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Archae

(46,314 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:39 AM Nov 2019

Florida Man goes to court!

Talk about a dumbass...

Vegan man sues Burger King claiming meatless burger is cooked on same grill as meat

CNN —
A man is suing Burger King because the meatless Impossible Whopper is cooked on the same grill as meat products, the lawsuit alleges.
The class action lawsuit, filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida, claims that although the burger chain advertises its vegan option as meat-free, it is contaminated by meat by-product because it's cooked on the same grill as meat products.

https://www.wisn.com/article/vegan-man-sues-burger-king-claiming-meatless-burger-is-cooked-on-same-grill-as-meat/29839098

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Florida Man goes to court! (Original Post) Archae Nov 2019 OP
Oh, for pete's sake! MineralMan Nov 2019 #1
BK asks if you want it grilled or microwaved underpants Nov 2019 #2
I suppose if you don't want it grilled on the same flattop where other MineralMan Nov 2019 #3
I find it hilarious that a vegan would go to a burger joint for a fake burger. However, I do not... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #5
Well, so do I, really. A vegan "burger" seems like a contradiction in terms to me. MineralMan Nov 2019 #6
This is one of the reasons people can't stand some vegans. Archae Nov 2019 #8
I don't retain friends who are evangelistic zealots about anything, really. MineralMan Nov 2019 #10
That's why I said "some." Archae Nov 2019 #13
Exactly. MineralMan Nov 2019 #15
My second one was with a vegetarian underpants Nov 2019 #12
Well, not everyone is a purist about such things. MineralMan Nov 2019 #14
Not sure you can microwave an Impossible Whopper. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #4
It is impossible that I shall ever eat an Impossible Whopper. MineralMan Nov 2019 #7
I tried it. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #9
I enjoy the occasional burger, but a burger has a beef patty. MineralMan Nov 2019 #11
It's not like a "veggie burger". Not at all. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #16
And yet, it is not beef. Therefore, it is not a burger at all. MineralMan Nov 2019 #17
Beef is unsustainable. Plant based food is less so. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #18
No doubt you're correct. It takes a lot of plants to make beef. MineralMan Nov 2019 #19
Like I said, I eat lots of chicken. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #21
Burger King is heavily advertising its Impossible Whopper gratuitous Nov 2019 #20

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
1. Oh, for pete's sake!
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:43 AM
Nov 2019

If that is an issue for that individual, I would recommend choosing a different restaurant. Really, for all meals in restaurants. If there is a flattop grill in pretty much any restaurant, your vegan burger is going to be grilled on it. They're not going to install a separate flattop for vegan burgers. Patronize vegan restaurants, instead.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
2. BK asks if you want it grilled or microwaved
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:46 AM
Nov 2019

I’ve had two of these at different BK’s, both asked how I wanted it cooked.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
3. I suppose if you don't want it grilled on the same flattop where other
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:51 AM
Nov 2019

burgers are grilled, you should have it nuked.

It's a shruggable thing as far as I'm concerned. If one's veganism is based on philosophy regarding eating animals, it would seem to me that avoiding restaurants that primarily serve meat-based food would be the philosophical best choice.

Of course, I also think that meat imitations are a philosophical problem in such a situation, anyhow.

Disclaimer: I am not a vegan. I have, however, prepared hundreds of meals for vegans. I do not use meat imitations when I do. I prepare vegan meals that are vegan meals on their own merits.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. I find it hilarious that a vegan would go to a burger joint for a fake burger. However, I do not...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Nov 2019

find it at all amusing that people constantly reinvent dietary rules.

I accepted admonishment last year for letting turkey juices spill into egg and cheese free spanikopita, but will never accept that they should not be on the same table. Even religious rules I am aware of allow for mistakes.

I remember with horror some Manhattan neighborhoods where if you held a dinner party for 10, at least 8 would have some dietary preference that must be adhered to.

I get that peanut allergies are serious, but if you dare mention gluten, find the door-- fast.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. Well, so do I, really. A vegan "burger" seems like a contradiction in terms to me.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Nov 2019

I confess that I have made such vegan patties from time to time. I have a really good scratch-made recipe that I developed for my vegan friends. However, I'd rather make some other sort of meal for them if they come to my house.

I do inquire as to dietary preferences, even with long-time friends. People seem to change them on whim. I try not to have mixed dietary preference groups over for meals. The gluten-free crowd can conflict with the vegan crowd and make my planning more complex.

