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edhopper

(33,570 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:02 PM Nov 2019

We must take at least 3 States from Trump

Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

he could lose PA and MI and the popular vote by 5 million and still be elected.
We must take the States he won!
We must get people to vote!

It's scary, but we must fight this abomination.

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We must take at least 3 States from Trump (Original Post) edhopper Nov 2019 OP
Getting out the vote is the only thing that matters moose65 Nov 2019 #1
Who will be organizing the GOTV? DBoon Nov 2019 #2
As someone who has walked a ton of precincts over redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #4
I live in a rural, red area murielm99 Nov 2019 #18
If you live in a blue state, donate to county Dem groups in a swing state. blm Nov 2019 #11
Thanks I live in a very blue state DBoon Nov 2019 #13
DU helped Meck County Dems in N.C. one year and it made the diff blm Nov 2019 #19
Glad DU was able to help! moose65 Nov 2019 #20
Wake and Guilford do have strong D numbers, but, I've blm Nov 2019 #24
you can sign up to get involved in GOTV with FairFight.com -- Organization founded by Stacey Abrams diva77 Nov 2019 #15
He won by less than 1/10th of one percent the last time around.. I have hope! secondwind Nov 2019 #3
Very doable to take those 3 states he STOLE last General Election ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2019 #5
Florida evertonfc Nov 2019 #6
Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Texas should be in play NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #7
Quoting George Stephanopolous... at140 Nov 2019 #8
I agree TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #10
absolutely thats what I said in November 2016 and January 2017 Fresh_Start Nov 2019 #14
Pro-actively trying to crash the economy is not the answer. phleshdef Nov 2019 #25
Economy is over-heated, and over due for a temporary setback at140 Nov 2019 #40
States that will flip Scoopster Nov 2019 #9
Iowa, Kansas and North Carolina are much more red than Wisconsin is. bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #17
He has done nothing but energize his base Norbert Nov 2019 #12
Why not Dan Nov 2019 #16
What few Democrats I know seem to have doc03 Nov 2019 #21
Michelle Obama would beat him like a drum at140 Nov 2019 #22
Let's hope they are wrong edhopper Nov 2019 #23
I'll probably be banned.. Anyone Nov 2019 #28
Our ideal candidate would a 50 ish, straight, moderate, doc03 Nov 2019 #33
You're wrong edhopper Nov 2019 #35
Actually, we only need one state TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #26
Texas will be very tough edhopper Nov 2019 #27
My gut feeling is that WI will go back to blue Poiuyt Nov 2019 #29
I'm not confident of that. The polls out of WI are worrisome. Joe941 Nov 2019 #30
And honestly I'd advise you to stop taking cheap shots at Hillary. Joe941 Nov 2019 #31
Excuse me? Poiuyt Nov 2019 #32
Why are we talking about this in 2019? Myself and many doc03 Nov 2019 #34
We didn't know about the Russians edhopper Nov 2019 #36
True nt doc03 Nov 2019 #37
We had a candidate in 2016 Sugarcoated Nov 2019 #41
Omg..are you trying to insert reality? No one has Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #38
We are effed Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #39

moose65

(3,166 posts)
1. Getting out the vote is the only thing that matters
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:06 PM
Nov 2019

We have to overwhelm with such a great turnout that it swamps the voter-suppression and election hijinks.

I want us to have a turnout of such massive proportions that has never been seen before. I want us to kick Trump's ass out of office, regain the Senate, and win over every state legislature within reach. I want us to win PA, MI, and WI back, and to add in AZ, IA, GA, and (come on)!!! My own North-fuckin-Carolina. I want these assholes so demoralized that no one will touch them.

Hey, a man can dream, can't he??

