"Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official 'safe distance' and stay in air for 30 minutes..."

[Kaleva]

"Authorities advise people to stay 1-2 metres apart, but researchers found that a bus passenger infected fellow travellers sitting 4.5 metres away
The scientists behind the research said their investigation also highlighted the importance of wearing face masks because of the length of time it can linger"

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

[dalton99a]

1. "'A' did not wear a mask, nor did most of the other passengers or the driver"

[Ms. Toad]

6. Even if the seating chart accurately describes infected patients

I want to know what steps were taken to rule out other avenues of infection for the 8 new patients. As many people as there were who were infected in China, how do they know this specific bus trip was what caused these people to be infected? How do they know tha the pink passenger was infected by the initial person 30 minutes after the initial carrier disembarked - and not by some other vector?

[Captain Zero]

29. study assumes there was no other UNKNOWN active carrier(s) on board.

I think the safest assumption right now is that there are more people out there with it than we known, primarily because of the lack of testing kits. we just don't know the extent of the spread really.

[OhNo-Really]

2. If eyes not covered as well mask not a protection

Seems like we can’t avoid this virus by mid-May or June

[defacto7]

3. Beware of this source

They've put out sensational info before that doesn’t follow the science we already understand.

[babylonsister]

4. Thanks. I was wondering. nt

[dalton99a]

9. Ok. The "peer-review journal Practical Preventive Medicine" doesn't exist

WTF

[defacto7]

11. Oh, I was being kind.

It's also a phishing site as well. Hope your java script is off.

[LisaL]

15. Might be a Chinese Journal?

[brooklynite]

24. The South China Morning Post is the leading newspaper in Hong Kong

[defacto7]

28. I know. But it's imbedded with third party click bait

and those have some not so safe components. When it comes to information as important as public health at the level we're dealing with media sources are not always trustable. That includes some major US sources. Beside editorial or pseudo-professional articles they can be biased and/or looking for sensationalism to make a buck. This it too important for us to be caught in that machine.

When it comes to covid we have to stick to the stats and the direct info from major health organizations and professionals from universities and hospitals, not second, third hand hearsay from any news source.

Just beware and be aware.

[Goodheart]

5. That goddamned virus has wings, even?

We're fucked.

[Generic Brad]

7. It's the Red Bull of viruses!

[Takket]

8. a virus goes everywhere air goes....... which is... everywhere....

but it also diffuses in the process. i assume to contract an illness you usually need to inhale more than ONE virus particle so the "1-2 meters" must take into account how concentrated in their air it has to be for you to breath in enough of it to get sick.

in a confined space like a bus it will just get more and more concentrated the longer you are on there with a sick person coughing.

[greenjar_01]

10. Stop spreading misinformation

Come on.

[Kaleva]

18. This is a discuusion board.

If you believe the information in the article is wrong, provide the evidence that shows it is. I don't know if it's accurate or not and I made no claim in the OP saying either way.

[greenjar_01]

20. Spreading misinformation during a pandemic is corrosive

irresponsible, and deeply unethical.

If you don't know it's verified, from an accurate and credible source, well...

I mean, you're an adult. You should know better.

[Kaleva]

22. So you have no evidence to say it's false then?

You are just going by feelings.

Remember, this is a discussion board. Hopefully others who read the OP can provide sources that either support or refute the claims made in the article.

Being a discussion board, one can also express their opinion that the article contains factual information or not. Which is what you did. Expressed an opinion. Because you can't come up with actual facts to support your claim. I'm going to wait till further facts come out before saying the article is true or not.

[greenjar_01]

23. Yes, just throw up any old nonsense and rumor

and make other people "debunk" it.

Very responsible behavior in an emergency. A real light in the darkness.



Maybe you don't know any better.

[Kaleva]

30. And you are expressing opinion as fact and are okay with that.

I'm holding off judgement until I read more as to the accuracy of the information put out in the article.

[Popcorn Samurai]

27. I don't have concrete proof

And maybe there is a video from the bus disproving this but... I know when I get on a bus I tend to put my hands on the seat tops as I walk on and off the bus. I sure as hell won't now but I can see these people touching the bus seats and it being transmitted in that manner rather than strictly airborne. My 2 cents anyways...

[Kaleva]

31. That could be a way of transmitting it.

[Quixote1818]

12. A 4 hour bus ride? He probably went to the restroom and may have been close to those other folks

in the bus stop. There are many ways they might have got infected by him that don't depend on everyone sitting down in the bus.

[misanthrope]

14. And of the five other passengers closest to the initial COVID-19 passenger

four of them weren't infected but people much further away in the bus were? Over the course of a four-hour ride? That makes little sense.

[LisaL]

16. I am not surprised by that.

Some people are more susceptible than others.

[stopdiggin]

13. seems like this is pretty sketchy information

probably ought to hold off for better sources.

[Kaleva]

19. It certainly needs to be verified by other sources before taken as fact.

[KewlKat]

17. Infections have increased 10 fold in 10 days...

Just heard this on morning joe

[uponit7771]

21. sigh

[sl8]

25. Article now has a disclaimer regarding retraction of study:

[...]

Note: The study at the centre of this article on the transmission of the coronavirus was retracted on Tuesday by the journal Practical Preventive Medicine without giving a reason. The South China Morning Post has reached out to the paper's authors and will update the article.

[...]

[dalton99a]

26. +1. About time