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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 02:14 PM Nov 2019

Trump's GOP defenders cannot be shamed. It's time to try this instead.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/22/trumps-gop-defenders-cannot-be-shamed-its-time-democrats-try-this-instead/

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It’s time to drop the posture that Trump’s defenders can be shamed into accepting what has been unearthed, or that they can be shamed into arguing from a baseline of shared democratic values, or into arguing over how to interpret a comprehensive set of shared facts.

Instead, let’s rhetorically treat Trump’s defenders as his criminal accomplices. Not just as “enablers” of Trump’s corruption but as active participants in it.

Once this is accepted, it becomes obvious why they can’t be “won over,” because they are actively engaged in keeping the corruption in question from getting fully uncovered, in the belief that they, too, benefit from it, and that they, too, lose out if it’s exposed.

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Trump's GOP defenders cannot be shamed. It's time to try this instead. (Original Post) dajoki Nov 2019 OP
They're up to their elbows in kompromat & rubles. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #1
It's a good argument, because it's true. Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #2
GOP Trump conspirators displacedtexan Nov 2019 #3
That is what they are doing to the Dems...treating them all like enemies of the state... cbdo2007 Nov 2019 #4
GOP is both a cult and a collection of power addicts Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #5
That's part of what I was getting at here: Garrett78 Nov 2019 #6
Thank you. Your post there is terrific. Everyone should read it. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #7
That's been how I think of them since he came down that escalator. BSdetect Nov 2019 #8
for sure. ramen Nov 2019 #9
If you can't win people over... FiveGoodMen Nov 2019 #10
Cut Republicans out of your life BernieBabies Nov 2019 #11
This is the closest they've come to accomplishing their wet dream of... lame54 Nov 2019 #12
K&R, Find all connections between those senators and Russian money !!! uponit7771 Nov 2019 #13
**Rublonic plague** lastlib Nov 2019 #14
 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
2. It's a good argument, because it's true.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:14 PM
Nov 2019

Republicans have gotten a great deal of money from russian super pacs.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
4. That is what they are doing to the Dems...treating them all like enemies of the state...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:27 PM
Nov 2019

so that's true, we should be doing the same.

I think once they start calling Senate and House Reps to testify in the Impeachment trial, things will start turning.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
5. GOP is both a cult and a collection of power addicts
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:28 PM
Nov 2019

The obscenely rich include power addicts who are not really concerned about democracy, except in how it interferes with their accumulation of wealth and power. The cult is a means of keeping that power. Elected GOP is caught between, but the gang now in office is the result of culling by the billionaires' club and the cult.

The GOP hasn't been sending us their best in a couple of generations.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. That's part of what I was getting at here:
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:29 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212719011

It does a disservice to deny just how corrupt and, frankly, evil the Republican Party is. For cryin' out loud, they are fine with deporting and, thus, killing sick children.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
10. If you can't win people over...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:03 PM
Nov 2019

Then either you knuckle under or else you have to beat them.

And 'beating' them in this or that election doesn't really stop their fascist attack on the world.

We understood the situation in the 40's.

 

BernieBabies

(78 posts)
11. Cut Republicans out of your life
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:31 PM
Nov 2019

The voters are also accomplices. Arguing with them is futile. It's best to figure out how to get them out of your life. Eliminate or shorten visits. Cut off communication. It's hard when others are involved, but I think being isolated may help them see themselves better, eventually.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
12. This is the closest they've come to accomplishing their wet dream of...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 05:35 PM
Nov 2019

a complete takeover of the U.S.A.

they are soooo close - stay the course

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