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marmar

(77,072 posts)
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:39 AM Feb 2020

Christian Lawmakers Group Blames Satan After Twitter Poll Goes Badly Awry


from huffpost:



Christian Lawmakers Group Blames Satan After Twitter Poll Goes Badly Awry
The National Association of Christian Lawmakers posted a Twitter poll about religion in politics. They didn’t like the response.


A group ostensibly representing Christian lawmakers launched a poll on Twitter over the weekend asking if America would be better off with more Christians in elected office.

It didn’t go well:

After more than 16,000 replies, the answer was an overwhelming “no,” which received 95.8% of the vote. In response, the group accused “atheists and Satanists” of “religious persecution” for voting in the poll.

Congress is overwhelmingly Christian, far out of proportion with the people they represent. According to a Pew survey last year, the Senate and House are nearly 90% Christian, compared with 65% of America as a whole. ........(more)

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christian-lawmakers-poll-satanists_n_5e4b7a2bc5b65f25da4e4ca4






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Christian Lawmakers Group Blames Satan After Twitter Poll Goes Badly Awry (Original Post) marmar Feb 2020 OP
conservative magical thinking at its finest. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #1
Floods in the Bible Belt. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #2
I thought flooding bluecollar2 Feb 2020 #8
Only in California safeinOhio Feb 2020 #10
I thought it was earthquakes bluecollar2 Feb 2020 #51
Well then... mgardener Feb 2020 #44
Feminists. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #52
Almost all elected officials in the US are Christians already. nt. Mariana Feb 2020 #3
This makes my heart smile. Coventina Feb 2020 #4
Nice turn of phrase. Mine too now that you pointed it out. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #5
Mine too. mountain grammy Feb 2020 #26
So they basically want to get rid of the Jewish people, and tiny number of Muslims Crunchy Frog Feb 2020 #6
Well GREAT! Now Satan has bots underpants Feb 2020 #7
Lol marmar Feb 2020 #9
I blames satan also yaesu Feb 2020 #11
And his fidiot followers with their MAGAt hats -- the mark of the Beast on their foreheads OMGWTF Feb 2020 #17
I like that! Sign of the beast on their forehead.... MAGA not_the_one Feb 2020 #23
90% of congresscritters may claim to be Christians... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #12
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #16
Sorry, not fair leftieNanner Feb 2020 #21
Therein lies the problem. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #32
Excellent Post leftieNanner Feb 2020 #35
Yep. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #48
I get that. calimary Feb 2020 #36
Yes. It is the human tragedy. The two greatest illusions PatrickforO Feb 2020 #40
You still depend on make believe as the basis of your faith. Your faith still says stopbush Feb 2020 #43
You know nothing about my faith leftieNanner Feb 2020 #46
Not really. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #28
WOW, not to stereotypical ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #31
That's an ugly, ugly, remark. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #41
Uh, 'pretend' Christians, you mean. Politicians just play like they are so they can get votes. flying_wahini Feb 2020 #13
Will we ever rid ourselves of the scourge of Christianity? stopbush Feb 2020 #14
Probably Ingersollman Feb 2020 #30
Blame Satan because owning up to your own bullshit is too hard for these fkers. OMGWTF Feb 2020 #15
"Wolves surprised sheep vote negatively in poll for higher wolf population..." (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2020 #18
Get off the cross, we need the wood. nt. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #19
Anyway, you can never get that third nail in. Iggo Feb 2020 #45
Typical EveDibb Feb 2020 #20
i don't believe they're overwhelmingly christian. barbtries Feb 2020 #22
Are you saying perhaps they are hypocrites? rurallib Feb 2020 #25
According to Jesus, they're hypocrites wryter2000 Feb 2020 #34
if i believed in hell barbtries Feb 2020 #54
Yes, judging a tree by its fruit. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #39
Satan wears three gallons of bronzer and sports a multi-directional comb-over. VOX Feb 2020 #24
National Association of Christian Lawmakers? lonely bird Feb 2020 #27
This wasn't a clue of what to expect? ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #29
I always thought that online polls were not scientific MissMillie Feb 2020 #33
I wish I could blame Satan when things go awry. :) wyldwolf Feb 2020 #37
I saw this. PatrickforO Feb 2020 #38
I don't believe in magic. rickyhall Feb 2020 #42
I have come to detest Christianity vlyons Feb 2020 #47
They should be blaming themselves MrScorpio Feb 2020 #49
"Believe like me or else"? czarjak Feb 2020 #50
I'm willing to consider that Twitter itself is the work of the Devil. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #53

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. conservative magical thinking at its finest.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 10:44 AM
Feb 2020

If you don't like the facts, it is a conspiracy and you are being persecuted.....look at Dear Leader Bedbug.

