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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,227 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 02:00 PM Nov 2019

Celtic woman found buried inside a TREE 'wearing fancy clothes and jewellery' after 2,200 years

For anyone desiring a break from Trump...

It’s believed the woman, who died 2,200 years ago, commanded great respect in her tribe, as she was buried in fine clothes and jewellery.

Scientists say the woman was Celtic. The Iron Age Celts are known to have buried members of their tribe in “tree coffins” buried deep underground.

The woman’s remains were found in the city of Zurich in 2017, according to Live Science.

Bedecked in a fine woolen dress and shawl, sheepskin coat, and a necklace made of glass and amber beads, researchers believe she performed little if any hard labor while she was alive. It’s estimated she was around 40 years old when she died, with an analysis of her teeth indicating a substantial sweet tooth.

Adorned in bronze bracelets and a bronze belt chain with iron clasps and pendants, this woman was not part of low social strata. Analysis of her bones showed she grew up in what is now modern-day Zurich, likely in the Limmat Valley.

Most impressive, besides her garments and accessories, is the hollowed-out tree trunk so ingeniously fixed into a coffin. It still had the exterior bark intact when construction workers stumbled upon it, according to the initial 2017 statement from Zurich’s Office of Urban Development.

While all of the immediate evidence — an Iron Age Celtic woman’s remains, her bewildering accessories, and clothing, the highly creative coffin — is highly interesting on its own, researchers have discovered a lot more to delve into since 2017.

More at https://www.archaeology-world.com/celtic-woman-found-buried-inside-a-tree-wearing-fancy-clothes-and-jewellery-after-2200-years/

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Celtic woman found buried inside a TREE 'wearing fancy clothes and jewellery' after 2,200 years (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 OP
Pictures: tblue37 Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #12
K; R CatWoman Nov 2019 #2
Fascinating. Thanks for posting. dameatball Nov 2019 #3
The headline gave me a bit of a fright... Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #4
Beguiling! n/t ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #15
Try this one, a bit more raw... rwsanders Nov 2019 #21
Cool, thanks. klook Nov 2019 #27
Loved it. Thanks! n/t ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #31
Ain't it the truth? ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #30
Funny, all of a sudden I feel like sending a contribution to my local PBS station... klook Nov 2019 #25
Wow! That made my day!! Scotch-Irish Nov 2019 #35
I love 'em! Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #36
Very cool. cwydro Nov 2019 #5
With modern technology, this is such an exciting time with Hortensis Nov 2019 #6
A dugout log, not a whole 'tree'. eppur_se_muova Nov 2019 #7
Fascinating....I am always interested in learning how our ancestors Tanuki Nov 2019 #8
here is where my ohm my is appropriate . AllaN01Bear Nov 2019 #9
News to me. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2019 #10
This link diverted me from my plan for the day. ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #32
And yet, the highly scholarly article linked to Igel Nov 2019 #37
great find! an awful lot of diversion in there. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2019 #43
Fiona Hill came to mind when I read about the women warriors. n/t ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #46
Then there is this, from the posted article ... reACTIONary Nov 2019 #44
Sweet tooth? James48 Nov 2019 #11
A Celtic Melania. SergeStorms Nov 2019 #13
Fascinating. smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #14
That is fascinating. The Celts, aka Gauls, had quite an extensive range over time. Hekate Nov 2019 #16
Awesome discovery! However was curious how a Celtic woman was in Zurich in 180 BC. Fla Dem Nov 2019 #17
Cool, I did not know that re. their migration. But... Beartracks Nov 2019 #20
druids are (mostly) associated with the Celti stopdiggin Nov 2019 #22
For anyone interested in the subject-- ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #33
Thanks, will bookmark for later. Fla Dem Nov 2019 #40
The main culture preceding the Celts Codeine Nov 2019 #24
Celts pretty much got genocided out of mainland Europe sadly ansible Nov 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #39
Me too.. whathehell Nov 2019 #48
Interesting they are making a connection to the Celtic man found just a few PatrickforO Nov 2019 #18
What a great way to spend eternity bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #19
Totally awesome! Bayard Nov 2019 #26
The Celts were almost everywhere here in Europe DFW Nov 2019 #28
Glad to see I'm not alone. ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #29
a very interesting book- 'how the irish saved civilization', about this very thing. mopinko Nov 2019 #38
Thanks for the tip! n/t ariadne0614 Nov 2019 #41
"How the Irish Saved Civilization" whathehell Nov 2019 #49
Thanks for the link! shanti Nov 2019 #34
Love the archeology posts...thank you! Karadeniz Nov 2019 #42
Me too.. whathehell Nov 2019 #47
"wine-guzzling, gold-designing, poly/bisexual, naked-warrior-battling culture" NurseJackie Nov 2019 #45

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rwsanders

(2,596 posts)
21. Try this one, a bit more raw...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:32 PM
Nov 2019


Like you signature. Never understood how those get conflated. One is an economic system the other is a governing system. We could have a great democracy with socialism. We just need a population who view each other as something more than a commodity.

klook

(12,154 posts)
25. Funny, all of a sudden I feel like sending a contribution to my local PBS station...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:50 PM
Nov 2019

and I have an inexplicable urge to listen to the Four Tops and Steppenwolf.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. With modern technology, this is such an exciting time with
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 02:18 PM
Nov 2019

great new capabilities for all lines of research into the past. I'd be thrilled if one of our grandchildren became one of those seekers of new knowledge.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
8. Fascinating....I am always interested in learning how our ancestors
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 02:40 PM
Nov 2019

lived, before they were able to leave a written record. I love seeing the recreation of the little details of her clothing, shoes, jewelry, etc.

ariadne0614

(1,712 posts)
32. This link diverted me from my plan for the day.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:56 PM
Nov 2019