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. As someone who has walked a ton of precincts over
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:13 PM
Nov 2019

the years, money is great but warm bodies are better. It is so hard to find volunteers willing to knock on doors or talk to people at events. Working phones and tables are what we need.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
18. I live in a rural, red area
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:11 PM
Nov 2019

of a blue state. Actually, I am find it easier to get warm bodies out there these days. I hope they don't burn out before the general. Our primary is March 17.

blm

(113,043 posts)
11. If you live in a blue state, donate to county Dem groups in a swing state.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:46 PM
Nov 2019

That money goes to GOTV.

blm

(113,043 posts)
19. DU helped Meck County Dems in N.C. one year and it made the diff
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:16 PM
Nov 2019

for statewide judges, big time. Most voters don’t know judges, and N.C. Republicans took away party affiliation for judges on the ballot. DU helped pay for the printing of voter handouts that featured all the Dem judges. Dems swept the judge seats that year. It matters for statewide races, especially, because Meck County is where most of the Dem voters in N.C. reside.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
20. Glad DU was able to help!
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:28 PM
Nov 2019

But actually, "most" Dem voters in NC don't live in Mecklenburg County. Wake County has the same amount of Dems (if not more) and Guilford has a large amount as well.

blm

(113,043 posts)
24. Wake and Guilford do have strong D numbers, but, I've
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:14 PM
Nov 2019

heard that Meck numbers have exploded n recent years. But, I did word that last post awkwardly.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
15. you can sign up to get involved in GOTV with FairFight.com -- Organization founded by Stacey Abrams
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:03 PM
Nov 2019
Join our Fight for Free, Fair, and Secure Elections in 2020.

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Fair Fight 2020 is building voter protection teams with Democratic state parties or local allies across the country to protect the right to vote–and we’re starting now. Sign up today to ensure that 2020 is a Fair Fight.


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We promote fair elections in Georgia and around the country, encourage voter participation in elections, and educate voters about elections and their voting rights. Fair Fight brings awareness to the public on election reform, advocates for election reform at all levels, and engages in targeted voter registration and other voter outreach programs and communications.

Voter suppression of voters of color and young voters is a scourge our country faces in states across the nation. Georgia’s 2018 elections shown a bright light on the issue with elections that were rife with mismanagement, irregularities, unbelievably long lines and more, exposing both recent and also decades-long actions and inactions by the state to thwart the right to vote. Georgians and Americans are fighting back. Fair Fight Action engages in voter mobilization and education activities and advocates for progressive issues; in addition Fair Fight Action has mounted significant programs to combat voter suppression in Georgia and nationally.

Fair Fight PAC has initiated programs to support voter protection programs at state parties around the country and is engaging in partnerships to support and elect pro voting rights, progressive leaders.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
5. Very doable to take those 3 states he STOLE last General Election ...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:15 PM
Nov 2019

Even if Dems GOTV to huge numbers all across this country, what is ru$$ia going to do for an encore to stick their noses into our elections to get their big, fat, treasonous puppet elected AGAIN by any means necessary. They too have a 50 state strategy.

tRumputin, MoscowMitch nor ANY thuglicans going to do shit to make sure our elections are as safe and fair as they SHOULD be.

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
6. Florida
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:27 PM
Nov 2019

This is where Trump will make his stand. We can win it and if we do- game over. 2016 was low turnout. Demographics favor us there if we have a candidate that can GOTV

at140

(6,110 posts)
8. Quoting George Stephanopolous...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:34 PM
Nov 2019

"It is the economy, stupid!" To help win in 2020, do the following:

Postpone buying stuff until Nov 2020, stuff you really don't need urgently.
Do not buy any more stocks until election.
Sell stocks in 2020. Taxes could go up in 2021.
Postpone any travel which is not required until election.

