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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:53 AM Nov 2019

Vegan man sues Burger King claiming meatless burger is cooked on same grill as meat

A man is suing Burger King because the meatless Impossible Whopper is cooked on the same grill as meat products, the lawsuit alleges. The class action lawsuit, filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida, claims that although the burger chain advertises its vegan option as meat-free, it is contaminated by meat by-product because it's cooked on the same grill as meat products.

The suit accuses Burger King of false advertising and benefiting monetarily from offering a vegan option that is not in fact vegan. Burger King declined to comment to several media outlets. CNN's sister network HLN has reached out to Burger King for a response to the allegations in the lawsuit but has not yet heard back.

The class action lawsuit, filed Monday in the Southern District of Florida, claims that although the burger chain advertises its vegan option as meat-free, it is contaminated by meat by-product because it's cooked on the same grill as meat products. The suit accuses Burger King of false advertising and benefiting monetarily from offering a vegan option that is not in fact vegan.

Phillip Williams, the plaintiff in the case, is a vegan who does not eat or drink anything that uses animal by-products. Williams "suffered monetary damages in the amount that he paid for the purchase" the Impossible Whopper, according to the suit.

https://www.koat.com/article/vegan-man-sues-burger-king-claiming-meatless-burger-is-cooked-on-same-grill-as-meat/29839098

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Vegan man sues Burger King claiming meatless burger is cooked on same grill as meat (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 OP
There are a few vegans who do stupid crap and it always goes viral Just about everyone mucifer Nov 2019 #1
"Just about everyone in the vegan community is against the lawsuit." left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #3
people I talk with message boards etc. People are upset about the lawsuit existing mucifer Nov 2019 #4
would seem like an issue most vegans would be on top of. mopinko Nov 2019 #6
Yes, I for example just don't go to burger king and buy it. That said I am glad it exists and less mucifer Nov 2019 #8
Exactly. Jirel Nov 2019 #18
They disclose that, however jberryhill Nov 2019 #2
That was never a secret Bettie Nov 2019 #5
People who have nothing else going on in their lives do this stuff. beachbumbob Nov 2019 #7
Or the surfaces on which it's prepped. Jirel Nov 2019 #19
this behavior, to me, smacks of a sense of entitlement. beachbumbob Nov 2019 #21
FDA Says Vegan Mayonnaise Can't Be Called Mayo Celerity Nov 2019 #24
Here's your five bucks back. RhodeIslandOne Nov 2019 #9
A person who is opposed to eating meat probably shouldn't eat at a place The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #10
this is also what I think IcyPeas Nov 2019 #13
They offer an option where it's not cooked on the same grill. Jirel Nov 2019 #20
so obvious right? beachbumbob Nov 2019 #22
Come on, dude. Codeine Nov 2019 #11
That's what he thinks Cartoonist Nov 2019 #12
He's got a point. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #14
I'm pretty sure it is disclosed. Ms. Toad Nov 2019 #17
I had an Impossible Burger Mendocino Nov 2019 #15
Same at Caarl's Jr. tishaLA Nov 2019 #26
I won't eat anything cross contaminated by human contact. I'm a strict non-cannibal! Beakybird Nov 2019 #16
Stupid is stupid. NT TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #23
If one is worried about cross contamination, the prudent thing to do would be to ask first. Kaleva Nov 2019 #25
Clearly I'm in the minority, but I can see why a vegan would be genuinely distressed renate Nov 2019 #27

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
1. There are a few vegans who do stupid crap and it always goes viral Just about everyone
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:55 AM
Nov 2019

in the vegan community is against the lawsuit.

Just want you guys to know that.

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
8. Yes, I for example just don't go to burger king and buy it. That said I am glad it exists and less
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:05 PM
Nov 2019

cows are eaten. Lots of vegans ask them to cook it in the microwave which burger king will do.
Other vegans don't care about the cross contamination knowing they ordered an animal free burger.

Jirel

(2,014 posts)
18. Exactly.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:52 PM
Nov 2019

I'm an omnivore. I tend to eat vegetarian a lot, though, because it makes sense and it's yummy. Idiots like this guy are making it harder to get meatless options, and give people less incentive to ever give them a try.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
7. People who have nothing else going on in their lives do this stuff.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:01 PM
Nov 2019

Surprise this person doesn't include the freezer or refrigerator the patties co-habitat in.

Jirel

(2,014 posts)
19. Or the surfaces on which it's prepped.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:53 PM
Nov 2019

Not to mention the same people are handling the various patties, the mayo isn't vegan, etc.

