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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"He's definitely melting down over this": Trump, germaphobe, struggles to control crisis
Publicly, he sees it as yet another (Fake News) media war; privately, he worries about virus-carrying journalists on Air Force One. But cancel his rallies? Im not going to do it, he says.
BY GABRIEL SHERMAN
MARCH 9, 2020
Ever since the coronavirus exploded outside of China at the end of January, Donald Trump has treated the public health crisis as a media war that he could win with the right messaging. But with cases now documented in 34 states and markets plunging, Republicans close to Trump fear his rosy assessments are fundamentally detached from reality in ways that will make the epidemic worse. He is trying to control the narrative and he cant, a former West Wing official told me.
The problem is that the crisis fits into his preexisting and deeply held worldviewthat the media is always searching for a story to bring him down. Covid-19 is merely the latest instance, and hes reacting in familiar ways. So much FAKE NEWS! Trump tweeted this morning. He wants Justice to open investigations of the media for market manipulation, a source close to the White House told me. Trump is also frustrated with his West Wing for not getting a handle on the news cycle. Hes very frustrated he doesnt have a good team around him, a former White House official said. On Friday he forced out acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and replaced him with former House Freedom Caucus chair Mark Meadows. Trump thought the virus was getting beyond Mick, a person briefed on the internal discussions said. Trump has also complained that economic adviser Larry Kudlow is not doing enough to calm jittery markets. Last week Kudlow refused Trumps request that Kudlow hold an on-camera press briefing, sources said. Larry didnt want to have to take questions about coronavirus, a person close to Kudlow told me. Larrys not a doctor. How can he answer questions about something he doesnt know?
Trump found a willing surrogate in Kellyanne Conway, but Conways dubious claim on Friday that the virus is being contained only made the P.R. situation worse.
Trumps efforts to take control of the story himself have so far failed. A source said Trump was pleased with ratings for the Fox News town hall last Thursday, but he was furious with how he looked on television. Trump said afterwards that the lighting was bad, a source briefed on the conversation said. He said, We need Bill Shine back in here. Bill would never allow this.
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Stories about Trumps coronavirus fears have spread through the White House. Last week Trump told aides hes afraid journalists will try to purposefully contract coronavirus to give it to him on Air Force One, a person close to the administration told me. The source also said Trump has asked the Secret Service to set up a screening program and bar anyone who has a cough from the White House grounds. Hes definitely melting down over this, the source said.
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renate
(13,776 posts)He's a superfluid by now.
lame54
(35,284 posts)He raw dogs porn stars
He shakes hands during an epedemic
He is denying this is even happening
Quit accepting this lie
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)My bet is that he immediately sanitizes his hands after shaking hands.
Not every germaphobe cares about their dick getting germs on it.
Phobias are weird things that are very specific to the person.
lame54
(35,284 posts)The clip this morning shows him shaking many many hands like he's throwing in our faces
Another own the libs moment
Signaling to his cult that this isn't really happening
Arrogant, vindictive, callous - that I believe
Germaphobe?- HELL NO!
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)are compelling enough.
Someone who frets about heights all the time, normally ... decides to ride the elevator up the Eiffel Tower on their first trip to Europe, because they've always wanted to go up the Eiffel Tower. That sort of thing does happen ... it doesn't mean they don't have the phobia.
I agree he's completely full of shit in general, but this particular claim has been confirmed by lots of different people. We're not just taking his word on it (which means jackshit, as you point out).
lame54
(35,284 posts)Trump inviting this virus to spread
This is not a dirty lever that Trump has to find the courage to pull to save all of humanity
This is him being told to NOT shake hands and him going out and spitefully shaking more hands
And your only proof is testimony from the liars that he surrounds himself with
He is not a germaphobe
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm saying I'd not be at all surprised if he actually is. The evidence you've presented against it ... I don't find entirely compelling.
All phobias have 'degrees', you know? There's people who worry about germs obsessively, but don't clean their hands immediately after touching anything in their surroundings. And then there's some that have it so bad they HAVE to clean their hands after touching practically anything. There's people who refuse to use a towel to dry their hands, they have to have a paper towel. Others will use a towel to dry one time, but then they throw it in the wash machine.
There really isn't one solitary definition of 'phobia'. It's an inherently nebulous term, in fact. The manifestations can be different in different people.
But you can go head on and be 100% certain that you're right if you want to
lame54
(35,284 posts)I simply don't believe him
He probably drinks too
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Here's another thing ... phobia's are generally viewed as being defective or weak, people tend to ridicule people w/phobias.
Trump hates being seen as weak, and it provides him no advantage to admit to this.
You might say, well the Russia thing, but he's been saying this since 2007 at least ...
I'll leave it at that, we can agree to disagree
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)everyone to believe he's a germaphobe.
As an idiot, he's selective in defining germs. Otherwise, he wants his wives to believe he's incapable of rawdogging and or getting off on golden showers.
lame54
(35,284 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That he gets off on doing the showering, not being showered.
That's a far more logical presumption based on his overall personality.
Could still be wrong, but like I say ... I'd give ya real good odds to bet against me
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)All the man EVER thinks about ... is Trump.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)so he does not appear to be too much of a germaphobe.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But only if Natalie was standing there with wipes for him to use immediately afterwards.
I would guess that Trump is the same sort of dude.
Quite a few people have claimed he's germaphobic, it's not just him.
That said, I don't really get why it's terribly important either way.
You can easily bet that, as much of a power-mad narcissist as he is, he really hates being sick. And he's probably deathly afraid of catching a sickness that could kill him ... most people are pretty afraid of that.
pecosbob
(7,537 posts)So his rallies will become coronavirus hot-spots...cuz Merica, fuk yeah.
smb
(3,471 posts)Gee, Doofus, maybe you'd have a better team if you selected tough competent people instead of pathetic ass-kissers.
manhattan123
(302 posts)"..."Trump was pleased with ratings for the Fox News town hall last Thursday, but he was furious with how he looked on television. Trump said afterwards that the lighting was bad, a source briefed on the conversation said."
lol
I guess those evil LED bulbs were out in force again.
Has he actually ever seen himself on TV before? Or in a mirror?