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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill the Republicans regain their minds and souls once Trump is gone?
Or will they remain trapped in the Cult of the False Conspiracies forever?
I expect that as long as Fox News and it's ilk continue, they will remain under the spell of reality and morality deniers.
Trump is actually a symptom of the Fox News cult, not the cause.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Huh, who knew.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... they had them before trump. They didnt. They just felt compelled to pretend they did.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)pretend to be "Average Joe". Trump did not convert them into the monsters they are, he just gave them official permission to be the mean assholes they've always been.
RockRaven
(14,782 posts)training from a young age which cripples moral development and critical thinking skills while enhancing in-group thinking and a sick Manichean-Sith mashup worldview... *cough* religion *cough*
That's not going away any faster than FOXNews is going away.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)and take their votes and support.
Turbineguy
(37,206 posts)They'll be looking for a replacement for trump. From the Russian casting studio.
tulipsandroses
(5,090 posts)to their benefit. They know it appeals to a certain audience. Quite sad.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)You need to remember that a lot of the older Reagan humpers became trump humpers. Despite the fact that reagan had them saying "the only good Russian is a dead Russian" to saying what trump tells them to say now: "I would rather live in Russia than be a Democrat in the U.S.A."
To get caught up into that to the extent his true base is at means there is no mind or soul or even heart for that matter.
Skittles
(152,963 posts)they have been morally bankrupt LONG before they created Donald Fucking Trump
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... but they'll put on a damned fine show pretending they have.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and allow you to draw your own conclusions.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212707451
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)At that, he left out the really dirty stuff, sticking to policy positions and not mentioning the corruption that's always fostered when belief in the super rights of those holding the cake cutters and contempt for liberal democracy is in proximity to giant cookie jars.
After all these years of observation, I believe strong conservatives in general (not moderate) are extremely unsuited to power in a liberal democracy such as ours. They don't believe in it and left to themselves would eradicate it.
murielm99
(30,655 posts)McTurtle vowed to make Obama's life miserable and make him a one-term President. He denied him his rightful choice of a Supreme Court justice. They will only continue their meanness if they continue to hold power.
Bad Thoughts
(2,514 posts)Republicans have so thoroughly immersed themselves in propaganda and myths that they cannot see truth.
diane in sf
(3,904 posts)rpannier
(24,304 posts)Why would it change after he's gone
il douche is NOT the problem
The problem is they are a party wedded to power and personal gain no matter what
One only need look at their behavior during Clinton's presidency tyo realize that what they did to Obama was not new
wendyb-NC
(3,250 posts)if a few of the main trumpetts go to jail for a while.
BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,889 posts)Apparently Republicans lost their minds and souls decades ago.
oswaldactedalone
(3,489 posts)I heard everyone of those expressions he notes. The Reputin Party did not learn a thing from Watergate. Instead they built their own propoganda networks, doubled down on corruption, and added to their smear campaign techniques. Watergate led the Reputin Party to the ledge and they have long since gone over it, crashing their wagon and now the rest of the country along with it.
retread
(3,752 posts)JHB
(37,128 posts)Brazenness, doubling down, and ratcheting up has worked for them for 40 years. They can accept occasional losses as long as they are in a position to grab the wheel back.
The only thing that will get the to stop that pattern is for it to fail repeatedly.
Captain Stern
(2,195 posts)If any real republicans still exist, they are really quiet. I suspect they call themselves 'Independents' now.
I actually miss Republicans.
The ones I knew weren't bad people. When I spoke with them, we looked at the facts, and then we argued about the best course of action our government should take, based on the facts.
Of course, their ideas about what we should do were different than mine......but we at least agreed about what the actual, measurable, facts were.
But nowadays (ok, Boomer) when I try to speak to someone that calls themselves a republican we can't even get to the point where we agree on what the facts are. "Stock market was terrible under Obama" ...."Unemployment went up under Obama"...."Mueller report exonerated trump"
I don't think that was caused by Fox News. I think Fox News capitalized on something that was always there.
edhopper
(33,164 posts)They haven't had a mind or soul since before Reagan.
oasis
(49,150 posts)maxrandb
(15,187 posts)PJMcK
(21,916 posts)I'm in my 60s. Eisenhower was president when I was born and he was the last honorable Republican president.
1968 - Nixon
1980 - Reagan
1988 - Bush I
2000 - Bush II
2016 - Trump
Every one of them committed criminal acts as president.
Of course they're not going to change! It's in their DNA.
doc03
(35,143 posts)First thing if he gets re-elected they will do away with the term limits for the president.
Bettie
(15,995 posts)to retain office we'll never have another election, at least at the presidential level.
doc03
(35,143 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Bettie
(15,995 posts)They will try to put on their masks of fake civility and demand that they be treated as if they are decent human beings.
We can't let them get away with it. There are no reasonable Republicans anymore. None. Zero.
Hotler
(11,353 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)And that's the 1990's. The only difference is that now they're a little more brazen about their racism and criminality, but it was always there.
So to answer your question...no. They will not. The hope at this point is that changing demographics will finish them off before they can finish the planet off.
JCMach1
(27,544 posts)Volaris
(10,260 posts)The 'elected, establishment' Republicans will behave themselves for a congressional term, but the Base will continue to be just as looney toons as ever, with the addition of being pissed off that they know how dumb it would be to start an actual shooting fight, and as a result will nominate someone worse than trump (only better at PR .. like a Ted Cruz)
and then the elected republicans will go right back to being treasonweasels. Because they're not capable of learning enough from this experience to tell the base to go fuck themselves.
Initech
(99,909 posts)If anything things will get worse. That's the sad reality.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)This is the party that has systematically marginalized women, has debased minorities trampled on their rights to vote among many others, have whored themselves out to the uber rich and much much more! There is no going back to sane-ness because they havent been for a very long time if ever.
Trump is the result of the disease.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)But a new moderately conservative party will form to take its place and edge these wackos to the extreme fringes of society.