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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLindsey Graham looks like a frightened man.
They just showed a clip of him om MSNBC talking about Joe Biden and that he (Graham) was just "doing his duty" in the Senate by opening an investigation into the Bidens. He also claimed to "love" Joe Biden and Biden "tore the bark off" John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008 and Joe Biden was friends with John McCain, so there!
He looks so pathetic. There is a backstory that will one day be told that will lead to an understanding of Graham's atrocious behavior.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)alterfurz
(2,469 posts)...because they've all done that. Can't be just the gay, either...unless there are minors involved?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)2naSalit
(86,323 posts)either were or became members of the Epstein club either as participants in the raping or as funders/enablers in which they ended up with the slime on them too. And if it isn't the Epstein club it's the pootin club where they are participating in some other criminal organization.
When it comes to Lindsey, I'm sure it the Epstein club.
obamanut2012
(26,046 posts)Probably male.
One golf meeting with Trump and he flips? Yeah, he was told something.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Republican congressman from FL . . . he and Lindsey were friends.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Funneled via the NRA into their coffers. The Party itself is awash in the Motherland's cash.
They're being blackmailed, every single one of them. You can see fear in their eyes (behind the pinwheels spinning); Nunes isn't a tough guy, he's scared shitless, so is Graham, and they're not afraid of Trump like we so readily theorize.
Want a clue? Remember on the 4th of July when all those GOPPers went to Moscow? You think THAT wasn't to send a message? All of them were getting their marching orders and a "premonition" of what would happen if they swayed off course.
captain queeg
(10,092 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)2naSalit
(86,323 posts)dchill
(38,441 posts)Oath of office? Oath of office? Anybody? Anybody?
Siwsan
(26,249 posts)No doubt everyone whose opinion on trump* has done a '180' is in the same situation.
onetexan
(13,020 posts)He set in place.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,287 posts)Just helping out his puppet.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)What's that supposed to mean? That he exposed them for what they are/were? Nope. They did that to themselves. Go fuck yourself, Lindsey.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... play nice on TV while being nasty for his Deplorable voters.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)dchill
(38,441 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)He seems to have regressed from what he was (and that's not saying much)
Bucky
(53,936 posts)And then gravitated, along with the rest of the Republican herd, like a lost puppy dog in the rain following whoever throws him a scrap of food
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)goes on camera is pretty telling. Whatever it is they have on him has him firmly in line, stuck with his lot in life. But he lives in eternal fear that the truth will eek out. So he continues to behave by the rules of whoever has him under their thumb.
Im not young anymore. If I get my wish, Ill live long enough for this whole conspiracy to be unraveled and well know the whole story. Every detail. And Lindsey, the little worm, will have to deal with what he has done. Face to face. What a lowlife. Id hate to think if this is how he treats someone he likes, how does he treat his enemies??!
Bucky
(53,936 posts)The backstory is that quislings travel in herds.
Lindsey Graham, while IQ-wise a pretty smart fellow, is the kind of guy who loves following a strong man. When John McCain was alive, he recognized the real thing and trotted after McCain like a lost puppy dog.
After McCain died, Graham quickly found a new strong man to be craven over. Or technically he lacked the moral center and to resist falling in line behind Trump like all the other quislings in the Republican Party.
I don't know if he arrived in Washington DC like that, or if being around the center of power for so many years it just exacerbated that quality in him. But he has always put his considerable talents toward nuzzling up to the strongest man in the room.
If you're looking for the psychological background that created this sort of personality flaw, read his biography. Both his parents died when he was a teenager and he had to raise his much younger sister on his own. That altered his life plans at a young age and probably created some of that puppy like anxiousness to please whoever can give him emotional shelter.
MLAA
(17,250 posts)In my opinion it is such criminal behavior that it wouldnt just be embarrassing but could land him in prison.
Bucky
(53,936 posts)MLAA
(17,250 posts)I would think he would go public and not allow himself to be blackmailed resulting in a loss of all integrity and most recently his mental health.
Just my guess.
dchill
(38,441 posts)One round of golf was all it took to completely reverse Lindsey's emotional condition? Enough time, I guess, for TrumPutin to show Lindsey his very own dossier.
chowder66
(9,054 posts)Once McCain couldn't "be there" for him he started looking for his next compass and he found it in Trump. I think it's as simple as that.
He's bereft in all things and we are seeing a very flawed man hitching his bandwagon to a nightmare - which is Trump.
He could have, in a way, created his own legacy in Congress easily. Continuing McCain's work and stance to a degree.
