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TCM hosting Dennis Miller? Really? Yes. (Original Post) Miigwech Nov 2019 OP
He always had Nature Man Nov 2019 #1
Punch or not, his face should never be on TCM Miigwech Nov 2019 #2
My cable took TCM off... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #3
hey... he could always have victoria jackson to co-host - n/t lapfog_1 Nov 2019 #4
lol Miigwech Nov 2019 #5
I would hope that he would keep his show nonpolitical Poiuyt Nov 2019 #6
I find it disgusting too... wcmagumba Nov 2019 #7
I was surprised by the "friends" who came on to chit-chat with Miller. sop Nov 2019 #8
So don't watch it.Problem solved. virgogal Nov 2019 #9
Oddly enough I watched Liberty Valance last night and didn't notice who the host was. On second dameatball Nov 2019 #10
No guest last night. They played John Ford movies, all great PSPS Nov 2019 #14
Glad I wasn't imagining things. I always loved the...what...?...cinematography?...in "The Searchers. dameatball Nov 2019 #16
Yes. Ford loved Monument Valley and always gave lots of work to the Navajos there. PSPS Nov 2019 #21
Never cared for John Ford he was extremely antisemitic rockfordfile Nov 2019 #20
Don't know about that but he made good movies. PSPS Nov 2019 #25
Ford was a grumpy old curmudgeon. lpbk2713 Nov 2019 #26
Clean the house. Cook a healthy meal. Check on your mom. LuvNewcastle Nov 2019 #11
Pisses me off too. Won't watch. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #12
Old People Channel picks conservative host... story at 11. :p NCLefty Nov 2019 #13
"Old People Channel" PSPS Nov 2019 #19
END CANCEL CULTURE. philly_bob Nov 2019 #15
Wrong we can use our voices to battle those we disagree with. Joe941 Nov 2019 #23
To battle them, NOT to silence them. philly_bob Nov 2019 #33
We can silence them if we have enough voices! Joe941 Nov 2019 #35
I don't want to silence dissenting voices. philly_bob Nov 2019 #36
To be fair to TCM, Ben Mankiewickz was once a host on TYT TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #27
nonsense Skittles Nov 2019 #28
Comparing, not equating. Coming to much the same conclusion as you do, Skittles, philly_bob Nov 2019 #32
they are in no way to be compared to the fascist asshole Miller Skittles Nov 2019 #34
Dictionary: "Compare": Note similarities and differences between two things philly_bob Nov 2019 #37
OK Skittles Nov 2019 #38
He was smart once. Corgigal Nov 2019 #17
He doesn't do politics on TCM PSPS Nov 2019 #18
I guess that this is all that is left of his career. Marie Marie Nov 2019 #22
Unless he got funny lately lunatica Nov 2019 #24
That's along way from Robert Osborne who I miss. appalachiablue Nov 2019 #29
Holy shit! Digger Nov 2019 #30
Remember Monday Night Football on ABC?? path97 Nov 2019 #31

wcmagumba

(2,881 posts)
7. I find it disgusting too...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:15 PM
Nov 2019

He has apparently been hosting off and on for a few years, some special series here and there....I'll still watch the movie if it interests me but not his segments. Here's a link showing him guest hosting as far back as 2009 https://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2009/08/21/Dennis-Miller-named-TCM-guest-programmer/87251250890771/ ...yuk... I've been trying out the Criterion Channel...kind of pricey at $11 monthly but they have a couple of thousand classic movies, often with extra features on demand...gets me some of the classic movie fix I need...

dameatball

(7,392 posts)
10. Oddly enough I watched Liberty Valance last night and didn't notice who the host was. On second
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:19 PM
Nov 2019

thought maybe I was on a different channel. I was enjoying the movie and wondering how my dog can catch potato chips in the dark, so it isn't my fault.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
14. No guest last night. They played John Ford movies, all great
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:47 PM
Nov 2019

The Battle of Midway -- A WWII propaganda film entirely by John Ford. What more does one need?
Liberty Valance -- Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne and Lee Marvin. What more does one need?
Grapes of Wrath -- Henry Fonda, cinematography by the renowned Gregg Toland. What more does one need?
The Searchers -- John Wayne, Jeffrey Hunter, Vera Miles, Ward Bond. What more does one need?
Cheyenne Autumn -- Richard Widmark, Carroll Baker and Karl Malden. (Ford's last film.) What more does one need?

The last two above were shot in Monument Valley. What more does one need?

