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HAB911

(8,880 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 04:05 PM Dec 2019

Interesting read: How the right sold out to Russia

Now that Rep. Adam Schiff and the House Intelligence Committee have opened an investigation into the Russia affair, and President Donald Trump has darkly warned in his State of the Union speech that “America will never be a socialist country,” it seems timely to recall a long-forgotten tale of revenge over unrequited love, in which members of the Koch family, which had helped build Joseph Stalin’s oil refineries, found their investments nationalized and themselves embittered.

In 1925, Fred C. Koch joined his MIT classmate Lewis E. Winkler to found the Winkler-Koch Engineering Company in Wichita, Kansas. After losing patent infringement lawsuits to more established oil and gas companies, they sought business overseas. Between 1929 and 1932, during Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan, Winkler-Koch built 15 thermal cracking units for Stalin, turning crude oil into gasoline.

Jane Mayer, in a book that grew out of a 2010 article in The New Yorker, an unauthorized assessment of the Koch family’s spending habits, “Dark Money” (2016), quotes Gus diZerega, a “former friend of Charles Koch”: “As the Soviets became a stronger military power, Fred felt a certain amount of guilt at having helped build them up.”

Perhaps. But that did not stop Winkler-Koch, in 1934, from providing engineering plans and overseeing construction of a huge oil refinery near Hamburg under the direction of Adolf Hitler, whom Fred Koch approached directly, purportedly greeting him with: “Heil Hitler.” The Winkler-Koch factory became a major source of fuel for the Luftwaffe (German Air Force) and the mechanized tank and motorized attack forces that powered the Blitzkrieg into Belgium, Denmark, Poland and France. The factory was destroyed by Allied bombers late in the war.

https://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2019/02/how-the-right-sold-out-to-russia/

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Interesting read: How the right sold out to Russia (Original Post) HAB911 Dec 2019 OP
Money has zero Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #1
Yep. Money knows no loyalties. It also has no morals. paleotn Dec 2019 #6
And it doesn't come with instructions. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #10
Indeed ck4829 Jan 2020 #22
Scary 'graph UpInArms Dec 2019 #2
+1 dalton99a Dec 2019 #16
Was just about to post that. Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #18
The irony.... Xolodno Dec 2019 #20
Chilling ck4829 Jan 2020 #23
Charles Koch is funding a Fifth Column to help Russia's black market insurgency into this country. ancianita Dec 2019 #3
I wonder when the Putin-esque killings will begin in America. C Moon Dec 2019 #4
Ahem, Weinstein anybody? nt Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #7
I think you mean Epstein. hedda_foil Dec 2019 #14
Either way, they're no good unless they tell their tale. Kid Berwyn Dec 2019 #19
Good question ck4829 Jan 2020 #24
Skeletons rickyhall Dec 2019 #5
to paraphrase a line from The Tempest: patphil Dec 2019 #8
The World War connections of Big Business were very slow to leak out bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #9
And just to be clear, these clowns that scream SOCIALISM! helped Joe Stalin's Communist USSR bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #11
Yep ck4829 Jan 2020 #25
Republicans have always been traitors to our country. As long they're fascist rockfordfile Dec 2019 #12
Those Russian ruses go way back? czarjak Dec 2019 #13
Kicking. For a good read. nt Hotler Dec 2019 #15
PLEASE ! If you haven't read this article, do so now liberalla Dec 2019 #17
K&R ck4829 Jan 2020 #21
Traitors. nt oasis Jan 2020 #26
Great read underpants Jan 2020 #27

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
2. Scary 'graph
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 05:12 PM
Dec 2019
The right — in America, in Britain and in France — is now owned by the Russian deep state, and through willing enablers such as the NRA, has become a conduit for Russian funds and influence. So now the final revenge of the KGB’s Russia for the West has been revealed. They have nearly destroyed British parliamentary democracy. They have deeply undermined post-war French modernism. And they have helped install in the U.S. a buffoonish puppet, less intelligent if less inebriated than Boris Yeltsin, whose weakness Vladimir Putin also came to exploit. While few care to admit it, the result may very well be the end of the American experiment in democracy.

Kid Berwyn

(14,876 posts)
18. Was just about to post that.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:45 PM
Dec 2019

Glad there are more than a few left who do understand and give a damn.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
20. The irony....
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 01:27 AM
Dec 2019

Russia's mixed economy is more socialist that ours. Even they know going hard right is a bad idea...and an idea they are willing to promote to anyone they consider adversarial for its self destruction.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
5. Skeletons
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 06:21 PM
Dec 2019

Koch & Bush families both got rich off Hitler & the Holocaust.

And Bush had the nerve to complain about Joe Kennedy getting rich off Prohibition.

Koch built refineries, Bush helped finance Auschwitz

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
9. The World War connections of Big Business were very slow to leak out
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 06:48 PM
Dec 2019

They dared not tell the people. It was the 60s before info on aviation fuel was published, and only then in obscure high density tomes that few would read. My WWII dad always had a sarcastic comment for IGFarben, but I doubt he knew about American companies or politicians who were connected to funding and supplying Hitler's Nazi war materiel.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
11. And just to be clear, these clowns that scream SOCIALISM! helped Joe Stalin's Communist USSR
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 06:55 PM
Dec 2019

now they're turning unfettered capitalism against everyone here

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