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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBest article I've seen so far on hand cleansing to remove and destroy viruses....
with what appears to be scientific credibility.
Deadly viruses are no match for plain, old soap heres the science behind it
Published: March 8, 2020 at 10:42 a.m. ET
By Palli Thordarson
Soap works better than alcohol and disinfectants at destroying the structure of viruses
Read it here: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/deadly-viruses-are-no-match-for-plain-old-soap-heres-the-science-behind-it-2020-03-08?mod=home-page
(snips)
That sounds scientific. Let me explain.
Soap dissolves the fat membrane, and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and dies, or rather, it becomes inactive as viruses arent really alive. Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days.
Disinfectants, or liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol (and soap) have a similar effect but are not as good as regular soap. Apart from alcohol and soap, antibacterial agents in those products dont affect the virus structure much. Consequently, many antibacterial products are basically just an expensive version of soap in how they act on viruses. Soap is the best, but alcohol wipes are good when soap is not practical or handy, for example in office reception areas.
KY.................
SCantiGOP
(13,867 posts)My daughter is a nurse; she had told me this.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)magicarpet
(14,127 posts)Blue Owl
(50,291 posts)n/t
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,271 posts)Response to relayerbob (Reply #2)
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liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Making soap is one of my hobbies. You can't get anti-bacterial wipes right now where I live, so this is good to know. You'd think there would be a soap shortage, too, but no. People are grabbing mass quantities of TP and bottled water instead.
Wednesdays
(17,321 posts)You don't want to have to drag yourself to the store with a fever of 102 if you're out of toilet paper.
But water? Just get it from the tap! What do they think they're preparing for? Armageddon!?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,623 posts)because if he did, the fat membrane would dissolve and he'd fall apart like a house of cards?
Maraya1969
(22,464 posts)malaise
(268,734 posts)diva77
(7,630 posts)they are known to cause bacteria to become resistant
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-antibacterial-products-may-do-more-harm-than-good/
malaise
(268,734 posts)and use them more then than now.
Thanks for that link
diva77
(7,630 posts)CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Wash frequently and dont touch your face!
Disaffected
(4,547 posts)Resistant bacteria and possibly kids who grow up with allergies.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)transit centers, parks, grocery stores, gas/service/convenience stores, and cinemas, among other places.
Ive seen these outdoor hand washing stations at the Gulf Shores National Seashore public beachside pavilions. There was running water, soap, paper towels and hand sanitizer. It was located next to the portable toilets.
These could be easily placed in public areas. The stations could be connected to an existing hose bib for a potable water source. Of course, a back flow preventer device would be required.
There are units that connect directly to existing water and sewer utilities.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/polyjohn-sk3-3000-applause-portable-hand-washing-sink-with-direct-connection/621SK33000.html
Amazon has lots of portable hand washing stations:
https://www.amazon.com/slp/portable-handwashing-station/jpvajvvjbooh5p7
4now
(1,596 posts)Be sure to check your sources.
thecrow
(5,519 posts)I live alone, so do I have wash my hands all day? I always wash them before eating anything, and I wash my food too. After w have gone outside or in the garden... I have a good scrub. Lately my skin is getting very dry from all the soap. Where do I draw the line?
Disaffected
(4,547 posts)after washing. I use Lubriderm.
Talitha
(6,564 posts)Try filling empty Visine bottles with olive oil.
Towel dry your hands, and then use 5 drops of it.
It doesn't contain fragrance or drying alcohol.
Be sure it doesn't go rancid, though... P.U.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)It's only after you have been out in public places in parts of the nation where the disease has been confirmed to be spreading. If so, wash up good after you get home and then use a good moisturizing lotion such as CeraVe.
Unfortunately, visitors with an unknown history along with the mailman, repair service people and delivery people may need to be cleaned up after, but just surfaces they've touched.
There's none of the disease in my immediate area, so I'm more concerned with the flu.
KY...........
thecrow
(5,519 posts)Keep on scrubbin !
Talitha
(6,564 posts)Sounds logical to me.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)Just remember the soap just captures the viruses and starts their destruction. We still have to rinse them away down the drain.
We shouldn't have to worry in our homes unless someone there is infected, or someone has been out in public in an infected area who has not washed up and then touched things in the house.
KY..........
Talitha
(6,564 posts)I'm in rural WI where lots of Chicago folks vacation, and they shop at the stores in town. There's no way to totally avoid the imported germs etc, so it's good to know that proper use of soap will do the trick.
Thanks again!