instead of advising how not to get cv, how about how not to spread it?

[mopinko]

Last edited Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

it strikes me that the subtle message of info so far is the self centered message of how not to get sick, yourself.

but i've seen little mention of how not to spread it. besides an offhand comment on the topic of masks, that those ones they give you in the doc's waiting room is that it keeps you from spreading it. but then poopoo the idea of wearing masks.
we should be telling people to get a couple of simple masks, and if you have any symptoms, wear the damn thing.

they are also spreading a bit of info that i dont agree w.
they say if you sneeze, to sneeze into your sleeve, your elbow. but then you wear that sleeve around for the rest of the day.
a young friend of mine went to the culinary institute, and they were told- sneeze into your hand, then immediately wash it. that makes much more sense.
sneezing down your shirt has also been mentioned, which is better, but not much.

but, how about telling people to carry a handkerchief? that's the ideal right there, but i guess they just arent a thing any more. but pocket packs of tissues, people.

a better descriptions of the typical course would also help. picking up those mild cases earlier is important. telling people that most people get over it is fine, but i am not hearing about the proper course of action. i feel like they are sending a message to tough it out, instead of one of- it's up to you sick people to do your best to keep it to yourself. here is what you need to do as soon as your nose starts itching.

also would like to hear it compared to the other cv's that we know of, which are cold bugs. when you say flu, despite repeatedly explaining that it is a respiratory illness, not "stomach flu", people would have a much better mental pic if you explained that this is a cold type virus, but more deadly.

selfish murika.


eta- et tu, du? 10 replies and 2 recs.
i rest my case.

[Mike 03]

1. One of the big problems with this virus is you can have it for almost

two weeks, or possibly longer, and not know you are infected and actively shedding virus.

Where there is widespread testing (in Asia, Italy and other places, but not yet in the US) up to 60% or more of those testing positive have NO symptoms.

So your point is good, but first you have to know you have it. Then you can isolate yourself.

What I read might be wrong, but it said that ordinary coughing/sneezing were not typical of COVID-19 and pointed more towards a regular cold or the early stages of typical influenza.

You probably know this, but others might not: colds and influenza present very differently. It's not hard to tell the difference.

[mopinko]

2. yeah, i think cdc released a guidance on the differing symptoms.

i dont remember exactly what they were, but i think it also said body aches were not common.

we do need so much more testing, but that doesnt negate making sure people know what to look for in themselves, and what.to.do.next.
i'm just really not hearing a message of even- this is how you keep your family safe if 1 gets sick, or this is what you can do to protect our healthcare workers.

[defacto7]

3. You make an excellent point.

We must be aware of the danger we can cause as well as danger to ourselves. Both work together for the safety of all.

[Mister Ed]

4. That's what I need to know.

I'm 63 years old, and my life is largely lived. I worry much more about the possibility that I could spread the illness to younger people than the possibility that I could die of it myself.

There's no question that the best way to keep from spreading the illness to others is to make sure I don't get it myself. But, failing that, I need to know where and how to convalesce without endangering others.

[C_U_L8R]

5. Too many on the subway just coughing in the air

Or going to work while sick. People need to get a clue. If you are sick with anything, stay home. If you have to go to the doctors, cover up. If you need food, get it delivered if you can. Don't get all your friends, coworkers, family and neighbors sick too

[mopinko]

6. i just heard cuomo say- nyc case didnt take public trans because, as a heatlhcare

worker, she was aware of the risk of doing that.

so, how come no one has said so far- if you possibly can, do not take public trans if you have any symptoms, or if someone you had close contact w is now sick.
bosses- if you send someone home from work, get them a ride home, w a mask on. schools, every boss.
maybe we need "bug wagons", to pick people up and take them home or to the hospital. we cant dump this on uber drivers.

[Ms. Toad]

7. Sneezing into a handkerchief is no better than sneezing into your hand.

The next time you grab your handkerchief you out all those terms on your hands.

[mopinko]

9. well, my assumption is that immediately after sneezing, you GO HOME.

and at least you can keep it in your pocket. put it in a ziploc. light it on fire.
the reason i say a hanky is that you can carry it around w you for a long time, as opposed to even an unopened personal pac of tissues. for me, anyway. i dont carry a purse, everything is in my pockets.

[Ms. Toad]

15. I have a spouse who uses hankies. They are extremely gross.

In your pocket is worse. That makes both your pocket and the hankie germ-filled, and even if you wash your hands, you reinfect every time you touch it again. (Which is precisely why carrying it around for a long time is a bac idea. Tissues are used once, tossed, then you clean your hands)

If my spouse went home every time she sneezed, she would never leave the house.

[Kaleva]

8. Much of it's the same.

The best way to avoid transmitting it to others is not to pick up the virus yourself.

[mopinko]

10. meh. much, but not all.

i mean, carry a hanky. that wont keep you from getting it, but it might keep those 3+ people you are likely to spread it to.
it really is different.

[Kaleva]

12. It's the same. If you don't have it, you can't spread it.

[mopinko]

13. your argument makes no sense.

if it's the same, additional perspective shouldnt bother you.
if it isnt, this is a valuable conversation.

why argue?

[Kaleva]

14. I'm just saying that the absolute best way not to spread the virus is to not get it yourself.

[mopinko]

11. another good tip i just saw- get some zinc lozenges.

this is my go to any time i have a cold, and it works. it is proven to work.
it dries up your whole sinus system which shuts down the mucus, therefore spread.

[Ms. Toad]

16. They don't' dry up the mucus system -

I've used them for every cold I've had since 1995. They are a miracle - I recommend them for anyone who suggests they have a cold, and they have saved me at least a two year's worth of sick time in the time I've used them, since they cut my month+ colds to 3 days. But they don't dry up my sinus system.