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madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 09:54 AM Nov 2019

Lindsey Graham looks like a frightened man.

They just showed a clip of him om MSNBC talking about Joe Biden and that he (Graham) was just "doing his duty" in the Senate by opening an investigation into the Bidens. He also claimed to "love" Joe Biden and Biden "tore the bark off" John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008 and Joe Biden was friends with John McCain, so there!

He looks so pathetic. There is a backstory that will one day be told that will lead to an understanding of Graham's atrocious behavior.

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Lindsey Graham looks like a frightened man. (Original Post) madaboutharry Nov 2019 OP
It's got to be beyond bad. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
can't be just the rubles laundered through the NRA to his campaign... alterfurz Nov 2019 #9
That's what I'm thinking. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #12
I think a lot of them 2naSalit Nov 2019 #18
I think it has to be minors obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #21
Anybody remember Mark Foley ??? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #32
All the GOP Congressmen and -women with pinwheel eyes took dirty Russian oligarch money Mr. Ected Nov 2019 #2
Yep captain queeg Nov 2019 #8
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #13
+100000000000000000000000!! 2naSalit Nov 2019 #19
We can all agree with that! dchill Nov 2019 #27
What ever is in that dossier, that I suspect trump* has on him, must be beyond scathing Siwsan Nov 2019 #3
For sure putin has blackmailed the GOP members to remain loyal to the Useful Idiot onetexan Nov 2019 #7
You can bet Putin shared his intel on Republican leadership. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #30
Tore the bark off of McCain and Palin? GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #4
Think it just means him and obama whupped their ass in the election ... (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #31
The media always let him... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #5
Underage Boy or Girl? GeorgeGist Nov 2019 #6
Not that it matters, but my guess is boy(s.) dchill Nov 2019 #28
Are we still calling him a man? FM123 Nov 2019 #10
He lost his surrogate daddy when McCain died Bucky Nov 2019 #15
He is clearly being controlled by someone. The sweat on his face whenever he Grammy23 Nov 2019 #11
"There is a backstory..." Bucky Nov 2019 #14
All that you said plus some kind of criminal behavior is being held as blackmail. MLAA Nov 2019 #16
What makes you think it's criminal behavior? Bucky Nov 2019 #24
If it were merely embarrassing and not criminal.... MLAA Nov 2019 #25
Yes, he's a born idolator. But I think there's more to it. dchill Nov 2019 #29
Graham has no compass. McCain seemed to be that for him. chowder66 Nov 2019 #17
There's such a desperate quality to their pnwest Nov 2019 #20
He's not a frightened man. Aristus Nov 2019 #22
This article from September 2018 pretty much covers Lindsey Graham csziggy Nov 2019 #23
Leningrad Lindsey has slid even deeper into the deplorable quagmire. nt oasis Nov 2019 #34
I don't think it's blackmail. I think it's money. Many of the spooky3 Nov 2019 #26
two things... not_the_one Nov 2019 #33

alterfurz

(2,469 posts)
9. can't be just the rubles laundered through the NRA to his campaign...
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:37 AM
Nov 2019

...because they've all done that. Can't be just the gay, either...unless there are minors involved?

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
18. I think a lot of them
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:18 PM
Nov 2019

either were or became members of the Epstein club either as participants in the raping or as funders/enablers in which they ended up with the slime on them too. And if it isn't the Epstein club it's the pootin club where they are participating in some other criminal organization.

When it comes to Lindsey, I'm sure it the Epstein club.

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
21. I think it has to be minors
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

Probably male.

One golf meeting with Trump and he flips? Yeah, he was told something.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
2. All the GOP Congressmen and -women with pinwheel eyes took dirty Russian oligarch money
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 09:58 AM
Nov 2019

Funneled via the NRA into their coffers. The Party itself is awash in the Motherland's cash.

They're being blackmailed, every single one of them. You can see fear in their eyes (behind the pinwheels spinning); Nunes isn't a tough guy, he's scared shitless, so is Graham, and they're not afraid of Trump like we so readily theorize.

Want a clue? Remember on the 4th of July when all those GOPPers went to Moscow? You think THAT wasn't to send a message? All of them were getting their marching orders and a "premonition" of what would happen if they swayed off course.

