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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:00 AM Nov 2019

Don't quit now, Democrats

Don't quit now, Democrats: Wrapping up impeachment early is the dumbest idea ever
Pence, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Bolton and numerous others were clearly involved. What's the point of stopping now?
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/22/dont-quit-now-democrats-wrapping-up-impeachment-early-is-the-dumbest-idea-ever/

Over the past two weeks of marathon testimony in the House impeachment inquiry, it can no longer be disputed that President Trump, his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and members of his administration engaged in a plot to bribe or extort Ukraine into helping the president smear his domestic political opponents. Witness after witness testified to what they saw and the conclusion was inescapable: The president broke the law and abused his power.

This is not really a big surprise, though, is it? After all, we saw the evidence first hand when Trump released that transcript of the call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The problem has been that he boldly declared his criminal behavior "perfect." That was so disconcerting and bizarre that it became necessary to reconstruct the events that preceded and followed the call in order to reassure the public that what they saw with their own eyes was actually true.

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The Mueller investigation took two years and uncovered massive evidence of obstruction of justice. The Republicans had 10 investigations into the Benghazi attack over the course of three years. The Republican National Convention even featured a Benghazi night! House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy admitted they had done it all for political purposes to damage Hillary Clinton in the election — and it worked. In the course of one of those investigations, it was discovered that Clinton had used a personal email server for non-classified State Department business. I don't think I need to tell you how that affected the campaign in 2016.

So it seems counterproductive for the Democrats to be so anxious to close this impeachment inquiry when we now know that the highest levels of the administration were involved. Without hearing from Giuliani, John Bolton, Mick Mulvaney and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (who reportedly wants to resign because this scandal is damaging his reputation) — all of whom have been heavily implicated, and all of whom appear to have further political ambitions — this case doesn't accurately convey what happened and continues to happen in this White House. You'd think they'd at least want to hear from Rudy Giuliani's accomplice Lev Parnas, who has signaled a willingness to talk. Who knows what he might have to say?

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Don't quit now, Democrats (Original Post) dajoki Nov 2019 OP
Forget the dead to rights "narrow focus" of Ukrain and go for broke with the whole enchilada. world wide wally Nov 2019 #1
Who said they were stopping? TwilightZone Nov 2019 #2

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
1. Forget the dead to rights "narrow focus" of Ukrain and go for broke with the whole enchilada.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:24 AM
Nov 2019

We still have a year to enumerate his crimes. (Plus his crimes yet to come).

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
2. Who said they were stopping?
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 12:03 PM
Nov 2019

Seems Salon is arguing something that hasn't happened. What a surprise.

The House Dems have already signaled that there will likely be Mueller-related hearings.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142399072

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