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[OhNo-Really]

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[captain queeg]

1. Holy shit this is scary

[hedda_foil]

2. Holy scheiss!

[Dem2]

3. UGH!

I'm still grieving my father who passed 2 weeks ago (non virus related) and now I'm basically reading that my mom is as good as dead and there's likely nothing I can do because my family are morons?

[OhNo-Really]

5. I'm sorry for your loss. ✨✨💕✨✨

Truth is we don’t ever know if or when.

But this country is way behind and it’s criminally negligent.

Let your family read this

Bleach & isolation are very helpful. And hand washing of course. I wash everything I have to bring into home in sink of water & capful of bleach. Everything! I add bleach to my dish washing. I wear gloves & scarf & hat. Leave jacket in my car. Very large sunglasses. Everyday is Halloween now.

A self-quarantine for about 30 days would help the medical facilities by slowing down the spread. imho.

[Dem2]

8. We've already had one scare we're still waiting on

(infected student in school where my daughter teaches, she visited mom and had a message on answering machine about the situation when she got home :/ )) Problem is, she has another relative living there who is undergoing cancer treatments. This person refuses to not work because she's in retail and she needs the insurance for her cancer treatments. But she's also got emotional problems and won't go back and live in her own apartment (which also happens to be much closer to her work.) My mom is a softie and even though she asked her to go live in her own place, she won't pursue it. So, they're both going to die and there's nothing I can do about it. I won't even get into how other family work in retail and won't stop visiting her. I may have no choice but to kidnap her and have her live at my house.

[OhNo-Really]

9. If you can both stay home that would be great

Times like this I’m thankful my whole family has already passed.

Now I worry about your stress load.

Take care. You have a very full plate

Your mom is lucky to have you

✨✨❤️✨✨🙏✨

[EllieBC]

11. I'm so sorry for your loss!

My dad passed away this past Friday and I’m flying home to NY to help my mom with funeral things and to be there for her.

[JudyM]

15. So sorry, EllieBC.

My heart goes out to you. May his memory be a blessing.

I went through that a year and a half ago. Attending my mother has been great solace for both of us, good that you will be there for each other.

[EllieBC]

18. I knew this would all be hard but

I don’t think anything prepares you for the depth of loss you feel when you lose a parent.

Thank you, JudyM. May the memory of your father be a blessing as well. And may we all stay healthy and well.

[Jarqui]

4. Excellent link. Thank you. You might have saved lives passing that on nt

[OhNo-Really]

10. I hope so. We all need to spread the news

As even the media shys from the worst case scenario

[Haggis for Breakfast]

6. Dear god.

THIS is terrifying.

Because of the STUPIDITY and ARROGANCE in the WH, we don't even know the number of the infected. The US was notified months ago about the trending of this and did NOTHING. We are weeks behind, and cannot catch up. We are past containment.

This is the nightmare I have had since trumpie got into office, that something like this would happen. Knowing how incompetent and arrogant he is, I knew he would not be up to the challange of dealing with something like COVID-19. And all of his lies and bluster are proving every day just how incompetent he is. Twenty two people are dead, and he played fucking golf for the entire weekend. I am so tired of his BS.

We need to get him out of office. N O W. We can't afford to wait for November. HUNDREDS could be dead by then.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

[renate]

7. Our government would be monumentally stupid to refuse to learn from others' experience

Oh, crap....

[JudyM]

16. You got it, renate. This outbreak couldn't happen during a worse administration.

[GulfCoast66]

12. Everyone really needs to read The Great Influenza. It is almost prophetic.

At the end he speculates what the outbreak would look like into today’s world where we expect modern medicine to save us.

This doctors account is almost a blow by blow of his prediction. We have the machines to save most people who get this kind of thing. But when you have 10 people needing every one machine the result is not much different than 1918. Which was horrifying. And once the doctors and nurses get sick the wheels fall off the machine.

[jmbar2]

13. Wonder if they can use morphine to ease people out who cannot be treated

Basically palliative care. Would be more humane than just suffocating fully aware.

[OhNo-Really]

14. I agree.

[lapislzi]

17. They can, but will they?

For one thing, it's an ethical gray area. Not a widely accepted practice, although arguably it could/should be. There is also the backwards pendulum swing against opiates, for any reason. I wouldn't want to be a doctor making that call under ideal conditions, much less a crisis.