Nothing is his fault, it is always someone out to get the paranoid nutjob.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
6. So they basically want to get rid of the Jewish people, and tiny number of Muslims
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:16 AM
Feb 2020

in elected offices, and one or two self proclaimed atheists? And that means they're the ones being persecuted?

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #12)

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
21. Sorry, not fair
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:14 PM
Feb 2020

I am a Christian and attend the Episcopal church. We have a thoroughly inclusive church and a group of people committed to working hard for the betterment of our fellow humans. I'm not an Evangelical - which is probably a better term for you to use.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
32. Therein lies the problem.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:58 PM
Feb 2020

Christianity whether evangelical, mainstream, etc... is such a vast and sometimes arbitrary distinction that when people say things like, "that is not very Christian" the phrase isn't very informative. I take it to mean that it isn't the way that Christ, as depicted in the Gospels, would act. However, Christ's 3 years of public preaching (which are the Gospel accounts) is preceded by the Old Testament, which is part of the Christian doctrine (despite conflict as to whether Christ was the continuation, fulfillment, or destruction of the old ways). It is followed by the Acts of the Apostles and the various "early Church" letters (mainly Paul, who wasn't really an Apostle) which lays out the interpretation of Christ's teachings to followers.

It is easy to pick parts of the Bible and teachings and say, "This is what it means to be Christian" and those people aren't doing it right. It is the same mentality that right wingers use when they say that LGBT people are going to hell, etc... I know that there is no mention of homosexuality during Christ's public preaching period and it is ambiguously related in Paul's writings. The Old Testament discusses it in a vague manner as well. The point is that the Bible was written from oral tradition, translated, interpreted, and is preached by different Christian groups in very different ways and each and every one of those groups claims to have the "correct" interpretation.

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
35. Excellent Post
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:03 PM
Feb 2020

The "Christians" being discussed in this thread are the kind who say that The Bible is the "Word of God" and that every one of those words is sacrosanct without the benefit of thought, introspection, and (yes) prayer.

I'm one of those "do unto others" kind of Christians.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
48. Yep.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:40 PM
Feb 2020

I was raised Catholic which we all know, has its share of horrific history. There are very liberal Catholics and VERY Conservative Catholics In my many years practicing, I met many wonderfully kind priests and sisters, and some who wore the faith as a cross; real fire and brimstone type people.

Catholics were reviled by many Protestant groups because we did not adhere to the "solo scriptura" doctrine which states that the Bible is the inerrant word of God and should be the only guide. They accuse Catholics of "making stuff up" and following the Pope rather than following Christ. The parish and schools that I went to were very focused on the social gospel as well and social justice rather than the punitive nature of hellfire and damnation.

I have always seen religion in two ways. There is a beauty in the spirituality and self improvement aspects of faith. However there is always the "social control" and manipulation that turned me off.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
36. I get that.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:14 PM
Feb 2020

Catholic school inmate here. Doesn’t seem unreasonable to point to evangelicals. They got their oats up during reagan, who realized they were an untapped wealth of earthly political strength, and votes. And h harnessed then and put ‘em to work. Their aggressive “MY religion or death!” pushing and posturing, trying to force themselves into the mainstream and control all has worked WAY too well.

There’ve been many religious movements and loud splashy public offensives before, but the evangelical jones to rule and control and subdue all its perceived competition for public allegiance AND, most important, dollars, was all-encompassing.

And they used all those contributions from the suckers - OOPS! I mean, the faithful - to build TV studios and radio studios and produce programming and content galore to run on every station, network, and platform they could find.

The aggressive evangelical movement really screwed our country, AND our democracy. We were set up to keep church and state SEPARATE. The evangeliCal movement hates that more than Satan, because they believe in power even more than they believe in love of God. And that’s REALLY what they “worship.” That’s why so many of ‘em gravitate toward trump. They basically believe power makes you god, when you boil it down to its essence.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
40. Yes. It is the human tragedy. The two greatest illusions
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:26 PM
Feb 2020

that beset our species, that keep us from 'growing up,' are the lust for power and the lust for wealth.

