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from huffpost:
Christian Lawmakers Group Blames Satan After Twitter Poll Goes Badly Awry
The National Association of Christian Lawmakers posted a Twitter poll about religion in politics. They didnt like the response.
A group ostensibly representing Christian lawmakers launched a poll on Twitter over the weekend asking if America would be better off with more Christians in elected office.
It didnt go well:
After more than 16,000 replies, the answer was an overwhelming no, which received 95.8% of the vote. In response, the group accused atheists and Satanists of religious persecution for voting in the poll.
Congress is overwhelmingly Christian, far out of proportion with the people they represent. According to a Pew survey last year, the Senate and House are nearly 90% Christian, compared with 65% of America as a whole. ........(more)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christian-lawmakers-poll-satanists_n_5e4b7a2bc5b65f25da4e4ca4
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)If you don't like the facts, it is a conspiracy and you are being persecuted.....look at Dear Leader Bedbug.
Nothing is his fault, it is always someone out to get the paranoid nutjob.
safeinOhio
(32,669 posts)Must be Satan too.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Was because of gay people.
safeinOhio
(32,669 posts)other than that it's the devil.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Out west. I get all my plagues, earthquakes and floods mixed up now....
mgardener
(1,816 posts)Who causes tornadoes?
Atheists?
Or Democrats?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)Coventina
(27,100 posts)rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)in elected offices, and one or two self proclaimed atheists? And that means they're the ones being persecuted?
underpants
(182,762 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)the orange one with 666 under his bad hair plugs.
OMGWTF
(3,950 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,641 posts)not many of them act like Christians.
Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #12)
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leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)I am a Christian and attend the Episcopal church. We have a thoroughly inclusive church and a group of people committed to working hard for the betterment of our fellow humans. I'm not an Evangelical - which is probably a better term for you to use.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)Christianity whether evangelical, mainstream, etc... is such a vast and sometimes arbitrary distinction that when people say things like, "that is not very Christian" the phrase isn't very informative. I take it to mean that it isn't the way that Christ, as depicted in the Gospels, would act. However, Christ's 3 years of public preaching (which are the Gospel accounts) is preceded by the Old Testament, which is part of the Christian doctrine (despite conflict as to whether Christ was the continuation, fulfillment, or destruction of the old ways). It is followed by the Acts of the Apostles and the various "early Church" letters (mainly Paul, who wasn't really an Apostle) which lays out the interpretation of Christ's teachings to followers.
It is easy to pick parts of the Bible and teachings and say, "This is what it means to be Christian" and those people aren't doing it right. It is the same mentality that right wingers use when they say that LGBT people are going to hell, etc... I know that there is no mention of homosexuality during Christ's public preaching period and it is ambiguously related in Paul's writings. The Old Testament discusses it in a vague manner as well. The point is that the Bible was written from oral tradition, translated, interpreted, and is preached by different Christian groups in very different ways and each and every one of those groups claims to have the "correct" interpretation.
leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)The "Christians" being discussed in this thread are the kind who say that The Bible is the "Word of God" and that every one of those words is sacrosanct without the benefit of thought, introspection, and (yes) prayer.
I'm one of those "do unto others" kind of Christians.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)I was raised Catholic which we all know, has its share of horrific history. There are very liberal Catholics and VERY Conservative Catholics In my many years practicing, I met many wonderfully kind priests and sisters, and some who wore the faith as a cross; real fire and brimstone type people.
Catholics were reviled by many Protestant groups because we did not adhere to the "solo scriptura" doctrine which states that the Bible is the inerrant word of God and should be the only guide. They accuse Catholics of "making stuff up" and following the Pope rather than following Christ. The parish and schools that I went to were very focused on the social gospel as well and social justice rather than the punitive nature of hellfire and damnation.
I have always seen religion in two ways. There is a beauty in the spirituality and self improvement aspects of faith. However there is always the "social control" and manipulation that turned me off.
calimary
(81,209 posts)Catholic school inmate here. Doesnt seem unreasonable to point to evangelicals. They got their oats up during reagan, who realized they were an untapped wealth of earthly political strength, and votes. And h harnessed then and put em to work. Their aggressive MY religion or death! pushing and posturing, trying to force themselves into the mainstream and control all has worked WAY too well.
