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LAS14

(13,781 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 07:03 PM Nov 2019

I'm relieved to find that we don't have to totally reject Thanksgiving.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't tell the whole story about our beginnings. But we should elevate those times when people do come together.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/us/thanksgiving-myths-fact-check.html

The Mayflower did bring the Pilgrims to North America from Plymouth, England, in 1620, and they disembarked at what is now Plymouth, Mass., where they set up a colony. In 1621, they celebrated a successful harvest with a three-day gathering that was attended by members of the Wampanoag tribe. It’s from this that we derive Thanksgiving as we know it.
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A prevalent opposing viewpoint is that the first Thanksgiving stemmed from the massacre of Pequot people in 1637, a culmination of the Pequot War. While it is true that a day of thanksgiving was noted in the Massachusetts Bay and the Plymouth colonies afterward, it is not accurate to say it was the basis for our modern Thanksgiving, Ms. Sheehan said.

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I'm relieved to find that we don't have to totally reject Thanksgiving. (Original Post) LAS14 Nov 2019 OP
one can always have a celebration totally disconnected from ancient history, a celebration msongs Nov 2019 #1
Very true. And Thanksgiving is certainly that. nt LAS14 Nov 2019 #2
That first Thanksgiving was a Plymouth Colony affair Brother Buzz Nov 2019 #3

msongs

(67,393 posts)
1. one can always have a celebration totally disconnected from ancient history, a celebration
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 08:17 PM
Nov 2019

of thanks based on the here and now

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
3. That first Thanksgiving was a Plymouth Colony affair
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:32 PM
Nov 2019

And that Pequot massacre was primarily a Massachusetts Bay Colony mess. The Plymouth Colony was unwillingly absorbed and became subservient the the Massachusetts Bay Colony (there was a lot of friction between them). Many of the 'Strangers' of the Plymouth Colony, of whom I'm descended from, hated the 'puritan' rule of the Massachusetts Bay Colony and moved away.

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