Get rid of those, and we can really make some progress.

Of course, those darned capitalists with their ideas on shareholder primacy will get in the way. In fact, if a movement begins for our species to shuck the greed and political ambition, the capitalists will certainly kill those in charge of that movement.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
43. You still depend on make believe as the basis of your faith. Your faith still says
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:31 PM
Feb 2020

to go out and evangelize the world to your cause.

Pity those who need religion as a spur to work for the betterment of humanity when good old secular humanism is sufficient.

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
46. You know nothing about my faith
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:35 PM
Feb 2020

Just as I would not ask you to change yourself or "evangelize" you, I don't think it's your place to tell me what is in my heart. Sorry, this thing cuts both ways.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
28. Not really.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:48 PM
Feb 2020

The ones you’re describing are the mostly white rabid Trump supporters who claim to be Christian while worshipping the devil named Trump. Some Christian denominations, like Episcopalians, actually are Christians.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
31. WOW, not to stereotypical ...
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:56 PM
Feb 2020

Nothing like throwing ALL Christians into the self-absorbed, self-aggrandizing elitists tent.

Turin_C3PO

(13,959 posts)
41. That's an ugly, ugly, remark.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:29 PM
Feb 2020

I’ve known plenty of decent Christians, most of them liberal and compassionate. Evangelicals aren’t the whole of Christianity.

flying_wahini

(6,589 posts)
13. Uh, 'pretend' Christians, you mean. Politicians just play like they are so they can get votes.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 11:59 AM
Feb 2020

I am an atheist and I act more like a Christian than they do.

EveDibb

(34 posts)
20. Typical
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:10 PM
Feb 2020

As a former Southern Baptist as I've always said I'd rather be in hell with the non-believers then in heaven with these hypocrites.


barbtries

(28,787 posts)
22. i don't believe they're overwhelmingly christian.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:16 PM
Feb 2020

i doubt many of them believe in gawd. they use religion, plus they are too cowardly to admit they are non-believers.

isn't there something in the bible about by their actions you will know them?

a more accurate telling would be that an overwhelming number of lawmakers profess to being christian. not that they are.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
25. Are you saying perhaps they are hypocrites?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020

And claim Christianity only for the votes? Why wouldn't that earn them a spot deep in the bowels of Hell?

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
34. According to Jesus, they're hypocrites
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

He told people not to stand on the corner spouting their piety like the hypocrites. (Paraphrasing here.)

VOX

(22,976 posts)
24. Satan wears three gallons of bronzer and sports a multi-directional comb-over.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:25 PM
Feb 2020

You’ll find him on Twitter or the golf course, or maybe bellowing clouds sulphuric bullshit at a “rally” where he feeds off the blind adoration of his ignorant, easily-duped worshippers.

To hell with him.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
27. National Association of Christian Lawmakers?
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:45 PM
Feb 2020

My ass. What a bunch of bullshit. Just another IRS avoidance scam. Investigate every single "charity" to ensure they are following the rules. That way the conservawhiners can't claim they are being singled out.

aggiesal

(8,910 posts)
29. This wasn't a clue of what to expect? ...
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:51 PM
Feb 2020
An attempt to raise $500,000 via GoFundMe stalled at less than $20,000,
more than half of which came from a single anonymous donor.


IDIOTS!

MissMillie

(38,548 posts)
33. I always thought that online polls were not scientific
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 12:59 PM
Feb 2020

and they could always use that excuse instead of blaming Satan

But then again... that would just prove the point that they were trying to use an un-scientific poll to back up their political position.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
38. I saw this.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:20 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe this 'overwhelming negative response' to this bible-thumping idiocy will carry through to the election in November.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
47. I have come to detest Christianity
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

One of the greatest forces for evil in the world. Instigator of countless wars, oppression, torture, and entrenched poverty for centuries. Its stupid religious tenets go unquestioned by the adherents. Between a virgin birth and Jesus escaping earth's gravity to ascend into heaven, wherever that is? Praying to an invisible sky god to wave his magic wand and suspend the laws of physics to grant people's prayers. They just seem to miss the whole point about practicing peace, tolerance, generosity, compassion, and forgiveness.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
53. I'm willing to consider that Twitter itself is the work of the Devil.
Tue Feb 18, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

And anyone who uses it is doing Satan's work.

Yeah, that makes sense.

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