Siwsan

(26,249 posts)
3. What ever is in that dossier, that I suspect trump* has on him, must be beyond scathing
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 09:58 AM
Nov 2019

No doubt everyone whose opinion on trump* has done a '180' is in the same situation.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
7. For sure putin has blackmailed the GOP members to remain loyal to the Useful Idiot
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

He set in place.

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
4. Tore the bark off of McCain and Palin?
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:00 AM
Nov 2019

What's that supposed to mean? That he exposed them for what they are/were? Nope. They did that to themselves. Go fuck yourself, Lindsey.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
10. Are we still calling him a man?
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019

He seems to have regressed from what he was (and that's not saying much)

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
15. He lost his surrogate daddy when McCain died
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:53 AM
Nov 2019

And then gravitated, along with the rest of the Republican herd, like a lost puppy dog in the rain following whoever throws him a scrap of food

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
11. He is clearly being controlled by someone. The sweat on his face whenever he
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

goes on camera is pretty telling. Whatever it is they have on him has him firmly in line, stuck with his lot in life. But he lives in eternal fear that the truth will eek out. So he continues to behave by the rules of whoever has him under their thumb.

I’m not young anymore. If I get my wish, I’ll live long enough for this whole conspiracy to be unraveled and we’ll know the whole story. Every detail. And Lindsey, the little worm, will have to deal with what he has done. Face to face. What a lowlife. I’d hate to think if this is how he treats someone he “likes”, how does he treat his enemies??!

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
14. "There is a backstory..."
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:51 AM
Nov 2019

The backstory is that quislings travel in herds.

Lindsey Graham, while IQ-wise a pretty smart fellow, is the kind of guy who loves following a strong man. When John McCain was alive, he recognized the real thing and trotted after McCain like a lost puppy dog.

After McCain died, Graham quickly found a new strong man to be craven over. Or technically he lacked the moral center and to resist falling in line behind Trump like all the other quislings in the Republican Party.

I don't know if he arrived in Washington DC like that, or if being around the center of power for so many years it just exacerbated that quality in him. But he has always put his considerable talents toward nuzzling up to the strongest man in the room.

If you're looking for the psychological background that created this sort of personality flaw, read his biography. Both his parents died when he was a teenager and he had to raise his much younger sister on his own. That altered his life plans at a young age and probably created some of that puppy like anxiousness to please whoever can give him emotional shelter.

MLAA

(17,250 posts)
16. All that you said plus some kind of criminal behavior is being held as blackmail.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:58 AM
Nov 2019

In my opinion it is such criminal behavior that it wouldn’t just be embarrassing but could land him in prison.

MLAA

(17,250 posts)
25. If it were merely embarrassing and not criminal....
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:20 PM
Nov 2019

I would think he would go public and not allow himself to be blackmailed resulting in a loss of all integrity and most recently his mental health.

Just my guess.

dchill

(38,441 posts)
29. Yes, he's a born idolator. But I think there's more to it.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:54 PM
Nov 2019

One round of golf was all it took to completely reverse Lindsey's emotional condition? Enough time, I guess, for TrumPutin to show Lindsey his very own dossier.

chowder66

(9,054 posts)
17. Graham has no compass. McCain seemed to be that for him.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:18 PM
Nov 2019

Once McCain couldn't "be there" for him he started looking for his next compass and he found it in Trump. I think it's as simple as that.
He's bereft in all things and we are seeing a very flawed man hitching his bandwagon to a nightmare - which is Trump.

He could have, in a way, created his own legacy in Congress easily. Continuing McCain's work and stance to a degree.
Graham wouldn't ever reach the same reverence as McCain but he could have been a "Maverick"; instead he ran from it and became the
lackey for a madman. I think that's why you see all of these crazy swings from Graham.

The man is lost.


Or....... they have some nasty dirt on him. Who really knows?

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
20. There's such a desperate quality to their
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:48 PM
Nov 2019

defense of trump. I can’t believe they’re ALL so stupid as to believe the crap coming out of their mouths, and it comes out with such ugly fierceness, like “Please believe me! See?! Look how serious and passionate I am about this!” I love the “spinny eyes” someone else mentioned.