They sure don't make directors like Ford anymore.

dameatball

(7,392 posts)
16. Glad I wasn't imagining things. I always loved the...what...?...cinematography?...in "The Searchers.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:53 PM
Nov 2019

Was that Monument Valley?

rockfordfile

(8,695 posts)
20. Never cared for John Ford he was extremely antisemitic
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:21 PM
Nov 2019

Lauren Bacall had some interesting story about him in the past.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
25. Don't know about that but he made good movies.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:30 PM
Nov 2019

Speaking of Rockford Files:

ROCKY: Had Dinner?
JIM: Now that you mentioned it, no.
ROCKY: Want to do the lobster?
JIM: At three o'clock in the morning? Everything's closed.
ROCKY: Oh, don't worry. I know a place.
JIM: Yeah? What kind of place?
ROCKY: You'll like it. It's a nice place.
JIM: They got lobster?
ROCKY: Why, sure!
JIM: What kind of lobster?
ROCKY: Lobster lobster.
JIM: Rocky?
ROCKY: Lobster bisque?
JIM: Canned?
ROCKY: Fresh canned.

LOL. Miss those guys.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
19. "Old People Channel"
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:17 PM
Nov 2019

LOL. I suppose you're right that a lot of "old people" watch, but there are plenty of young people too. Their cruises and special events are packed with people of all ages. The channel runs no advertising so there is no demographic measurement of the channel alone.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
15. END CANCEL CULTURE.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:51 PM
Nov 2019

Miller is mean and not funny. Miigwech's call to boycott the show is reasonable.

But Dennis Miller's obnoxious self-satisfied right-wing humor doesn't mean he should be booed off the stage or that the network that gives him a show should be pressured to drop him.

This is something I don't like about post-2000 progressivism. "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist." We have Colbert, John Stewart, etc., so in any one-to-one matchup on humor, the left wins. Be satisfied with that.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
36. I don't want to silence dissenting voices.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:54 PM
Nov 2019

I want to dispute them, make fun of them, marginalize them, shame them, disprove them...

but I don't want to silence them. Because someday you or I may be the dissenting voice.

TheRealNorth

(9,462 posts)
27. To be fair to TCM, Ben Mankiewickz was once a host on TYT
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:34 PM
Nov 2019

And I think he still does some movie-related podcasts for the TYT network.

I don't think this is the same as ESPN giving Rush Limbaugh a seat on Monday Night Football.

Interestingly, it looks like Dennis Miller did some color commentating for MNF for ABC also. I Don't recall any controversies at that time. ESPN also has Keith Olbermann, and Olbermann did Sunday night football for NBC too.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
32. Comparing, not equating. Coming to much the same conclusion as you do, Skittles,
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:04 PM
Nov 2019

Colbert & Stewart are far superior

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
37. Dictionary: "Compare": Note similarities and differences between two things
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:02 PM
Nov 2019

Similarities: English-speaking comedians

Differences: Colbert & Stewart are consistently funny, Miller is rarely funny.

See, you CAN compare them.

As you can see, I sympathize with your point of view.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. He was smart once.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:55 PM
Nov 2019

Really. He had a smart HBO show and it pulled in good ratings.

Then he went nutty. He threw it away.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
18. He doesn't do politics on TCM
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:04 PM
Nov 2019

His segment is called "Dennis Miller & Friends." The "& Friends" part brings on one additional guest to banter with about the movies. I think last week was Martin Short, so they're probably mostly comedians. His selection of movies is mediocre and then they talk about them briefly in between. The banter isn't very cerebral and the humor is forced but not quite cringeworthy. Nevertheless, I think most TCM viewers like me tune in primarily for the movies without regard to who does intros and outros.

There are many exceptions, though. The segments with Ben Mankiewicz and a "guest programmer" are always worthwhile because he will always have someone who is as devoted to movies and the craft of making them as he is. He sometimes has comedians in this role too. Letterman did segments with him for a while that were absolutely fascinating because, in addition to enjoying Letterman's remarkable wit, it revealed how knowledgeable and insightful he is about movies and the stories they tell.

Digger

(478 posts)
30. Holy shit!
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:49 PM
Nov 2019

Talk about a turd in a punch-bowl...damn! Didn't he actually do a short stint on Monday Night Football at one time, or am I crazy? Or both.

path97

(96 posts)
31. Remember Monday Night Football on ABC??
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:31 PM
Nov 2019

This is the clown who's incessant babbling ruined Monday Night football when it was on ABC way back when. The mere sound of his voice makes me vomit in my mouth a bit.

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