try to sit on him, chain him to his desk, etc. And his supporters had better hope that they succeed, for once, in making him keep his mouth shut.

But you gotta admire Pelosi's attempt. This is surely her most brilliant bit of gamesmanship yet ... she's trying to goad Trump into being a witness against himself ...

God, wouldn't it be grand if the gambit succeeded!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-impeachment-trump-nancy-pelosi-face-the-nation-trump-has-every-opportunity-to-present-his-case-in-impeachment/

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Pelosi's Most Brilliant Gambit Yet: Goad Trump into being a Witness against himself! (Original Post) kennetha Nov 2019 OP
I hope he takes that bait. MineralMan Nov 2019 #1
I think Nancy is giving him panic attacks Hekate Nov 2019 #29
"...no sane lawyer or adviser would urge him to do it." PJMcK Nov 2019 #2
should have said "no marginally competent lawyer" perhaps. kennetha Nov 2019 #3
No sentient human being who has ever watched an episode of "Law and Order," perhaps. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #5
His narcissism and ego are too big to listen to advice oregonjen Nov 2019 #7
THIS n/t malaise Nov 2019 #11
Boxed Me. Nov 2019 #4
Yeah, he'll come in, get mad at the first wave of serious questioning, and then go stomping off... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #6
"I'm the president! You can't ask me that!" PJMcK Nov 2019 #8
The point DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #24
She plays him like a fiddle! Bravo Nancy! Cousin Dupree Nov 2019 #9
He'd Insist On Written Testimony smb Nov 2019 #10
well, reading and writing out answers is too much work, too.. kennetha Nov 2019 #12
Probably he'd insist on no questioning. nt Richard D Nov 2019 #38
Experience we can trust! NANCY PELOSI ROCKS!!! She knows what she's doing! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #13
Too Right NJ Me. Nov 2019 #18
He won't. He can't bear to be in a room where he isn't praised. And he doesn't want to risk this... progressoid Nov 2019 #14
Hillary Clinton testified in person, under oath, and on camera for 11 hours Tanuki Nov 2019 #15
Individual 1 becomes Exhibit A nt Xipe Totec Nov 2019 #16
He Would Surely Get Caught Lying!! blakstoneranger Nov 2019 #17
It wouldn't matter if Trump perjures himself TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #30
Well so far she's delivered lunatica Nov 2019 #19
I can't wait to see him reprise the role of Colonel Nathan R. Jessup LastDemocratInSC Nov 2019 #20
Speaker Pelosi Person of the Year grantcart Nov 2019 #21
Icing on the cake TheRickles Nov 2019 #22
I'd love to see it! maddiemom Nov 2019 #23
And if he refuses, just csll him out for demanding wnylib Nov 2019 #25
Democrats must learn to use drama and sensationalism more LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #26
Schiff played with that just a little and it bit us on the ass. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #28
No kidding TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #31
Right. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #32
Win win. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #27
Haha! Great minds think alike! Alithea Nov 2019 #34
Right. That is funny. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #36
But it's a delicious win-win Alithea Nov 2019 #33
If I was Trump's lawyer I would tackle him, and if necessary ... 11 Bravo Nov 2019 #35
For sure. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #37
Hey Donny, tweet yo self... into oblivion Blue Owl Nov 2019 #39
I think it was a mistake to suggest Trump could do it in writing. triron Nov 2019 #40
I love how she Shanti Mama Nov 2019 #41

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
2. "...no sane lawyer or adviser would urge him to do it."
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:00 PM
Nov 2019

What sane lawyer would work for Trump?!

Trump won't ever give testimony. Even he knows it would be disastrous for him. In the past, his depositions have proven him to be a terrible witness against himself.

Besides, Trump is a coward. He could never stand up to real scrutiny and questioning. Deep down, he knows this about himself.

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
6. Yeah, he'll come in, get mad at the first wave of serious questioning, and then go stomping off...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

and throwing a temper fit. Blah blah blah!! More lies, more excuses to excuse his illegal actions, more of the same ol' crap.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
8. "I'm the president! You can't ask me that!"
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:16 PM
Nov 2019

He's a loser.

He's also an idiot which is the only reason I think there's a very remote possibility that he would testify.

Ain't gonna happen.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
24. The point
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:05 PM
Nov 2019

The point should constantly be waved to the media that the precedent was set when Bill Clinton testified before congress during his impeachment hearings.

I guarantee the viewership would eclipse any previous record.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
12. well, reading and writing out answers is too much work, too..
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 02:39 PM
Nov 2019

But I guess someone would read the questions to him... or at least translate the questions into pictures so he could grasp them. And then they would listen to him babble on and try to turn the babble into prose!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Experience we can trust! NANCY PELOSI ROCKS!!! She knows what she's doing!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 03:49 PM
Nov 2019

We are very fortunate to have her. We will forever owe her a debt of gratitude... and many still owe her an apology for their ageist, insulting and denigrating comments.