Thereve been many religious movements and loud splashy public offensives before, but the evangelical jones to rule and control and subdue all its perceived competition for public allegiance AND, most important, dollars, was all-encompassing.
And they used all those contributions from the suckers - OOPS! I mean, the faithful - to build TV studios and radio studios and produce programming and content galore to run on every station, network, and platform they could find.
The aggressive evangelical movement really screwed our country, AND our democracy. We were set up to keep church and state SEPARATE. The evangeliCal movement hates that more than Satan, because they believe in power even more than they believe in love of God. And thats REALLY what they worship. Thats why so many of em gravitate toward trump. They basically believe power makes you god, when you boil it down to its essence.
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)that beset our species, that keep us from 'growing up,' are the lust for power and the lust for wealth.
Get rid of those, and we can really make some progress.
Of course, those darned capitalists with their ideas on shareholder primacy will get in the way. In fact, if a movement begins for our species to shuck the greed and political ambition, the capitalists will certainly kill those in charge of that movement.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)to go out and evangelize the world to your cause.
Pity those who need religion as a spur to work for the betterment of humanity when good old secular humanism is sufficient.
leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)Just as I would not ask you to change yourself or "evangelize" you, I don't think it's your place to tell me what is in my heart. Sorry, this thing cuts both ways.
Lonestarblue
(9,971 posts)The ones youre describing are the mostly white rabid Trump supporters who claim to be Christian while worshipping the devil named Trump. Some Christian denominations, like Episcopalians, actually are Christians.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)Nothing like throwing ALL Christians into the self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing elitists tent.
Turin_C3PO
(13,959 posts)Ive known plenty of decent Christians, most of them liberal and compassionate. Evangelicals arent the whole of Christianity.
flying_wahini
(6,589 posts)I am an atheist and I act more like a Christian than they do.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Sometimes I have my doubts.
Ingersollman
(204 posts)only when we die.
OMGWTF
(3,950 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,527 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Iggo
(47,548 posts)As a former Southern Baptist as I've always said I'd rather be in hell with the non-believers then in heaven with these hypocrites.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)i doubt many of them believe in gawd. they use religion, plus they are too cowardly to admit they are non-believers.
isn't there something in the bible about by their actions you will know them?
a more accurate telling would be that an overwhelming number of lawmakers profess to being christian. not that they are.
rurallib
(62,406 posts)And claim Christianity only for the votes? Why wouldn't that earn them a spot deep in the bowels of Hell?
wryter2000
(46,032 posts)He told people not to stand on the corner spouting their piety like the hypocrites. (Paraphrasing here.)
barbtries
(28,787 posts)i would be quite certain they're headed in that direction
PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)But these people aren't even trees - more like noxious weeds.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Youll find him on Twitter or the golf course, or maybe bellowing clouds sulphuric bullshit at a rally where he feeds off the blind adoration of his ignorant, easily-duped worshippers.
To hell with him.
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)My ass. What a bunch of bullshit. Just another IRS avoidance scam. Investigate every single "charity" to ensure they are following the rules. That way the conservawhiners can't claim they are being singled out.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)more than half of which came from a single anonymous donor.
IDIOTS!
MissMillie
(38,548 posts)and they could always use that excuse instead of blaming Satan
But then again... that would just prove the point that they were trying to use an un-scientific poll to back up their political position.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)Maybe this 'overwhelming negative response' to this bible-thumping idiocy will carry through to the election in November.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)One of the greatest forces for evil in the world. Instigator of countless wars, oppression, torture, and entrenched poverty for centuries. Its stupid religious tenets go unquestioned by the adherents. Between a virgin birth and Jesus escaping earth's gravity to ascend into heaven, wherever that is? Praying to an invisible sky god to wave his magic wand and suspend the laws of physics to grant people's prayers. They just seem to miss the whole point about practicing peace, tolerance, generosity, compassion, and forgiveness.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Because thats where the most obvious problem lies.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)And anyone who uses it is doing Satan's work.
Yeah, that makes sense.