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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:39 PM Nov 2019

If Trump is not convicted, I fear he will go on an election fraud frenzy.

There will be nothing to stop him. Election fraud will be legal. It may be impossible for the Democrats to win the election.

If not convicted, I fear Trump will go on a vengeance rampage. He, with his disciple from hell Barr will investigate all those who investigated, testified against him. They will make up false investigations in order to destroy them and at the same time gaslight the American people.

The American people are playing a very dangerous game. The question is no longer should Trump be removed. Trump must be removed now. Not doing so is playing with fire.

My parents taught me at a young age not to play with fire, you will get burned. I guess many Americans did not have parents that taught them the simple facts of life.

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If Trump is not convicted, I fear he will go on an election fraud frenzy. (Original Post) shockey80 Nov 2019 OP
Impeached in the House and acquitted of all charges in the Senate will do that Baclava Nov 2019 #1
he also said last week was a great week for him...he's delusional. spanone Nov 2019 #4
Does anyone have DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #9
He may, but I don't think it will be nearly as effective as it was in 2016. The voters now KNOW napi21 Nov 2019 #2
Your exactly right. But sorry to say it's not going to happen. The GOP knows it will walkingman Nov 2019 #3
Truer words DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #10
I think we all know what the Senate will do. Firestorm49 Nov 2019 #5
He started that election fraud frenzy in 2016 C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #6
Him? Don't you mean the Republicans? That will happen anyway, Hortensis Nov 2019 #7
It all depends on how corrupt the GOP Senators are Jarqui Nov 2019 #8
The Republican Senators become official traitors by not convicting him. They will be voted out rockfordfile Nov 2019 #11
Actually the R's will likely hold at least until '22 AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #15
I would say they are traitors. Based on the evidence radius777 Nov 2019 #18
He will definitely be emboldened to go where no POTUS has ever gone before *and Barr would help* triron Nov 2019 #12
knr triron Nov 2019 #13
Not to worry. You predicated that if The Repbus don't impeach, this nation will explode... Kaleva Nov 2019 #14
Yep.... AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #16
Nope. Dave Starsky Nov 2019 #20
So you disagree with that the OP predicated back in 2017 then. Kaleva Nov 2019 #21
We have been facing election fraud frenzy since 1968 DFW Nov 2019 #17
Trump's rampages can only help us. radius777 Nov 2019 #19
Trump has been on a vengeance rampage. The thing is, there's no sheriff in town Mike 03 Nov 2019 #22
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
1. Impeached in the House and acquitted of all charges in the Senate will do that
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:46 PM
Nov 2019

'Totally exonerated' .... see, it was a witch hunt just like i told ya'

Yes I can see the ads now

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
9. Does anyone have
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:54 PM
Nov 2019

Does anyone truly believe, despite who ever wins the election we won't face a Republican Tyranny?
If you think these all out corrupt Republicans will just accept a democrat winning, just wait for the day after the election if a Dem is declared winner.........
If they were able to corrupt and win the 2000, 2004, and 2016 election, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Katie Bar The Door.........

The election, won't stop them. Their COUP is nearly complete and they won't back off until it is shoved up every one of our As***. Mark my words.............

If Trump illegally corrupts the voting and wins, they will celebrate.

If the Dems win, the group will declare the Dems corrupted the election, over ride the election and declare Trump the winner. Don't forget, he has the DOJ, Republican Senate, and the Supreme Court to help him.

Then they will also figure out a way to over ride the amendment on a president not serving for more than two terms and they will be off to the races. Next will be repealing the Posse Comatatus act and having the power to establish Martial Law. Etc Etc ETC......

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. He may, but I don't think it will be nearly as effective as it was in 2016. The voters now KNOW
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

what he's like, and they either love him or hate him. I honestly have never met anyone who said "AH, he's OK." Of course al the BS posts on Facebook & Twitter will drive US nuts, but they won't be changing anyone's vote.

walkingman

(7,597 posts)
3. Your exactly right. But sorry to say it's not going to happen. The GOP knows it will
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:48 PM
Nov 2019

spell the end of their party (now the TRUMP party) so no matter what the evidence shows they will deny, spin, and do anything to continue this debacle. I truly fear for our Democracy. Even seeing the last 3 years of devastation to our enviroment, the denigrating of anyone that doesn't support Trump, and even the Religious people embracing probably the most vile person to ever occupy the WH - we are rapidly declining - the economy will come next and then watch out!!

