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CousinIT

(9,225 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:18 AM Mar 2020

White House overruled health officials who had urgent coronavirus warning for America's seniors

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/white-house-overruled-health-officials-who-had-urgent-coronavirus-warning-for-americas-seniors-report/

The Associated Press issued a bombshell report on Saturday evening that the White House overruled medical experts who had sought to issue a warning to America’s seniors.

“The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan this week as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan,” the AP reported.

“On Friday, the CDC quietly updated its website to tell older adults and people with severe medical conditions such as heart, lung or kidney disease to ‘stay home as much as possible’ and avoid crowds. It urges those people to ‘take actions to reduce your risk of exposure,’ but it doesn’t specifically address flying,” the AP noted. “Some experts this week said clearer and louder guidance should be made to vulnerable people, so they take every possible step to avoid settings where they might more easily become infected.”


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White House overruled health officials who had urgent coronavirus warning for America's seniors (Original Post) CousinIT Mar 2020 OP
I will hold Trump personally responsible if my mom dies Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 #1
Same Dem2 Mar 2020 #28
If this is what they do to their supporters, imagine what they'll do to others malaise Mar 2020 #2
Blood on their hands. spanone Mar 2020 #3
I see a class action lawsuit coming for Trump, Inc. in the future. rickyhall Mar 2020 #4
Yep. Wrongful death suits. But wnylib Mar 2020 #16
Jus damn ... jus ... damn !!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #5
There needs to be congressional grilling tomorrow C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #6
The GOP wants us to die; Incompetence is now malice bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #7
Yeah, it is dumbfounding how they are risking the lives of the very people Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #8
+100 great points. Their inability to carry out bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #10
So it seems. silverweb Mar 2020 #21
The orange clown can't control his, all is well message. sarcasmo Mar 2020 #9
It's an epidemic of Moronavirus! FakeNoose Mar 2020 #11
Idiocracy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #12
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #13
The three assholes in the picture and one of them that scammed Medicare...................... turbinetree Mar 2020 #14
Trump supporters now realize duforsure Mar 2020 #15
First do no harm. nt Sienna86 Mar 2020 #17
NEVER FORGET: The republicans had a chance to rid us of this menace and didn't. CrispyQ Mar 2020 #18
So what's to stop individuals or a group wnylib Mar 2020 #19
Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #20
Tom Perez, are you listening? GO FOR THE JUGULAR over this. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #22
This is part of the GOP's solution to Social Security's unfunded entitlements Pluvious Mar 2020 #23
Kicking for visibility love_katz Mar 2020 #24
If we were the nation we once were, there would be RIOTING IN THE STREETS. (nt) Paladin Mar 2020 #25
Been waiting for I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2020 #26
When I think of all the anti-war demonstrations in which I took part. Paladin Mar 2020 #27
Control the message. Not the disease. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #29

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
1. I will hold Trump personally responsible if my mom dies
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

My mom is just a great mom. She raises her 4 kids right and taught us everything we needed. She’s 77 now and the last several years have been tough for her health wise. She has basically no immune system and is hospitalized several times a year with one type of infection of another.

20 years ago she got turned by FOX News. It’s not something we talk about, but she’s a full on Trumpster. I called her the other day to talk to her about protecting herself from the Coronavirus. She is convinced it’s no big deal and won’t listen to me on ways to protect herself. She has very little chance of surviving it should she get it.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
28. Same
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

85 & has chronic asthma :/

Fortunately she is a lifelong liberal and thinks Rump is an idiot, even more so after showing her this headline right now.

malaise

(268,713 posts)
2. If this is what they do to their supporters, imagine what they'll do to others
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213056624

By the way Don the pee pee Con is defending his beautiful tests and perfect tests- he's tweeting again.
He's incapable of one iota of empathy - it's all about how this affects him.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
4. I see a class action lawsuit coming for Trump, Inc. in the future.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 09:48 AM
Mar 2020

Lock him up & his take laundered cash.

wnylib

(21,345 posts)
16. Yep. Wrongful death suits. But
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:37 AM
Mar 2020

SCOTUS will protect him with a ruling that he can't be sued for actions taken in the capacity of his office.