There is one person I know and love, though, who has such a narrow range of things that can be eaten that any meals shared with her are always at a restaurant of her choice. I can eat anywhere. She can eat almost nowhere. I don't cook for that friend.

Archae

(46,314 posts)
8. This is one of the reasons people can't stand some vegans.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:29 PM
Nov 2019

They are zealots, and evangelistic.

From the description, the guy suing sounds like he wants to turn Burger King totally vegan.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
10. I don't retain friends who are evangelistic zealots about anything, really.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Nov 2019

I don't find such people to be good company.

Archae

(46,314 posts)
13. That's why I said "some."
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:37 PM
Nov 2019

Years ago, a militant vegan tried to close down a meat market here in Sheboygan.

He used videos that were literally decades old, taken at slaughterhouses that were busted and no longer in business, for cruelty to animals.

These are the sort of evangelists that bother people like me.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
15. Exactly.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:38 PM
Nov 2019

I have vegan friends. I have prepared many meals for them. I'm pretty good in the kitchen, so they're happy to eat at my place. I do not retain a separate set of cookware, however, for vegan cooking. Nor for kosher cooking, which I can also do. That's going too far. I wash my cookware thoroughly, I promise.

underpants

(182,736 posts)
12. My second one was with a vegetarian
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:35 PM
Nov 2019

She had it grilled. Didn’t have a problem with it sharing the same grill.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
4. Not sure you can microwave an Impossible Whopper.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:58 AM
Nov 2019

They do sell a veggie burger as well that is microwaveable.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
11. I enjoy the occasional burger, but a burger has a beef patty.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:34 PM
Nov 2019

Anything else is a sandwich. I'm never tempted by food that pretends to be other food. I'll eat the original, thanks.

Which is not to say that a vegan or vegetarian sandwich might not be an excellent choice. If it is called a "burger," though, I'll not be ordering it. I know what a "burger" is. If I order one, I expect it to be a "burger."

That said, I don't eat a lot of them, and have not been in a BK for a very long time.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
16. It's not like a "veggie burger". Not at all.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

It looks like beef, has a beef-like texture, and tastes like beef. It's a science burger.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
17. And yet, it is not beef. Therefore, it is not a burger at all.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:04 PM
Nov 2019

It is a sandwich made with a filling that was engineered to look like beef, taste something like beef, and even leaks reddish fluid.

It is not a burger, all the same.

BTW, when I mention beef, I refer to the muscular and fat tissues of the bos line of animals, which can include bison and other members of that family.

What the Impossible Whopper is a sandwich that contains a filling that simulates a beef patty. Why would I eat such a thing? I have looked at the ingredients in that patty. Blech! Heme? Hmm...

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
18. Beef is unsustainable. Plant based food is less so.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:37 PM
Nov 2019

I don't eat a lot of beef these days, regardless. Chicken, mostly. But my wife and I regularly do a meatless Monday, so instead of a tofu stir fry, or a salad loaded with legumes, we'll do a plant-based meat meal. I've done meatloaf, meatballs, tacos, and burgers with plant-based meats.
I'm cool with lab-made food, though.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
19. No doubt you're correct. It takes a lot of plants to make beef.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:41 PM
Nov 2019

I almost never buy beef. It has become too costly to make sense. However, I'm a habitual omnivore, and eat animal flesh, along with everything else. Humans have been doing that, as a species, since we evolved.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
21. Like I said, I eat lots of chicken.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 03:56 PM
Nov 2019

And you're right. Beef is way too costly. Chuck roast, which used to be one of the cheapest cuts, was $6.49/lb the other day. It was the first time I had used beef in a few months (was making some BBQ beef for sandwiches in my pressure cooker), and it cost me $14 for a 2# roast that used to cost around $8 a few months back.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Burger King is heavily advertising its Impossible Whopper
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:47 PM
Nov 2019

So, yeah, it is kind of their responsibility to keep their food uncontaminated. Heck, my wife and I hosted a picnic for an LGBTQ group we were in several years ago. Some people insisted on vegetarian options. No problem. We had one grill for meat products and a smaller one for veggie or tofurky dogs and burgers. Two sets of utensils. Everyone was happy. If a couple of small-timers putting on a rinky dink picnic in the park can do it, surely a large going concern like Burger King can do it.

Somebody at corporate didn't think this ad campaign through.

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