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Cenk Uygur at the airport. What kind of adult acts this way? (Original Post) George II Mar 2020 OP
An asshole for all seasons, not just on the air. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
My thoughts on! True Blue American Mar 2020 #3
Almost didn't read this Ferryboat Mar 2020 #22
What a jerk. Reminds me of a funny story GusBob Mar 2020 #2
That would have shut True Blue American Mar 2020 #7
Those decisions are not made by gate agents. He's a sadistic bully and an asshole dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
Hangry Hangry Hippo OhNo-Really Mar 2020 #5
A union busting misogynist tishaLA Mar 2020 #6
Whadda Dick! TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #8
Somebody, please put him on a plane with a box of donuts. Ilsa Mar 2020 #9
And there were some here who seriously suggested he run for POTUS or be a VP ... marble falls Mar 2020 #10
This is awful. liberalmuse Mar 2020 #11
I used to volunteer at helpline/shelter for battered women. Cenk has always reminded me of hlthe2b Mar 2020 #12
What a jerk. Rorey Mar 2020 #13
Somebody change his diaper! Leith Mar 2020 #14
Aren't there restaurants in that airport? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2020 #15
This appears to be from 3 years ago? n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #16
And? Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #41
It's one thing to share oldies but goodies - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #51
Where did you see a time stamp? It is all over Rose twitter today thx. irisblue Mar 2020 #47
Here's one of the videos on YouTube Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #49
I hope they called security... Trueblue Texan Mar 2020 #17
See my post #18. Hilarious. And the clown posted the second video, too. George II Mar 2020 #19
Someone found a follow up to this video - THEY KICKED HIM OFF THE PLANE!!!!! See second video: George II Mar 2020 #18
Yes, Cenk! It IS unbelievable! Trueblue Texan Mar 2020 #20
HA! He derseved to be kicked off. PunkinPi Mar 2020 #21
Good call. dalton99a Mar 2020 #28
Wonderful! True Blue American Mar 2020 #29
In my perfect world, the boys in the front office see the video... Brother Buzz Mar 2020 #40
Gotta be honest.... I think his behavior was reasonable and justified. Goodheart Mar 2020 #23
Screaming and cursing and badgering is NOT reasonable or justified. George II Mar 2020 #24
He didn't curse at any of the agents. Goodheart Mar 2020 #26
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #31
Who said they were disrespectful? True Blue American Mar 2020 #34
VERY disrespectful not to give him the information to which he's entitled. Goodheart Mar 2020 #38
Mulvaney and Trump deserve it! True Blue American Mar 2020 #46
WTF! Wow! USALiberal Mar 2020 #25
Nah. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #27
His first mistake True Blue American Mar 2020 #33
I think that text was added by somebody else JHB Mar 2020 #42
I understand his frustration. True Blue American Mar 2020 #45
I've been in that kind of situation too. Not on planes, but on trains JHB Mar 2020 #48
We were grateful True Blue American Mar 2020 #50
To me, that was harassment. He got what should have been coming to him. Jarqui Mar 2020 #30
I have never True Blue American Mar 2020 #35
The vast majority are just people like you and me Jarqui Mar 2020 #37
Thank you! True Blue American Mar 2020 #44
No, he is Dead wrong. True Blue American Mar 2020 #32
Act that way? Goodheart Mar 2020 #39
Cenk said in True Blue American Mar 2020 #52
I agree rockfordfile Mar 2020 #63
Look at the bright side: at least he wasn't union busting tishaLA Mar 2020 #36
HEY Cenk, go fuck youself. spanone Mar 2020 #43
I flew American last weekend and my phylny Mar 2020 #53
Several years ago I flew on Delta from Bradley/Springfield (Connecticut) to Atlanta to Columbia SC.. George II Mar 2020 #56
Yes! phylny Mar 2020 #59
I remember being stuck at JFK for a last leg treestar Mar 2020 #64
What a jerk. If there were a museum of buttholes yonder Mar 2020 #54
BS 'campaign top material' empedocles Mar 2020 #60
To those who think he was justified... LakeArenal Mar 2020 #55
Fuck that guy. Blue Owl Mar 2020 #57
Heard someone yelling behind him, too: "Lie after lie!" Beartracks Mar 2020 #58
What the actual hell is wrong with people? Lunabell Mar 2020 #61
They should have called the Cops on him. Eko Mar 2020 #62

