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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:22 PM Feb 2020

Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Has there been a run on chloroquine yet? Forewarned is forearmed........... ??

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/32074550/

Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies.

Abstract
The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.

ETA: There are recent posts that question the above. Please see https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213042640

So some additional links:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220301145

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41587-020-00003-1

At least ten clinical trials are testing chloroquine, approved as an antimalarial and autoimmune disease drug. In vitro, the endosomal acidification fusion inhibitor blocked infection of a clinical isolate of SARS-CoV-2.

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations
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Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 (Original Post) intrepidity Feb 2020 OP
Stock up on Tonic water. Gin and Tonics for everyone! Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #1
Not gonna lie. That was my first thought intrepidity Feb 2020 #2
I have to wait util 2naSalit Feb 2020 #4
Quinine is in Tonic water? Blueplanet Feb 2020 #6
That's why Gin & Tonic became such a popular British drink in East India. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2020 #17
Regarding current U.S. tonic water: sl8 Mar 2020 #32
The gin & tonic is the only mixed drink where the alcohol was put in to hide the taste of the mixer Recursion Mar 2020 #33
My first thought! cwydro Feb 2020 #14
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #25
Shit, I used to have several bottles left over from deployment captain queeg Feb 2020 #3
Hey i, I'M FOLLOWING YOU AROUND it's true Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #5
Stock up on Good-N-Plenty meow2u3 Feb 2020 #7
You can get licorice root sdfernando Feb 2020 #10
I picked up some licorice root yesterday meow2u3 Mar 2020 #42
Be careful about so-called licorice candies - many of them are actually flavored with anise, scarletwoman Feb 2020 #12
I'm aware of it meow2u3 Feb 2020 #15
Oh good. Oddly enough, I'm actually allergic to real licorice, so when I find something scarletwoman Feb 2020 #18
Stock up on Stash (brand) Licorice Spice Herbal Tea duhneece Feb 2020 #9
Lol intrepidity Feb 2020 #21
That's a prescription drug Progressive dog Feb 2020 #8
Oh, I thought it was OTC, thank you, dog nt Leghorn21 Feb 2020 #11
Good god no. a la izquierda Mar 2020 #39
I stand ever so corrected, iz!! Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #41
I still have 7 anti-malaria tablets from my trip to Africa. Mine are sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #13
That's a much newer drug, and not the same thing. milestogo Feb 2020 #24
I'll have mine with vodka and a bit of lime, thank you. Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #16
Is this in all anti-malaria drugs? indigovalley Feb 2020 #19
Yes. The same drug. Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #23
Hmmm sounds common uponit7771 Mar 2020 #31
I was wondering the same as I also take plaquenil for lupus. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #35
Quinine was used for malaria. Mendocino Feb 2020 #20
Malaria drug. Rather unpleasant, as I recall. milestogo Feb 2020 #22
Seconded mahina Feb 2020 #30
Dreams like a Hieronymus Bosch painting (nt) Recursion Mar 2020 #34
Indeed. a la izquierda Mar 2020 #40
What about copper? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #26
This is a reliable source. Sounds promising. defacto7 Feb 2020 #27
Dang. I'm not a tonic fan. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #28
Fabulous! mahina Feb 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Mar 2020 #36
Has anyone found out if gin and tonic truly works for coronavirus? uponit7771 Mar 2020 #37
Not the kind we have in the US jmowreader Mar 2020 #38
On Rachel tonight, top epidemiologist in the U.S. recommended this. Said the U.S. isn't interested Native Mar 2020 #43

Blueplanet

(253 posts)
6. Quinine is in Tonic water?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:41 PM
Feb 2020

Quinine is used to treat malaria - it is an antimalarial drug. Had to look it up.

sl8

(13,749 posts)
32. Regarding current U.S. tonic water:
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:45 AM
Mar 2020

From Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt (or follow the sources):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_water


Tonic water

Tonic water (or Indian tonic water) is a carbonated soft drink in which quinine is dissolved. Originally used as a prophylactic against malaria, tonic water usually now has a significantly lower quinine content and is consumed for its distinctive bitter flavor, though it is nowadays also often sweetened. It is often used in mixed drinks, particularly in gin and tonic.

[...]

Quinine content

[...]