Graham wouldn't ever reach the same reverence as McCain but he could have been a "Maverick"; instead he ran from it and became the
lackey for a madman. I think that's why you see all of these crazy swings from Graham.
The man is lost.
Or....... they have some nasty dirt on him. Who really knows?
pnwest
(3,266 posts)defense of trump. I cant believe theyre ALL so stupid as to believe the crap coming out of their mouths, and it comes out with such ugly fierceness, like Please believe me! See?! Look how serious and passionate I am about this! I love the spinny eyes someone else mentioned.
Talking with the boyfriend one day, I surmised it has to be something so much worse than we imagine. I cannot understand why they are so willingly trashing their reputations, credibility, futures...I said most people, after SO much public rejection and anger directed at them, would say screw it, its not worth THIS level of stress to try to keep something like an affair or being gay from coming to light.
It said it feels like were at the point in the movie where the bad guy has nukes pointed at the country, has an itchy trigger finger and is threatening to blow up the world if he doesnt get what he wants. Which made me wonder if the threat IS something THAT serious. Wayyyy beyond blackmail. Maybe Putin has revealed capability of taking down our entire electrical grid, or taking down the entire banking system with a virus - or even nukes. Their desperation to be seen as remaining loyal to trump, and by default his pro-Russian agenda, feels to me anyway, much heavier than blackmail, more like their - and our - lives depend on it.
I remember when the 2008 financial crisis happened, there was a report that in September of that year, of a very strange and alarming sudden drain of billions and billions of dollars from our financial system in some way, late on a Friday I think. It was mentioned briefly by one guy, and then we never heard about it again. I think back to that, and the understanding of what an utterly fragile thing stock market speculation and our entire system of finance is, and wonder if our entire nation and way if life is being threatened in this kind of grave manner.
Aristus
(66,286 posts)He's a frightened little boy. A perfect example of the party made up almost exclusively of frightened little boys. They are so terrified that people are going to start treating them they way they've been treating everyone else in the country since Eisenhower left office.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)The Little Jerk Once defined by his loathing for Trump, Lindsey Graham is now all-in for the president. Why?
By Lisa Miller Illustration by Philip Burke
as a politician ever debased himself more in public than when Lindsey Graham eulogized his friend John McCain? Bleary-eyed from grief, the senior senator from South Carolina took his place at the lectern on the Senate floor and insisted on his own inferiority. He was the Great Mans mascot, his funny little buddy his wingman, he said lucky to have walked in his shadow and blessed to have been loved by him. McCain, who used pejoratives as endearments, called Graham Little Jerk. Recalling this, Graham looked up from his notes, seeming to be considering its meaning for the first time. Youve all got your names, he said darkly. And you earned them like I did.
It is tempting to imagine that in that moment, Graham was reflecting on all the ways he had betrayed his friend. McCain hated Trump with all his tenacious strength and banned him from his own funeral, yet as McCain lay dying, Graham went golfing with the president. Later he helped wangle an invitation to the funeral for Ivanka and Jared.
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Yet a couple of days before McCain died, Graham was on Fox, giving Trump cover for potentially firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions after the midterms a move that could have catastrophic political and constitutional effects should a more malleable AG find a way to end or curb the Mueller probe. Earlier this month, Graham clarified his position again, saying any new AG nominee would have to protect the investigation.
This waffling, from a politician who has always presented himself as a stalwart protector of the rule of law, made Democrats who had imagined in him a conscience or a plausible rebel turn away in despair. Even some of Grahams erstwhile friends in the GOP reminded him of what hed said just last year, that if Trump fired Sessions, there would be holy hell to pay. Bill Kristol, the conservative pundit and former ally of Grahams, shamed him on Twitter: History will record that @LindseyGrahamSC went out of his way to court favor with Donald Trump at precisely the moment his enablers needed to hear a message of resistance.
More: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/09/what-happened-to-lindsey-graham.html
oasis
(49,326 posts)spooky3
(34,405 posts)Republicans have likely received payments. And, they see the polls showing their base is still backing Trump, so if they want to keep their income and power, they go along to get along.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Leningrad Lindsey is a weakling, a follower. He NEEDS an alpha dog. Too bad he lost John McCain.
Leningrad Lindsey went to Moscow. Moscow is like Las Vegas. What happens in Moscow stays in Moscow. And Putin allowed Leningrad Lindsey to live out his wildest dreams. OF COURSE Pootie Poot taped it. Duh!