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
1. An asshole for all seasons, not just on the air.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:32 AM
Mar 2020

He's abusive to airline employees who have no control over the situation. Apparently there was a mechanical problem. Does he want to fly on a broken airplane?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
3. My thoughts on!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:37 PM - Edit history (1)

What a pompous ass to browbeat people who have no control over a plane having mechanical problems!

A Supervisor or head of Security should have been called. You can not deal with people like him.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. What a jerk. Reminds me of a funny story
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:35 AM
Mar 2020

Guy ranting at an airline counter: DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM..?
Agent at the counter picks up intercom microphone: ATTENTION ON THE CONCOURSE! We have a gentleman here who does not know who he is"

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
7. That would have shut
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:46 AM
Mar 2020

Hm up. Ridicule works. That is what Bloomberg is doing to Trump.

On a golf course in Florida instead of working to combat the virus. I can not wait to hear Seth on that!

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
6. A union busting misogynist
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:44 AM
Mar 2020

who couldn't even crack 5% in his recent primary. That's the kind of person who behaves that way.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
9. Somebody, please put him on a plane with a box of donuts.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:51 AM
Mar 2020

By himself. Tow it back from the gate. Let it sit until mid-August.


What an asshole.

marble falls

(57,079 posts)
10. And there were some here who seriously suggested he run for POTUS or be a VP ...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:53 AM
Mar 2020

He's still a Republican inside.

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
12. I used to volunteer at helpline/shelter for battered women. Cenk has always reminded me of
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:57 AM
Mar 2020

the stereotypical abusive personality. I'm not saying he abuses women, though I absolutely maintain he's an insecure REACTIVE misogynist, which certainly explains a lot of his hatred toward Hillary Clinton in 2016 and since.

Maybe this and his taking part in the overt Sanders "paint Biden as senile/demented" campaign will finally wake up a lot of supposed Dems/progressives.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
14. Somebody change his diaper!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:09 AM
Mar 2020

Give him a bottle and settle him down for a nap.

This is the kind of person who shouts abuse at someone whose care has broken down on the road.

Flight problems and delays happen to everyone eventually. Airline employees are not doing it to irritate people for any reason. Grow the fuck up, Cenk.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
51. It's one thing to share oldies but goodies -
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

It is another to post a video that is years old without an explanation that it is not a current event. Most of the people in the thread seem to believe it just happened.

Look at all of the suggestions about what should happen to him. I've seen only one other poster acknolwedge that this is a 2016 video. Even the ones who posted the follow-ups seem to think they are follow-ups in the present.

And, if nothing else, the only category this fits in from the TOS would be current events (issues, politics, and current events). It's not a current event.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
21. HA! He derseved to be kicked off.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:53 AM
Mar 2020

Also, if he was so hangry, why didn't he just go to the Starbucks behind him (20 seconds into the second video)?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
29. Wonderful!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

As Paul Harvey used to say,” And now, for the rest of the story!”

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

I have had to deal with a few like him.

Brother Buzz

(36,419 posts)
40. In my perfect world, the boys in the front office see the video...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

and ban him from ever flying American Airlines again....and when he sues, the other airlines step up and stand in solidarity with AA and extended an unwelcome.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
23. Gotta be honest.... I think his behavior was reasonable and justified.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

Airplane passengers deserve information and truth, and if the gate agents don't have it then somebody higher up should make sure that they do. It could very well be that somebody in that crowd does not want or even can not physically wait any further, who might instead be better accommodated by making alternative arrangements.

