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CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:18 PM Nov 2019

The true story behind Arlo Guthrie's Thanksgiving staple, "Alice's Restaurant"

It's a true story.



https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/11/21/18104601/alices-restaurant-arlo-guthrie-thanksgiving



. . .


In Guthrie’s deadpan delivery, the whole story has a loopy, fever-dream quality, but most of what happens in it is true. Guthrie’s littering made the local paper that fateful Thanksgiving of 1965, with Police Chief William J. Obanhein (the Officer Obie of the song) remarking sternly that he hoped the case would serve “as an example to others who are careless about the disposal of rubbish.”

And Guthrie was, in fact, disqualified from the draft because of his arrest record. “I just couldn’t believe it,” he told NPR in 2005. “And so I turned it into a song. It took about a year to put together, and I’ve been telling it ever since just about.”

The song that Guthrie put together and has continued singing ever since is a kind of scathing ode to bureaucratic idiocy, to a system that so prizes conformity that it treats littering as a scandalous sin even as it celebrates military violence. And at the end, it becomes a protest song.

“The only reason I’m / Singing you this song now is ‘cause you may know somebody in a similar / Situation, or you may be in a similar situation,” Guthrie explains. “And if you’re in a / Situation like that there’s only one thing you can do and that’s walk into / The shrink wherever you are, just walk in say, ‘Shrink, You can get / Anything you want, at Alice’s restaurant.’ And walk out.”

The song, Guthrie proclaims, will become a movement: “the Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacree Movement.” A massacree is a series of absurd events, so the Alice’s Restaurant Movement is against absurdity and in favor of reason. It is against arresting someone for littering and in favor of ending wars.

“Alice’s Restaurant” had its radio premiere in February of 1967 on New York City’s WBAI-FM, in a live performance, and it almost immediately became a runaway hit. Guthrie released a recording of another live performance in October of that year — the recording that radio stations play now — and that’s when the song started to become a Thanksgiving institution.

“It’s celebrating idiocy you might say,” Guthrie said in 2005. . . .

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The true story behind Arlo Guthrie's Thanksgiving staple, "Alice's Restaurant" (Original Post) CousinIT Nov 2019 OP
...and creatin' a nuisance. pecosbob Nov 2019 #1
Group W 'The resistance' CousinIT Nov 2019 #3
have you rehabilitated yourself? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #6
I first heard it in a live radio studio performance Lindsay Nov 2019 #2
I got to see Arlo... tonedevil Nov 2019 #4
Second that! DFW Nov 2019 #9
Great story! And I love the song! Alliepoo Nov 2019 #5
Kid... blogslut Nov 2019 #7
Still have the vinyl album! Hekate Nov 2019 #8
Nice, but ... Straw Man Nov 2019 #10

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
2. I first heard it in a live radio studio performance
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:34 PM
Nov 2019

from WCAU in Philadelphia, some time between that first radio performance and the record release.

It was wonderful!

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
4. I got to see Arlo...
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:45 PM
Nov 2019

perform that song and quite a few others when he was touring the Alice Restaurant 50th Anniversary. He is still a great performer.

DFW

(54,365 posts)
9. Second that!
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:46 AM
Nov 2019

He regularly performs at Payomet in Truro, MA in the summer when I am there, and we go see him whenever we can.

His shows are always sold out (of course!).

Alliepoo

(2,215 posts)
5. Great story! And I love the song!
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 04:00 PM
Nov 2019

I’ve had it sung to me many times thru the years when I’ve met people and they learn that my name is Alice!

Straw Man

(6,623 posts)
10. Nice, but ...
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 04:07 AM
Nov 2019

... is there anyone who knows the song that doesn't know the story behind it?

I love that Arlo's address is given as "Howard Beach. N.Y." That's where Woody and Marjorie lived. So Arlo was either still living at home or still had his parents' address on his driver's license.

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