My favorite takeaway was:
“The sexual freedom of women in Britain was noted by Cassius Dio:

... a very witty remark is reported to have been made by the wife of Argentocoxus, a Caledonian, to Julia Augusta. When the empress was jesting with her, after the treaty, about the free intercourse of her sex with men in Britain, she replied: "We fulfill the demands of nature in a much better way than do you Roman women; for we consort openly with the best men, whereas you let yourselves be debauched in secret by the vilest." Such was the retort of the British woman.[121]”

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
43. great find! an awful lot of diversion in there.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 10:28 PM
Nov 2019

I wonder if women were drafted to warrior status when their men were being killed off in battle. Surely woman's skepticism about war has been with us for centuries.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
44. Then there is this, from the posted article ...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:40 AM
Nov 2019
Interestingly enough, from 450 B.C. to 58 B.C. — the exact same timeframe that the Celtic woman and man were buried — a “wine-guzzling, gold-designing, poly/bisexual, naked-warrior-battling culture” called La Tène flourished in Switzerland’s Lac de Neuchâtel region.

James48

(4,435 posts)
11. Sweet tooth?
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 02:58 PM
Nov 2019

I’m sure she was the original inventor of Swiss Chocolate.

No wonder she was well off. Her tribe loved her!

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
13. A Celtic Melania.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 03:12 PM
Nov 2019

All adorned in her designer clothes and bedecked in her finest jewelry. She couldn't have possibly done any less work than Melanie, that's for sure.

Hekate

(90,641 posts)
16. That is fascinating. The Celts, aka Gauls, had quite an extensive range over time.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 03:25 PM
Nov 2019

Off to see if the whole article will open for me.

Fla Dem

(23,645 posts)
17. Awesome discovery! However was curious how a Celtic woman was in Zurich in 180 BC.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 03:42 PM
Nov 2019

Last edited Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)

So did a little research and found, as I'm sure some of you smart folks already knew, the Celtic tribes migrated from central Europe to the British Isles in the late BC era. Don't know why, but I always "assumed" the Celts had British Isle origins. Probably because the Boston Celtics had shamrocks and a Leprechaun in their logos.



I guess that explains how with my predominantly British and Irish ancestry on my Mom's side, I also have some French and German ancestry in the mix.

Love DU always learning something.

Beartracks

(12,807 posts)
20. Cool, I did not know that re. their migration. But...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:09 PM
Nov 2019

... who had to make way for them in Britannia - the Druids?

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stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
22. druids are (mostly) associated with the Celti
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:36 PM
Nov 2019

Not a ethnic group so much as a "class" within the Celtic society. Generally regarded as a religious and judicial authority. Another really fascinating topic (with a lot of "general knowledge" folklore now being challenged by new scholarship).

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
24. The main culture preceding the Celts
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:42 PM
Nov 2019

in England is usually referred to as the Beaker or Bell Beaker culture (named after a pottery style.) The coming of the Celtic culture seems to be as much an absorption of languages and technologies as anything else — not an invasion or making way but a change and adaptation. “The Celts” are a language group rather than an ethnicity.

At least that’s my layman’s understanding.

Response to Fla Dem (Reply #17)

whathehell

(29,065 posts)
48. Me too..
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 02:01 PM
Nov 2019

I'm of mainly Irish descrnt, but a curious "4% French" turned up on my recent Ancestry DNA test.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
18. Interesting they are making a connection to the Celtic man found just a few
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 03:44 PM
Nov 2019

yards away, but in 1903. Now, here's this woman.

Whenever I see something like this, I always end up daydreaming a bit, imagining what life might have been like for those people way back when.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
19. What a great way to spend eternity
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 04:08 PM
Nov 2019

Celts were fascinating. Watched a Youyouyouyoutube video on it a few years back. Central European as I recall. So many civilizations come and go.

DFW

(54,338 posts)
28. The Celts were almost everywhere here in Europe
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:23 PM
Nov 2019

All the way down to the "Donaukelten (Danube Celts)" and the Celtic tribes of modern day Galicia in northwestern Spain, the Bretons of (duh) Brittany in France, and, of course, the ones that crossed the channel to dominate much of the British Isles. Their coins are still discovered all over with metal detectors. Their coin designs are used to pinpoint which area thy were made, and to trace migrations (the die styles followed their engravers, and thus their people). They were making coins with primitive imitations of Macedonian coins dating back to Philip II and Alexander the Great, so some 2400 years ago.

ariadne0614

(1,712 posts)
29. Glad to see I'm not alone.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:31 PM
Nov 2019

An inexcusable chunk of my afternoon has been spent poring over the wiki link. It verified my understanding that certain areas of Ireland and Scotland never fell to Roman rule. I like to think that’s how they maintained their magical qualities over the millennia.

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
38. a very interesting book- 'how the irish saved civilization', about this very thing.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:43 PM
Nov 2019

really interesting. because they loved books, their monasteries were full of copies of any book they could get their hands on.
since the romans never took them down, those ancient tomes were preserved. the other copies of most of them were lost in the dark ages.

whathehell

(29,065 posts)
49. "How the Irish Saved Civilization"
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

Yes, I read it and loved it -- A very interesting and fun read.

Ireland's not called "The Land of Saints and Scholars" for nothing.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. "wine-guzzling, gold-designing, poly/bisexual, naked-warrior-battling culture"
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:02 PM
Nov 2019
Interestingly enough, from 450 B.C. to 58 B.C. — the exact same timeframe that the Celtic woman and man were buried — a “wine-guzzling, gold-designing, poly/bisexual, naked-warrior-battling culture” called La Tène flourished in Switzerland’s Lac de Neuchâtel region.
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