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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***Oil prices plummet ***31%*** at start of trading Sunday***
Does everything have to happen at once?
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(1,718 posts)brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)That is not good. The only question is how severe will the TrumpRecession be?
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)prices in the US change much except the price at the pump will go down a bit, the oil companies will feel it though. This is to hurt Putin.
"Russia seems to be the target of this price war. But as Saudi Arabia tries to grab market share with bargain-basement prices, American oil and gas producers, including the fracking industry, will also feel pain."
"U.S. consumers are likely to see lower prices at the gas pump, but American oil producers who lead the world in output could be hurt by the oil price slide".
Maeve
(42,271 posts)underpants
(182,603 posts)They can take damage.
Lower prices help Trump. ?
Maeve
(42,271 posts)That's the goal
Yet Russia has resisted calls for production cuts. On Friday, the talks ended in failure. OPEC and its allies announced no new reductions and didn't even commit to extending current cuts.
So, Saudi Arabia is doing an about face. If it can't get the price back up, it's going to drive the price way down. It's offering to cut the oil price for the U.S. market by $7 per barrel, to Europe by $8 and Asia by $6. Paired with Saudi Arabia's ability to rapidly increase production flooding the market with cheap crude those unilateral price cuts will push the price of oil down for everyone.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/08/813439501/saudi-arabia-stuns-world-with-massive-discount-in-oil-sold-to-asia-europe-and-u-
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Maeve
(42,271 posts)And I feel for those hit by the fallout. Lived in OKC for a while and lost our first house during an oil bust in the mid-1980's (had to move, no one would buy, deed-in-lieu of foreclosure)
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)Lower gas helps me because I drive a lot.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)In response, Saudi Arabia over the weekend slashed crude prices and is preparing to increase production, in a direct attack against Russias market share, the Wall Street Journal reported.
Analysts said a price war could push crude prices down to $30 a barrel, especially as the economic slowdown caused by the coronavirus outbreak slows global demand.
brokephibroke
(1,883 posts)Demovictory9
(32,421 posts)Calculating
(2,955 posts)This is NOT GOOD. Say what you will about gas prices, but a lot of people own oil stocks or work in the domestic oil industry. I wouldn't be shocked to see hundreds of domestic fracking/drilling companies go under, and lots of people are losing their shirt on oil stocks now.
Demovictory9
(32,421 posts)2naSalit
(86,323 posts)DFW
(54,281 posts)The Euro was at $1.08 last week. The dollar is down six cents in a WEEK.
Gold is shooting skyward, already briefly passed $1700 an ounce, and is still within $5 of there in early far east trading, where it is already Monday morning.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)ooky
(8,907 posts)and consumer goods. Don't know if its going to work though with short term with supply chain disruptions and business slowdowns from coronavirus fear.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)It will bankrupt our domestic oil industry and put thousands out of their jobs.
ooky
(8,907 posts)I don't know if it will bankrupt, but it will take a big hit it doesn't need to take in my opinion and just make a bad situation worse. Frankly, none of these artificial actions, i.e., lower oil prices or lower interest rates are going to stop the decline in the stock market because none of them address the root cause of the decline - the fear of a potentially chronic global economic slow down due to business disruptions caused by the virus.
Volaris
(10,266 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)that they wanted OPEC+ (which includes Russia) to cut the production to reduce the supply, in order to bring the prices up and Russia (and the rest) refused. So they are going to make them "pay" for not going along with the strategy.