I generally do not like Cenk Ungur, and I don't like him here, either, but he's correct.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
26. He didn't curse at any of the agents.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:01 PM
Mar 2020

And yes, sorry, raising your voice to somebody who has been totally disrespectful of your needs and your questions (as they and American were) IS justified.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
38. VERY disrespectful not to give him the information to which he's entitled.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

This is a funny thread, actually.

If a reporter seeking information had been raising his voice at Mulvaney or Barr or trump, and in turn got shunned for it, there would be general applause here.

I'm saying all this despite the fact that I don't like Cenk Uygur. But correct is correct.

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
27. Nah.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020

He was wrong. We also don't know what else he said that he didn't think was YouTube worthy, and he apparently got kicked off his flight so this clearly wasn't everything.

There's more to the story and what we know is bad enough. It's also not an isolated event.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
33. His first mistake
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:54 PM
Mar 2020

Was saying,” The plane had mechanical trouble!” He admitted he knew what the problem was. Common sense was missing in Cenk.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
42. I think that text was added by somebody else
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020

I'm not defending him, it's just that I remember this from when it happened (2016?) and I'm pretty sure what he put up (on his own account, not the other person with the tweet in the OP) was raw phone footage, not with text edited in.

I fully understand the aggravation when "about 20 minutes" repeatedly stretches, but publicly throwing a tantrum like that isn't going to speed things up and makes it worse for everyone.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
45. I understand his frustration.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:26 PM
Mar 2020

When leaving on a Cruise from Mexico we kept missing planes due to weather but I understood the agents were doing everything they could to help. We ended in Acapulco 15 minutes before our ship left. That was one fun ride through Acapulco, but not once did I blame the agent or act like Cenk did. Today it is funny. The Cruise was great even though I was attacked by 2 Aunt Jemimas in Columbia. A man rescued me.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
48. I've been in that kind of situation too. Not on planes, but on trains
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:07 PM
Mar 2020

No amount of yelling at the crew is going to get you where you're going any faster, and may even slow things down if the company decides that a disruptive person needs to be removed before proceeding.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
30. To me, that was harassment. He got what should have been coming to him.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

People do not design situations like this to screw their customers intentionally.
Something unexpected happened: a mistake, a technical problem, etc

The people behind that desk probably did not know much more than the passengers. Maybe the plane they announced was on its way also broke down. Who knows?

The reason I went into business for myself is so that I didn't have to deal with assholes. It wasn't motivated by greed.

But loudly jack-hammering the staff with the same question over and over and over is not appropriate, going to get his plane there much sooner, etc. That type of behavior should always be a last resort. It suggests that Cenk is probably not a very god manager of people because he skips a whole suite of buttons he could push before it ever got to that stage. And in this case, that stage should never be required under any circumstances. You should be able to get what you need to know a lot sooner in a much more civil manner if you have any decent people skills.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
35. I have never
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

Had an agent be rude to me. Maybe it is because I put myself in their shoes and treat them with respect.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
37. The vast majority are just people like you and me
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

They didn't sabotage the plane or screw up.

Something else happened and they're stuck on the front lines having to deal with it.

Most of us who have worked for another company and dealt with customer complaints have been there.

That crap he put them through is stressful & upsetting. And not necessary.

Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world where everything always runs on time.
But you don't need to distress those who are not directly responsible because your number came up as someone who was going to get their travel delayed.

Too bad I wasn't there "That plane kind of ran like your campaign ... it's never gonna take off" Then, he would have some justification.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
44. Thank you!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:18 PM
Mar 2020

I have had to deal with many just like Cenk. That is why I put myself in the shoes of the person helping me.

There was no excuse for Cenks actions, none. It was bullying at it’s worst of those who can not fight back. His video made it worse.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
32. No, he is Dead wrong.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020

An intelligent person would never act that way towards lowly agents that had no control over a plane having mechanical problems!