I think this is the most important election in our nations history and be prepared for the GOP to do literally anything to maintain power.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
10. Truer words
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:05 PM
Nov 2019

Truer words never spoken walking man.
It has taken them FORTY YEARS to get to this point. We ain't seen nothing yet compared to what they will be willing to do in the next 12 months to establish the Republican Tyranny. This is their lifetime wet dream about to happen........

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
5. I think we all know what the Senate will do.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:50 PM
Nov 2019

The question becomes, will there be enough damning evidence to convince voters to vote him out. Of course, this entire premise is based on a free democratic election.

We have never been closer to peril.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
6. He started that election fraud frenzy in 2016
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:51 PM
Nov 2019

and it's never stopped. Putin's strategy is to destroy our faith in our own elections, our courts, our government... anything that makes us strong and good.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Him? Don't you mean the Republicans? That will happen anyway,
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019
no matter what happens with Trump.

Faced with the existential need to integrate, the Republican leadership decided to double down on white male power instead and can no longer win national elections without stealing them. In 2020 they're also faced with losing control of states after a long run of taking more every election, coming very close to the 2/3 needed to call a constitutional convention to rewrite the constitution, and what it means to be an American. I'm sure all this is a big part of how they came to make a deal with the devil.



They're desperate and very dangerous right now, but they've been planning for years to steal this election and those plans will go forward, and, who knows, perhaps some emergency contingencies. Remember, on top of everything else that's huge, this is the 10-year census and reapportionment election. And that a majority of the conservative half of the electorate wants them to do what they have to to win (and some few on the left as well).

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
8. It all depends on how corrupt the GOP Senators are
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 03:41 PM
Nov 2019

If they exonerate Trump after such a clear cut case with ample credible witnesses, evidence and logic, then they're compromised with Kompromat as much as Lindsey Graham and Bill Barr are.

That is all it is really going to tell us and what will decide the matter.

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
15. Actually the R's will likely hold at least until '22
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 02:38 AM
Nov 2019

Voting to not convict doesn't make a Senator a "traitor"...a dumbass yes..not a traitor.
2 Democratic House members voted against the Impeachment inquiry...are they "traitors"?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
18. I would say they are traitors. Based on the evidence
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:37 AM
Nov 2019

which is overwhelming between the Mueller probe and the impeachment hearings, it is clear that Trump stole one election and was conspiring to steal another. He's subverting democracy before our very eyes, and anyone who enables that is no patriot.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
14. Not to worry. You predicated that if The Repbus don't impeach, this nation will explode...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 10:26 PM
Nov 2019

and we'll see the largest protests in American history.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
20. Nope.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 08:08 AM
Nov 2019

As long as a new episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians is on the air, you won't be able to pull your average American away from his or her TV set.

And as for the 35% of this country that loves and worships this biblical beast, they will be stumbling through the rubble and eating out of trash cans, and they will still be muttering "lock her up... lock her up..." through cracked, bleeding lips.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
17. We have been facing election fraud frenzy since 1968
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:14 AM
Nov 2019

Nixon had his Dirty Tricks Team (Fox Noise icon Roger Ailes was one of the last surviving members), and its success has been taken to higher and higher levels ever since. Every close presidential election since then (as well as 2016, which was nowhere near close) has been tipped to the Republicans under dubious circumstances. Only overwhelming numbers bring a Democrat into the White House, as Republican electoral fraud has been honed to a fine science.



"It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting."
And so they did. A rare moment of Republican candor.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. Trump's rampages can only help us.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:42 AM
Nov 2019

Remember, he fired Comey which led to the Mueller probe.

He was pushing for dirt on Biden, which led to impeachment hearings.

Basically, it is good politics to trigger the orange clown, as his reactions are usually illegal and politically bad for him.

Now, voter suppression/theft we must be vigilant about, but he was going to try that anyway.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
22. Trump has been on a vengeance rampage. The thing is, there's no sheriff in town
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:36 AM
Nov 2019

any longer. Other than the tedious legal route, there is no enforcement mechanism. It really is up to the Republicans to remove Trump. There's an outside hope we might get help from our intelligence community (perhaps in conjunction with help from the intelligence agencies of our allies) in preventing mass fraud and outside influence. We need more whistleblowers--constant streams of whistleblowers and urgent legal actions.

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