Thank you Nancy Pelosi!

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
15. Hillary Clinton testified in person, under oath, and on camera for 11 hours
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:00 PM
Nov 2019

during the Benghazi travesty. But then again she was innocent of wrongdoing, and 45 is no match Hillary Clinton on any dimension.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
17. He Would Surely Get Caught Lying!!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:15 PM
Nov 2019

And if he's willing to answer written questions, then all the other knuckleheads who refuse to testify would need to testify also. Their reasons for not testifying is rebutted by trump's willingness to testify on paper. But if he does show up, it will be a perjury trap of his own making.

TheRealNorth

(9,471 posts)
30. It wouldn't matter if Trump perjures himself
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:38 PM
Nov 2019

Who is going to hold him accountable?

I am sure Moscow Mitch, Graham, and Grassley will come up with some sort of excuse that Trump's lies were not worthy of impeachment.

It's kind of a Hail Mary, but I wouldn't put it past Trump because he probably won't drop much farther in the polls no matter what he does.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Well so far she's delivered
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:24 PM
Nov 2019

Who, in their right mind, knew she was predicting the future when she said he would self impeach? There was laughter up to the rafters, yet behold!

TheRickles

(2,047 posts)
22. Icing on the cake
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:37 PM
Nov 2019

She could add that the ratings during his testimony would probably slump. I'm guessing he'd take that bait and run with it.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
23. I'd love to see it!
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:55 PM
Nov 2019

For posterity, we'd have it to compare with Hilary's marathon testimony on the Benghazi (real) "witch hunt."

wnylib

(21,345 posts)
25. And if he refuses, just csll him out for demanding
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:14 PM
Nov 2019

his right to speak (twitter) on his own behalf and then turning diwn the offer to let him speak. He says he wants fairness. What could be more fair than including his input, his side of things?

If.he demands written Q and A make sure he swears an oath before he receives the questions and then swears under oath again when he submits the answers that they are HIS answers and are truthful.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
26. Democrats must learn to use drama and sensationalism more
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:16 PM
Nov 2019

Republicans actually overplay that hand now all the time. But Democrats shy away from any of it. When sometimes they could use a bit of drama.

My point being, that you just know that Fox News and other RW media will continue to cry how its all so one sided, and how Democrats are not allowing Trump to mount any defence. And so Democrats should set a date..maybe two weeks from now, for Trump to come in and be a witness and defend himself. Maybe also remind people how Hillary sat for 11 hours in a Benghazi hearing. Then, when he doesn't show up, don't cancel anything. Have a whole day where CSPAN, CBS, focuses on an empty chaiir, maybe even have Schiff or others question the empty chair. Do something to make a point and make it so dramatic that it can compete with other reality TV shows that hog all the eyeballs.

 

Jewls2

(218 posts)
28. Schiff played with that just a little and it bit us on the ass.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:18 PM
Nov 2019

There is not a level playing field with the Republicans. We get called on things while Republicans get promoted for their extremes. Our Democratic leadership has to be much more careful, and clever. Pelosi is doing it well.

TheRealNorth

(9,471 posts)
31. No kidding
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:40 PM
Nov 2019

The media always plays the "Both sides" B.S. until it's a Democrat that is the offending party.

 

Jewls2

(218 posts)
27. Win win.
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:16 PM
Nov 2019

Goad him to testify which is a plus. He won't do it but if he did it would work for us.

Call his bluff showing the coward he is.

 

Alithea

(99 posts)
33. But it's a delicious win-win
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 05:49 PM
Nov 2019

if Pelosi continues and intensifies the jabbing, à la ...

"Of course I *completely* understand that the President would not want to come and testify. Unlike Hillary Clinton who readily testified *for 10 hours* in the Bengazi hearings, he lacks the courage, stamina, and mental agility to handle the questions, and every day that he is not on the stand will remind America of that. But of course that is fine by the house majority, since it allows us to keep proper control over the proceedings."

Bwahaha

and then either:

1) WILD HORSES COULDN'T KEEP HIM AWAY and he shows up and starts incriminating himself in ten entirely new and original ways till Sunday,

or

2) his base grows disenchanted that he's letting "a little old lady" verbally spank him like that, repeatedly. They can forgive him anything, even cosying up to Putin, but not for being a p***y.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
35. If I was Trump's lawyer I would tackle him, and if necessary ...
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 06:01 PM
Nov 2019

break both of his legs, before allowing him to testify under oath. He is, literally, a pathological liar, and would be unable to avoid perjuring himself multiple times within the first ten minutes of any deposition.

triron

(21,984 posts)
40. I think it was a mistake to suggest Trump could do it in writing.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:55 AM
Nov 2019

Look how that turned out for Mueller.

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