If stock market crashes and retail sales tank, Trump is toast.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
10. I agree
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:43 PM
Nov 2019

We need to leverage our shrinking economic power now, because if we don't do something about economic inequality soon, we will be serfs at the mercy of the 1%.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
14. absolutely thats what I said in November 2016 and January 2017
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

if you want to get rid of this POS, crash the economy.

at140

(6,110 posts)
40. Economy is over-heated, and over due for a temporary setback
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:54 PM
Nov 2019

might as well try to time it with the 2020 election.
It does no good if it crashes after the election.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
9. States that will flip
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:38 PM
Nov 2019

PA
MI
IA
AZ
Maybe KS
Maybe NC
Maybe WI
Maybe FL
Maybe GA
Maybe one EV from Nebraska

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
17. Iowa, Kansas and North Carolina are much more red than Wisconsin is.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:10 PM
Nov 2019

If Iowa goes blue, Iowa, Kansas and NC all are.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
12. He has done nothing but energize his base
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 04:51 PM
Nov 2019

Pissed off members of the military, some of the farmers, continuing to hack off anyone of color.

He campaigned for three gubernatorial races and only won one of them by less than expected results.

I believe he will not only lose the three rust belt states, he will lose three others (Arizona, Iowa and North Carolina).

doc03

(35,325 posts)
21. What few Democrats I know seem to have
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:34 PM
Nov 2019

concluded that we can't beat him with any of the current candidates.

at140

(6,110 posts)
22. Michelle Obama would beat him like a drum
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 06:03 PM
Nov 2019

but alas, she is not running.
And there were no governors on stage at the last debate.
And none of the well known prominent current senators are running.

 

Anyone

(15 posts)
28. I'll probably be banned..
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:51 PM
Nov 2019

but Tulsi is the *only* credible candidate that can beat Trump.

I say this because Tump is a master TROLL and he's playing this whole impeachment gig upon himself intentionally. Remember - "there's no such thing as bad publicity". At the end of the day, I think Ms. Gabbard is the only candidate that Trump can least likely lay a glove upon.

Tell me why I'm wrong...

doc03

(35,325 posts)
33. Our ideal candidate would a 50 ish, straight, moderate,
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:33 PM
Nov 2019

white guy with chrisma. Trump wouldn't have a chance.
But it is what it is.

TexasTowelie

(112,123 posts)
26. Actually, we only need one state
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
Nov 2019

which is why I supported Beto. Some people prefer to get there along the more difficult path though.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
29. My gut feeling is that WI will go back to blue
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:52 PM
Nov 2019

It will all come down to turnout in Milwaukee and Madison. I live in the Fox Valley, which is supposed to be mixed or perhaps slightly red. But I don't hear too many people who support trump. If the Democratic candidate is at least somewhat reasonable and campaigns well, I believe WI will vote for the Dem.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
34. Why are we talking about this in 2019? Myself and many
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:43 PM
Nov 2019

others here were told over and over in 2015 about a blue wall. When us people in the rust belt said we were in trouble we were told "You concern is noted". There were people that thought because of demographics Democrats couldn't lose. We had a Blue Wall.

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
41. We had a candidate in 2016
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 03:13 AM
Nov 2019

who did not connect with blue collar Dems. Here in PA a surprising number of people I know, very reluctantly voted for Clinton or voted down ticket only. A few did indeed vote for crooked Don. In order to win in PA the city numbers must be high. The AA turnout wasn't sufficient to overcome the woodchucks in the rural parts of PA.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Omg..are you trying to insert reality? No one has
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:48 PM
Nov 2019

Protected the vote from Russians And it's been 3 years and not a single Dem mentioned in in debates, did they?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. We are effed
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 11:53 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/senate-finds-russia-targeted-election-systems-in-all-50-states-but-legislation-is-stonewalled-2019-07-25

Senate finds Russia targeted election systems in all 50 states, but legislation is stonewalled


By Associated Press

Senate finds Russia targeted election systems in all 50 states, but legislation is stonewalled
By Associated Press

Published: July 25, 2019 11:18 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — Robert Mueller warned that Russian interference is still happening “as we sit here.”

State election officials are anxious and underfunded, some running systems with outdated software and scrounging for replacement parts off e-Bay.

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