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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:46 AM Nov 2019

Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash says Giuliani offered help w/ legal problems if he did him a favor

Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash gives an interview to the NYT. He says Giuliani, via Parnas and Fruman, offered him help with his US legal problems if he hired pro-Trump lawyers Toensing and diGenova and helped with Giuliani's shadow Ukraine campaign.




Why Giuliani Singled Out 2 Ukrainian Oligarchs to Help Dig Up Dirt

VIENNA — They were two Ukrainian oligarchs with American legal problems. One had been indicted on federal bribery charges. The other was embroiled in a vast banking scandal and was reported to be under investigation by the F.B.I.

And they had one more thing in common: Both had been singled out by Rudolph W. Giuliani and pressed to assist in his wide-ranging hunt for information damaging to one of President Trump’s leading political rivals, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

... snip

In the case of Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon with deep ties to the Kremlin who is facing extradition to the United States on bribery and racketeering charges, one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates has described offering the oligarch help with his Justice Department problems — if Mr. Firtash hired two lawyers who were close to President Trump and were already working with Mr. Giuliani on his dirt-digging mission. Mr. Firtash said the offer was made in late June when he met with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, both Soviet-born businessmen involved in Mr. Giuliani’s Ukraine pursuit.

Mr. Parnas’s lawyer, Joseph A. Bondy, confirmed that account and added that his client had met with Mr. Firtash at Mr. Giuliani’s direction and encouraged the oligarch to help in the hunt for compromising information “as part of any potential resolution to his extradition matter.”

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/giuliani-ukraine-oligarchs.html


Down in the article:

Toensing and diGenova delivered for Firtash by arranging the meeting with Attorney General Barr.
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Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash says Giuliani offered help w/ legal problems if he did him a favor (Original Post) MelissaB Nov 2019 OP
All of their interactions, appear to be quid pro quos. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
Isn't Giuliani's soliciting Firtash's help w/ Biden dirt in exchange for "resolution" of his MelissaB Nov 2019 #4
I believe so. 😳 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #6
I'm wondering why firtash did this SonofDonald Nov 2019 #11
Why say Oligarch when Mobster is more correct? C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #2
Barr is a mobster fixer Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #3
Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing Mike 03 Nov 2019 #5
Seth Abramson details a lot of criminal activity by DiGenova & Toensing. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #7
Hoo boy. 2naSalit Nov 2019 #8
Started to post this but noticed this thread. Knr triron Nov 2019 #9
Holy Shit! Firtash! kentuck Nov 2019 #10
These rats have gone all teeth bared now! Cracklin Charlie Nov 2019 #12

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
4. Isn't Giuliani's soliciting Firtash's help w/ Biden dirt in exchange for "resolution" of his
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:57 AM
Nov 2019

extradition the definition of a quid pro quo?

I can't keep up with all of these mobsters mobbing.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
11. I'm wondering why firtash did this
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

Why did he just dump on Giuliani?

I thought they were on the same side

For some reason the knives are out, Putin starting the kiss off?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:05 AM
Nov 2019

These two need to be subjected to legal scrutiny. We haven't heard enough about them in the MSM. Are they also close to William Barr? How many other Trump criminals have they 'helped"?

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
10. Holy Shit! Firtash!
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:19 AM
Nov 2019

Rudy got him a meeting with Barr?

What the hell is going on?!!!

From the link:
<snip>
There was one more piece to Mr. Parnas’s play. “Per Giuliani’s instructions,” Mr. Parnas’s lawyer said, his client “informed Mr. Firtash that Toensing and diGenova were interested in collecting information on the Bidens.” (It was the former vice president who had pushed the Ukrainian government to eliminate middleman gas brokers like Mr. Firtash and diversify the country’s supply away from Russia.)

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