In the United States, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) limits the quinine content in tonic water to 83 ppm[3] (83 mg per liter if calculated by mass), while the daily therapeutic dose of quinine is in the range of 500–1000 mg,[4] and 10 mg/kg every eight hours for effective malaria prevention (2100 mg daily for a 70 kg adult).[5] It is often recommended as a relief for leg cramps, but medical research suggests some care is needed in monitoring doses.[6] Because of quinine's risks, the FDA cautions consumers against using "off-label" quinine drugs to treat leg cramps.[7]

[...]

[Footnotes:]

3. "21 CFR §172.575 Quinine" (PDF). Retrieved 15 December 2008.

4. "Quinine". Tropical Plant Database. Section "Current practical uses": Raintree Nutrition. Retrieved 10 July 2011.

5. Achan, J (2011). "Quinine, an old anti-malarial drug in a modern world: role in the treatment of malaria". Malaria Journal. 10 (144): 1–12. doi:10.1186/1475-2875-10-144. PMC 3121651. PMID 21609473.

[...]



More at link.





Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. The gin & tonic is the only mixed drink where the alcohol was put in to hide the taste of the mixer
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:01 AM
Mar 2020

Still popular in India

captain queeg

(10,183 posts)
3. Shit, I used to have several bottles left over from deployment
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020

Pretty sure I tossed them. Didn’t worry much about malaria in Afghanistan.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. Hey i, I'M FOLLOWING YOU AROUND it's true
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020


...meanwhile, I did a search a few days back, and found an article that said that licorice root has shown to possess anti-viral properties, hmmm, and vitamins A, C and E are good for our lung health

Thanks and carry on, i!! Keep telling us what you know!!

on edit: here's the link, which of course I can't really read, it's mighty scholarly!:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4629407/

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
7. Stock up on Good-N-Plenty
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:44 PM
Feb 2020

or other licorice items if you can tolerate them. I have no tolerance for table sugar or fructose, so I can't eat them without suffering later.
Question is, are there any sugar free licorice stuff I can pick up?

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
42. I picked up some licorice root yesterday
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

The Vitamin Store carries it, thank God. It costs about $10 for 100 capsules. You might want to go there if you can't find it elsewhere.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
12. Be careful about so-called licorice candies - many of them are actually flavored with anise,
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:09 PM
Feb 2020

and may contain no real licorice at all.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
15. I'm aware of it
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:27 PM
Feb 2020

I've seen "licorice flavored" candies and checked the ingredients only to discover the anise flavoring.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
18. Oh good. Oddly enough, I'm actually allergic to real licorice, so when I find something
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:46 PM
Feb 2020

flavored with anise, I know it's safe for me to eat.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
39. Good god no.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

And you don’t want to take it unless absolutely necessary. The side effects can be brutal. I’ve had to take it while traveling in Central and South America. I felt like hell.

indigovalley

(113 posts)
19. Is this in all anti-malaria drugs?
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:57 PM
Feb 2020

Jeez, I have Lupus and take Hydroxychloroquine 200 mg a day. Does that mean I have extra protection against Covid 19?

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
20. Quinine was used for malaria.
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:08 PM
Feb 2020

Quinine is the tonic, as in gin and tonic. The amount used in tonic for drinks is far too weak to be effective. Tonic syrup can be bought at places like Walmart and Target. The bark of the cinchona plant is the source.

Quinine has its own risks.


Ginger reportedly has anti-viral properties.

mahina

(17,646 posts)
29. Fabulous!
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

If I recall correctly, diarrhea, headaches, blurred vision, nausea, and really grumpy mood.

But breathing!

Response to intrepidity (Original post)

jmowreader

(50,556 posts)
38. Not the kind we have in the US
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020

Quinine has side effects and we don’t have much malaria here, so they put in just enough quinine to flavor the drink.

And don’t get the idea that you can make up for it by drinking more tonic water...you’d be into Water Intoxication territory (which can be fatal) before you drank enough tonic water to do anything for your malaria or coronavirus.

On the other hand, it’d have to work as well as anything Trump might suggest.

Native

(5,942 posts)
43. On Rachel tonight, top epidemiologist in the U.S. recommended this. Said the U.S. isn't interested
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:53 PM
Mar 2020

in it because it's so old it's not patentable. Surprised?

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