Talking with the boyfriend one day, I surmised it has to be something so much worse than we imagine. I cannot understand why they are so willingly trashing their reputations, credibility, futures...I said most people, after SO much public rejection and anger directed at them, would say screw it, it’s not worth THIS level of stress to try to keep something like an affair or being gay from coming to light.

It said it feels like we’re at the point in the movie where the bad guy has nukes pointed at the country, has an itchy trigger finger and is threatening to blow up the world if he doesn’t get what he wants. Which made me wonder if the threat IS something THAT serious. Wayyyy beyond blackmail. Maybe Putin has revealed capability of taking down our entire electrical grid, or taking down the entire banking system with a virus - or even nukes. Their desperation to be seen as remaining loyal to trump, and by default his pro-Russian agenda, feels to me anyway, much heavier than blackmail, more like their - and our - lives depend on it.

I remember when the 2008 financial crisis happened, there was a report that in September of that year, of a very strange and alarming sudden drain of billions and billions of dollars from our financial system in some way, late on a Friday I think. It was mentioned briefly by one guy, and then we never heard about it again. I think back to that, and the understanding of what an utterly fragile thing stock market speculation and our entire system of finance is, and wonder if our entire nation and way if life is being threatened in this kind of grave manner.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
22. He's not a frightened man.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 02:09 PM
Nov 2019

He's a frightened little boy. A perfect example of the party made up almost exclusively of frightened little boys. They are so terrified that people are going to start treating them they way they've been treating everyone else in the country since Eisenhower left office.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
23. This article from September 2018 pretty much covers Lindsey Graham
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019
Sept. 16, 2018
The “Little Jerk” Once defined by his loathing for Trump, Lindsey Graham is now all-in for the president. Why?
By Lisa Miller Illustration by Philip Burke

as a politician ever debased himself more in public than when Lindsey Graham eulogized his friend John McCain? Bleary-eyed from grief, the senior senator from South Carolina took his place at the lectern on the Senate floor and insisted on his own inferiority. He was the Great Man’s mascot, his funny little buddy — his “wingman,” he said — lucky to have walked in his shadow and blessed to have been loved by him. McCain, who used pejoratives as endearments, called Graham “Little Jerk.” Recalling this, Graham looked up from his notes, seeming to be considering its meaning for the first time. “You’ve all got your names,” he said darkly. “And you earned them like I did.”

It is tempting to imagine that in that moment, Graham was reflecting on all the ways he had betrayed his friend. McCain hated Trump with all his tenacious strength and banned him from his own funeral, yet as McCain lay dying, Graham went golfing with the president. Later he helped wangle an invitation to the funeral for Ivanka and Jared.

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Yet a couple of days before McCain died, Graham was on Fox, giving Trump cover for potentially firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions after the midterms — a move that could have catastrophic political and constitutional effects should a more malleable AG find a way to end or curb the Mueller probe. Earlier this month, Graham clarified his position again, saying any new AG nominee would have to protect the investigation.

This waffling, from a politician who has always presented himself as a stalwart protector of the rule of law, made Democrats who had imagined in him a conscience or a plausible rebel turn away in despair. Even some of Graham’s erstwhile friends in the GOP reminded him of what he’d said just last year, that if Trump fired Sessions, “there would be holy hell to pay.” Bill Kristol, the conservative pundit and former ally of Graham’s, shamed him on Twitter: “History will record that @LindseyGrahamSC went out of his way to court favor with Donald Trump at precisely the moment … his enablers needed to hear a message of resistance.”

More: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/09/what-happened-to-lindsey-graham.html

spooky3

(34,405 posts)
26. I don't think it's blackmail. I think it's money. Many of the
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 11:26 PM
Nov 2019

Republicans have likely received payments. And, they see the polls showing their base is still backing Trump, so if they want to keep their income and power, they go along to get along.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
33. two things...
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:00 AM
Nov 2019

Leningrad Lindsey is a weakling, a follower. He NEEDS an alpha dog. Too bad he lost John McCain.

Leningrad Lindsey went to Moscow. Moscow is like Las Vegas. What happens in Moscow stays in Moscow. And Putin allowed Leningrad Lindsey to live out his wildest dreams. OF COURSE Pootie Poot taped it. Duh!

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