Celerity

(43,136 posts)
24. FDA Says Vegan Mayonnaise Can't Be Called Mayo
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:59 PM
Nov 2019
https://time.com/4009893/hampton-creek-just-mayo-vegan-egg/

AUGUST 25, 2015

Vegan mayonnaise—which by definition doesn’t contain eggs—can’t be marketed as mayonnaise, according to the Food and Drug Administration. Hampton Creek Foods, Inc., a health foods company whose best known product is a vegan, egg-free mayonnaise called Just Mayo, was sent a warning letter from the FDA on Aug. 12.

“According to the standard of identity for mayonnaise, egg is a required ingredient,” said the letter, which was released Tuesday and was signed by William A. Cornell, Jr., the FDA’s director of the office of compliance. “[H]owever, based on the ingredient information on the labels, these products do not contain eggs. We also note that these products contain additional ingredients that are not permitted by the standard, such as modified food starch, pea protein, and beta-carotene, which may be used to impart color simulating egg yolk. Therefore, these products do not conform to the standard for mayonnaise.”

The FDA requires that a product calling itself “mayonnaise” contain at least 65% vegetable oil and have one or more “egg yolk-containing” ingredients. The “egg” of Hampton Creek’s Just Mayo—and Just Mayo Sriracha, which was also cited in the warning letter—is actually a byproduct of Canadian yellow pea and has fast become a popular product on grocery store shelves across the country, TIME reported last year. The company boasts investors that read like the who’s who of the tech world: Bill Gates, Peter Theil and Vinod Khosla all back the San Francisco-based company.

But in November 2014, Unilever—which owns Hellmann’s Real Mayonnaise—filed a lawsuit against Hampton Creek, arguing the lack of eggs in its Just Mayo disqualifies the product from being classified as a mayonnaise. Unilever dropped the suit less than a month later, with a company spokesperson saying in a statement, “We believe Hampton Creek will take the appropriate steps in labeling its products going forward.”

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,613 posts)
10. A person who is opposed to eating meat probably shouldn't eat at a place
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:07 PM
Nov 2019

that mostly specializes in meat. Isn't he aiding and abetting the consumption of meat by buying something from a vendor of meat, even if he doesn't buy meat himself?

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
13. this is also what I think
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:34 PM
Nov 2019

I am a vegetarian (not a vegan) but I never ever step foot in a fast forward place. Even in other restaurants that offer veggie burger on the menu, I always assume it's cooked on the same grill as regular burgers.

So I both get the guy's message about vegan burgers being cooked on the same grill, and that he shouldn't be in a Burger King if he is a vegan. So I think the lawsuit is wrong. and maybe burger king should have an asterisk on the veggie burger that it's cooked on the same grill (just to avoid confusion)

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Jirel

(2,014 posts)
20. They offer an option where it's not cooked on the same grill.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:54 PM
Nov 2019

It's probably a microwave, but there it is. Either way, prep surfaces, handling, etc. are all going to "contaminate" the veggie patty to some degree.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. Come on, dude.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:07 PM
Nov 2019

Don’t fuck shit up for the rest of us who just want a vegan fast food option. I hope this guy gets nothing and then has to pay court fees.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
12. That's what he thinks
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:16 PM
Nov 2019

Phillip Williams, the plaintiff in the case, is a vegan who does not eat or drink anything that uses animal by-products.
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Everytime he drinks a glass of water he is consuming millions of microscopic animals.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
14. He's got a point.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

They wouldn't offer a kosher option cooked on a non-kosher grill.

BK probably didn't think this all the way through; should have had some disclaimers on the menu. "Beyond Meat burgers may contain (little crumbly carbonized bits of) meat".

Ms. Toad

(34,001 posts)
17. I'm pretty sure it is disclosed.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

My recollection is that they even offered advice about how to avoid that contamination (although I can't find it now - since this lawsuit is all that comes up for pages and pages).

Mendocino

(7,482 posts)
15. I had an Impossible Burger
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Nov 2019

at BK once. They offer to cook in a microwave rather than a broiler and you can get out without mayo.

renate

(13,776 posts)
27. Clearly I'm in the minority, but I can see why a vegan would be genuinely distressed
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 02:08 PM
Nov 2019

I’m a vegetarian but not a vegan; I would prefer that it not be cooked on the same grill as meat, but it’s no big deal.

But there are people who are honestly repelled by the idea of eating bits of flesh and fat from a dead animal. If it’s not clear that cross contamination is possible, Burger King really should address that. Not to mention that people of certain religious faiths aren’t supposed to consume beef or any animal flesh. It’s not a trivial concern.

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