I have stepped in a few times when a customer was abusing a Clerk! Shocking how the clerk is happy I did. There is no excuse for his tirade and I am glad they kicked him off the plane.

Cenk was obnoxious on MSNBC. A real blowhard, just like Trump.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
39. Act that way?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

You mean by asking questions in a loud voice?

He didn't insult them, he didn't call them names, he didn't threaten them. He asked for information to which he's entitled.

American Airlines (who sucks, by the way) is at fault here. If the agents had simply given the customers a credible rundown of what the plan of action was going to be, instead of merely telling them there was a mechanical problem with their assigned plane, then my assessment would be different. As it stands, somebody who is made to wait four hours in the dark is entitled to anger. Sorry.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
52. Cenk said in
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:15 PM
Mar 2020

The very first part of his rant they were told the plane had a mechanical problem. He knew what was wrong.

He is an arrogant bully, no matter how you try to excuse him. Typical Ugly American. He won 5% in his Primary. The voters must know him,too.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
53. I flew American last weekend and my
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

8-hour door to door from Lynchburg to Charlotte to White Plains became a 13-hour trip with Chicago inserted into the mix. It was annoying as hell, but I managed to thank the person at the counter who helped me change my flights.

George II

(67,782 posts)
56. Several years ago I flew on Delta from Bradley/Springfield (Connecticut) to Atlanta to Columbia SC..
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:27 PM
Mar 2020

I got to Atlanta at 8:15 AM, on time. There was no plane at the gate for the Atlanta to Columbia flight, which was to leave around 9:00 AM, should have arrived before 10:00..

They brought in a plane but we didn't board it because there was a mechanical failure. Sent us to another gate where a prop-jet was waiting. Boarded (about 2 hours late) and took off fine. The pilot told us we were returning to the airport because there was a problem with the left engine - I looked over and saw it was shut down!

Ever land on a runway lined with fire trucks and ambulances on both sides?

So they brought in a THIRD plane for us, we boarded but before the door was closed ANOTHER mechanical problem, we had to get off.

By this time it was almost 3:00 (I'd been at the airport seven hours). I decided to rent a car and drove for three hours to Columbia, got there 9 hours after I was supposed to!

phylny

(8,380 posts)
59. Yes!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020

I could’ve driven from my house to Westchester County New York in eight or nine hours. I chose to fly because we have been back-and-forth visiting my father in rehab and we had just been there the Sunday before, driving back Monday. I did not want to drive on Saturday having just driven earlier in the week. Now, I will reevaluate my choices, possibly just driving to Charlotte to eliminate the regional airport.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
64. I remember being stuck at JFK for a last leg
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

JFK to Philadelphia. There was a storm in Chicago, which meant planes that would have been at JFK did not get there. We waited like 6 hours. Should have done what you did!

yonder

(9,664 posts)
54. What a jerk. If there were a museum of buttholes
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

he would be featured. Maybe not up there with the tRumps, Pompeo's and Stone's but he would be on the same floor. What's his name Shkrelli would be right up there too.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
55. To those who think he was justified...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

What about the other 200 passengers who are also frustrated, tired and, hungry who have the added annoyance of some braying ass? I don’t understand why any of those didn’t tell him to just shut up. Mr Lake would tell him to shut the hell up. Cenk might try to slug him and that is a sacrifice Mr Lake would be proud to make.

Blue Owl

(50,355 posts)
57. Fuck that guy.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020

He's hungry and tired?

Last time I checked, there were always plenty of places to eat and chairs to rest in at the airport...

Grow up, ya big baby...

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
58. Heard someone yelling behind him, too: "Lie after lie!"
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:31 PM
Mar 2020

Someone with him? Or maybe he's actually getting the crowd agitated. One butthead acting out like this is certain to encourage other people with no shame to do something similar.

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Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
61. What the actual hell is wrong with people?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:55 PM
Mar 2020

It isn't the guy behind the counter's fault. He needs to calm down!

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