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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 20 THREAD 6***
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crickets
(25,959 posts)sheshe2
(83,718 posts)Thanks, crickets.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,313 posts)Don't be kickin' crickets. Bad luck.
sheshe2
(83,718 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Expected to be a two hour questioning period.
malaise
(268,885 posts)again
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)He is still reviewing the transcript. Schiff saying that the REAL OMB appointees REFUSED to testify.
madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)but available soon. Vought and Duffy - higher ups at OMB - have been called to testify and have refused to show up.
corrected sp
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Ratlick harping on the GS testimony that trump did not explicitly condition the ask and aid withholding
Siwsan
(26,257 posts)Just a theory.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)WTF? Both Drumpf an Sondland were never in the government and refuse to learn anything about government "ethics".
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)fully transcribed by several intelligence agencies, including our own. There will be a transcript eventually. So! What, again, did the president say he didn't give a fig about wrt Ukraine?
eta - did Sondland just get caught in a lie?
Rustynaerduwell
(663 posts)Everybody around him: "4".
Sondland: "I never heard the President say '4'"
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)"You cant handle tge truth!" And just lay it ALL out.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Lol....he'll get yielded to again.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)sheshe2
(83,718 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Never did
But wont go into why not. Because whistleblower report came out
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hate this fucker
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,879 posts)essme
(1,207 posts)He sounds like a deranged middle school coach
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)pandr32
(11,574 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)The Figment
(494 posts)demmiblue
(36,838 posts)MuseRider
(34,104 posts)a bit high pitched and he is one of those guys who will blow out a bunch of nonsense and the look at the person with that odd challenge to be smarter than he is and be able to answer. He is such a fucking nothing, they all look and talk like that when they are fucking nothings.
Loud, annoying comment......long, direct stare with a slight smile, one of satisfaction because he thinks he always gets them.
Bayard
(22,038 posts)sheshe2
(83,718 posts)Siwsan
(26,257 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)A lot of them are con artists, too.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)He just directly quoted it.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Im innocent. I didnt do nuthin
Like a criminal would ever admit they did anything wrong??
Get trump under oath and lets see what he says
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Actually hollered, or rather quacked, by Gym.
gristy
(10,667 posts)Gym Jordan. OMFG.
Every one of these guys are working on the 2020 senate election. That is the only thing that's going on. They are giving cover to every one of the clueless republican voters to vote for their republican.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)between what he was willing to say in his opening statement vs in his testimony.
eta also pointing out that TAYLOR was the amb Ukraine and Sondand EU, so why was Taylor out of the loop if they were all using official channels? Oh, and what about Rudy? She is going after him.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Bypassing the Ambassador (and her replacement Taylor) of Ukraine when it comes to decision making.
Sondland knows they were doing bullshit stuff but he is carefully weaseling around to try to justify not perjuring himself.
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Rustynaerduwell
(663 posts)It's like he had the same piece of paper in front of him that Trump was holding.
madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)Everything he says is begins with "I have never seen anything like it......."
Well, he just spent a lot of time saying nothing.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)at what point did you realize the ask and the aid were conditioned by the president despite him not saying so explicitly?
crickets
(25,959 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)I think not. Sondland is evasive when it suits him to be.
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Mersky
(4,980 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)"If it was center lane then why didn't Ambassodor Taylor know what was happening?"
madaboutharry will answer for Ambassador Sondland: "Because we did it all behind his back!"
gademocrat7
(10,653 posts)His screaming is ridiculous.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Sondland told him that Taylor was calling them out and asked "What the fuck do you want?"- trupf did the "wrong number, wrong number, phoney phone call!" and hung up.
Sondland is lying.
my 2 cents...
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Saying he disagreed with yesterdays testimony that aid was not conditioned
elleng
(130,858 posts)but people will be so CONFUSED, according to turner.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Sondland wont give him that walk back
Saying it was his presumption
Edit. Oh. GS just gave him the yes. But saying it was his presumption
crickets
(25,959 posts)Which means maybe he just got Sondland to perjure himself outright instead of just weasel.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)at what point did you realize the ask and the aid were conditioned by the president despite him not saying so explicitly?
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)but I think coming back around to it might be useful. Will have to see the transcript later because there was a reason why the headlines went flying everywhere.
elleng
(130,858 posts)but sticking to his 'guns,' "it was MY PRESUMPTION."
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)elleng
(130,858 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)mucifer
(23,522 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)oh my!
Turner now trying to beat him up.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Quite a few more times. I hope I'm wrong.
I think he dined on some choice words over the lunch break.
crickets
(25,959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)or a quid pro quo in order for there to be evidence of it
mucifer
(23,522 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Two days before the aid was lifted the news went public that congress was investigating
crickets
(25,959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Maybe trying to push CT that Ukraine was involved in 2016 election
Says hes interested in facts. LMAO
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)The republican argument is that the President of The United States is incompetent and not in control of the government. They are arguing that Rudy Giuliani was running a rogue government behind Trump's back.
It is just ridiculous.
crickets
(25,959 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)I swear I would
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)"Failed Clinton Coup."
polichick
(37,152 posts)without spelling things out himself. He does have a few skills.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Thats America. Free expression / speech
madaboutharry
(40,203 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Where was his outrage at the threats and career loss to Amb. Yovanovitch?
mucifer
(23,522 posts)Response to crickets (Original post)
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nolabear
(41,959 posts)Response to crickets (Original post)
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crickets
(25,959 posts)Pachamama
(16,886 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Speier!!
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)"The President has "5 Pinocchios" on a daily basis!" (to applause)
2naSalit
(86,509 posts)Brought up Cohen's statement on "code".
shanti
(21,675 posts)elleng
(130,858 posts)backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Applause and laughter in room
Roland99
(53,342 posts)On docs held up by pompeo
Roland99
(53,342 posts)GS: it could be looked at that way. Yes
dustyscamp
(2,223 posts)oasis
(49,370 posts)from those present in the hearing room.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)and Schiff just corrected him on who was "refusing to testify".
crickets
(25,959 posts)Siwsan
(26,257 posts)That's just not coming across as a normal, healthy skin tone.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)sitting over his right shoulder..yup BP....l