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yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:51 AM Jan 2012

Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say, "Why not?"

"Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?" - Ted Kennedy eulogy for RFK 1968.

Or we could say, "because it is the right thing to do, Senator."

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Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say, "Why not?" (Original Post) yellowcanine Jan 2012 OP
Because what 2 consenting adults decide to do is nobody elses business LynneSin Jan 2012 #1
To be fair, there is little danger of Ricky having the opportunity of marrying a gay man. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #3
Or we could just laugh in his face. Skinner Jan 2012 #2
Spot on. This is exactly what I ask of others. Laugh in the faces of those politicians Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #4
Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say, justiceischeap Jan 2012 #5
There's no rational basis for opposition to it IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #6
Ricky says because it will lead to polygmy. You don't think that is sincere and rational? yellowcanine Jan 2012 #10
Well, I would call it something else Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #12
my answer to that question maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #7
I just hate that Obama has the same position as Santorum on this issue. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #8
I'm disappointed as well Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #13
And ask him, EC Jan 2012 #9
He is worried his wife would bolt for another woman? yellowcanine Jan 2012 #11
An honest question wandy Jan 2012 #14
I would think that bringing his wife's aborted fetus home to meet his kids Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #16
his response to it is Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #15
We should say: 'If you believe in individual rights, then let them have the right to marry'. ItNerd4life Jan 2012 #17
The essense of freedom is that you can do what isn't expressly forbidden by law... krispos42 Jan 2012 #18

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
1. Because what 2 consenting adults decide to do is nobody elses business
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jan 2012

If Dick Santorum doesn't like gay marriage then he shouldn't marry a gay man.

Other than that he should mind his own business!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
3. To be fair, there is little danger of Ricky having the opportunity of marrying a gay man.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

What gay man would stoop that low?

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
2. Or we could just laugh in his face.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jan 2012

Really, it is well past time for people to embrace gay marriage. Those who still oppose it are ridiculous.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. Spot on. This is exactly what I ask of others. Laugh in the faces of those politicians
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jan 2012

who try to sell that soap. Just laugh, long and hard. Right in their faces.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
5. Santorum asks "why should same sex marriage be allowed". We should say,
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jan 2012

"Because 53% of Americans, the majority, agree that it's time to stop oppressing American citizens."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
6. There's no rational basis for opposition to it IMHO
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jan 2012

The only basis that anybody EVER puts forward about why same-sex marriage should be illegal/not allowed is always rooted in religious belief but since we are (theoretically) NOT a theocracy and people in our country are free to practice whatever religion they want (or none at all), religious beliefs are (theoretically) not supposed to form the basis of our public policies. I have yet to hear a sincere, rational reasons for why it would in our country's best interests to deny same-sex couples the right to marry, mostly because I suspect that there are none.

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
7. my answer to that question
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jan 2012

Because it is in the best interest of society to make policies which encourage long term, monogamous relationships.

Period.

An estimated 5 to 10% of the country engages in same-sex relationships. Marriage with its associated legal, financial, social and religious implications has historically been the best tool to reinforce long term relationships.

In my opinion, opposing same-sex marriage is one step away from endorsing promiscuity (not that there's anything wrong with prmiscuity if its your choice -- I just don't thing the gov't should encourage it).

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. I just hate that Obama has the same position as Santorum on this issue.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jan 2012

I like Obama but would like him a lot more if he favored marriage equality.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
13. I'm disappointed as well
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jan 2012

though I suspect it has more to do with "politics" and less personal belief. It took a long time, of course, for (viable) Presidential candidates just to be able to publicly support Civil Unions. Hell, even gays in the military and repealing DADT used to be too hot to touch ever since Clinton got burned back in 1993. It will probably be a little while longer before major-party candidates for public office feel like they can openly support same-sex marriage and, yes, I do believe that it is somewhat cowardly not to be able and willing to stand up for it now, particularly at this point in time when more and more states are moving on from Civil Unions to full marriage equality for same-sex citizens despite ongoing pushback from the right but I believe it will eventually happen. One of the biggest problems for proponents of same-sex marriage is that same-sex marriage is (wrongly IMHO) viewed by the public more as "gay rights" than "human rights".

wandy

(3,539 posts)
14. An honest question
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 01:51 PM
Jan 2012

Do you ever wonder if Santorum has repeated nightmares where he wakes up in a cold fearful sweet, spooning a Blah man named Marcus and sporting a painfull orange speaker of the house?
Just asking.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. I would think that bringing his wife's aborted fetus home to meet his kids
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jan 2012

is the thing that would give him nightmares.


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. his response to it is
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jan 2012

"because for 230 years that has been the law".



It is a bull shit argument but it is the one he uses.



I think if we simply keep hammering on the "equal protection under the law" point we win the argument and anyone who isn't a closed minded bigot can see that.

ItNerd4life

(1,067 posts)
17. We should say: 'If you believe in individual rights, then let them have the right to marry'.
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jan 2012

This is an individual rights issue and it's what we should be throwing back at them.

Where in the Constitution does it define what marriage is? It doesn't, therefore government has no business getting involved.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
18. The essense of freedom is that you can do what isn't expressly forbidden by law...
Fri Jan 6, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jan 2012

...and that what is forbidden by law must have clear and concise reasoning behind it.

Gay marriage, among other topics, fails the second part of my statement.

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