C_U_L8R

(44,990 posts)
6. There needs to be congressional grilling tomorrow
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:00 AM
Mar 2020

and immediate impeachment/firing of every corrupt or incompetent Trump stooge. Lives are on the line.

Farmer-Rick

(10,140 posts)
8. Yeah, it is dumbfounding how they are risking the lives of the very people
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:07 AM
Mar 2020

Who voted for them.

Just vote for us and we'll not tell you when pandemics are here. Worried about the coronavirus? Vote for us and we'll pretend you won't die. Let us control your government, and we won't test and won't tell you about a pandemic......ok no more Trump/Pence voter slogans.

Also they need to tell folks NOT to go on cruises. I can't believe people are still having trouble getting their money back from the cruise corporations soo they go on the deadly cruise anyway.

And it seems the death rate is higher as you get older. Even just being over 60 ups the death rate to 6 to 7 percent.

Will Pence and Trump get sick? What about that 50+ year old Slovenian sex worker of Trump's? She has kidney disease. If I were her, I would take my family back to Slovenia. They are taking active measures to protect their citizens and haven't gotten a single death ......yet. They only have tested 800 cases as far as I can tell.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
10. +100 great points. Their inability to carry out
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:17 AM
Mar 2020

basic governmental strategies to protect the population, is just so hard to grasp. The entire GOP is both a failed and evil empire.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
21. So it seems.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:12 PM
Mar 2020

One thing reTHUGs are very good at is turning a negative into effective propaganda to achieve their hidden goals. (See Shock Doctrine.)

Sabotaging/disallowing testing, hiding the real numbers, and not warning those who are especially vulnerable are ways to purge many of the elderly and frail, i.e., the "useless eaters," to use a borrowed phrase. The elderly, the handicapped, and the sick were sent to very efficient "Killing Centers" by the Nazis because they were unfit for labor. Now Trump's maladministration gets to do the same thing, at least in part, just by allowing COVID-19 to spread untested and unchecked. I don't believe for one second that they're not capable of it, either.

That is evil and a crime, and everyone needs to be reminded of it daily. Let COVID-19 be Donny's Doom.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
14. The three assholes in the picture and one of them that scammed Medicare......................
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:29 AM
Mar 2020

and gets fucking elected...............................three fuck heads ................................


November 3, 2020 and January 3, 2021 cannot get here fast enough.................

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
15. Trump supporters now realize
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

With how horribly bad trump and this administration have done with handling the worse national health threat this country has had in our life. They also hear his lies, this is under control and contained while he promotes the same propaganda Putin is promoting. Trump has silenced health officials , and knowing its propaganda he's putting out endangering the American people shows he really could care less and instead goes golfing, again, in a time of this health crisis.

wnylib

(21,345 posts)
19. So what's to stop individuals or a group
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

from buying ad space to get the word out to people on what we need to know?

Ads could just report the news facts, e.g. "The CDC wants you to have this information. Donald Trump believes that you don't need it. You decide." Then guve out tge suppressed info.

It would be most credible to listeners, watchers, and readers if it comes from a reluable medical source, not a political one.

Some of us remember the time during the Vietnam war when evening newscasts began reporting 2 sets of figures for the number if dead and wounded Americans in Vietnam. One set was the official government release. The other set came from witnesses on the ground.

Sometimes you have to do an end run around disinformation. Never more important than now.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
22. Tom Perez, are you listening? GO FOR THE JUGULAR over this.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

If markets continue to tank and Bloomberg does indeed go scorched earth after Trump's grifter kids, it's gotta be over for Dirty Don.

Pluvious

(4,305 posts)
23. This is part of the GOP's solution to Social Security's unfunded entitlements
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:23 PM
Mar 2020

Just as "Die Quickly" was their answer to healthcare solution (Alan Greyson).

They are a cruel and evil sect.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
26. Been waiting for
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

The riots for years...but they never happen anymore.why? A hell of a lot of damage has been done.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
27. When I think of all the anti-war demonstrations in which I took part.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020

I keep warning people---trump is going to keep doing all this shit until he's SCARED into relenting. We're not giving him and his idiot followers enough reason to STOP. It's not as if murmuring reasonable persuasion in calm tones is going to do the trick.

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