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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:33 PM Mar 2020

So, are there really only about 800 COVID cases in the USA?

Current number is 793.

Seems like with testing kits becoming available, this should be increasing by more than 100 per day.

I thought for every infected person, they can spread it to 2 or 3 others.

The number infected must be much higher.

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So, are there really only about 800 COVID cases in the USA? (Original Post) USALiberal Mar 2020 OP
I suspect it is closer to 80000 than it is to 800. LonePirate Mar 2020 #1
Since January Native Mar 2020 #5
No... there are at LEAST 5000+ cases lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #2
Co-sign..here to back you up, when someone inevitably comes dewsgirl Mar 2020 #7
Thanks... but I am a scientist... not an MD or epidemiologist lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #14
I wish you were wrong as well. I have dewsgirl Mar 2020 #16
But deaths would be hard to hide, and it is only 28 so far.... USALiberal Mar 2020 #17
2-3 weeks. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #29
OK, that explains it!! Thanks as always! nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #31
You might be right as to a realistic count as of today. Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #21
I'm with you. Off by 10x. Pobeka Mar 2020 #24
Until we have a R0 number it's impossible to predict Marrah_Goodman Mar 2020 #28
That's what you get when there aren't facilities to test or process in a timely manner uppityperson Mar 2020 #3
My guess is that there are at least 2000+ in the US alone. flying_wahini Mar 2020 #4
Experts have been saying it's more like 20,000 based on modeling Native Mar 2020 #6
Yes..all across the nation.😔 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #8
So shouldn't the deaths be closer to 500? Unless those are not reported. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #11
Many are in early stages and not yet if ever in crisis. Big Blue Marble Mar 2020 #18
Thanks for the info!! nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #19
Not reported. Ratios vary too. Depends on lots of factors. Native Mar 2020 #25
many more. so many people don't want to go to the doc fearful of what the cost will be... Javaman Mar 2020 #9
Don't you think it's odd how well spread out all those few cases are? enki23 Mar 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #12
Currently, my State, New Mexico, is showing zero cases. TygrBright Mar 2020 #13
Thanks! Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #15
kind of hard to count test results.. stillcool Mar 2020 #20
I bet TheFarseer Mar 2020 #22
A terrifying, and sad truth. n/t Pobeka Mar 2020 #26
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #30
There was one case in Kentucky yesterday( a Walmart employee), Bayard Mar 2020 #23
Wasn't it Trump who last week claimed that there were only 15 and soon to be zero? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2020 #27
Hopefully 🤞 Raine Mar 2020 #32
We did see +272 cases today Dem2 Mar 2020 #33

lapfog_1

(29,189 posts)
14. Thanks... but I am a scientist... not an MD or epidemiologist
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:49 PM
Mar 2020

but I have a fair idea about this subject. At the very least I have a mathematics background. The math says I am right... the experience other countries have gone through say I'm right. Only the idiots trying to pretend this isn't happening (mostly at the top of the federal government right now) would say "we know you are wrong".

Honestly, I would love to be wrong. I would love to believe there are only 800 cases in the US right now and this is no worse than the flu... blah blah blah.

But I'm not.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
16. I wish you were wrong as well. I have
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020

watched as the virus methodically has spread across the globe, and have seen how other countries have been dealing with it. We are practically mirroring Iran's strategy, at least in the beginning...

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
17. But deaths would be hard to hide, and it is only 28 so far....
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020

Unless it takes a couple of weeks to be fatal.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
29. 2-3 weeks.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

And just today there was a case diagnosed the same day as the associated death.

The median time from first symptom to death was 14 days.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#days

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
21. You might be right as to a realistic count as of today.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

This virus seems to have grown into a viral Spore with a longer life span over the last couple of weeks.

Next week at this time that might be a moot point. A major Storm is just now crawling out of California on it's way to the Middle of the country with a major wind event included. Above normal Temps mixed with above normal rain is a perfect incubator for the Cold and Flu season to get going. Looks like this storm has all of these factors.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
24. I'm with you. Off by 10x.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

The USA's inability to learn from other countries' experience is devestating.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
28. Until we have a R0 number it's impossible to predict
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 08:45 PM
Mar 2020

And until people start getting tested in large numbers we won't have a clue as to that number. I do think it is much higher then anyone knows.

flying_wahini

(6,576 posts)
4. My guess is that there are at least 2000+ in the US alone.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:36 PM
Mar 2020

But several test kits from the early batch were deemed inconclusive.

Native

(5,936 posts)
6. Experts have been saying it's more like 20,000 based on modeling
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:39 PM
Mar 2020

But that was a couple of days ago, and the numbers grow exponentially. Lots of respected sources have done modeling, and this # seems to be the best guess as of today.

Big Blue Marble

(5,045 posts)
18. Many are in early stages and not yet if ever in crisis.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

Only about 15 to 20% will go on to need to seek medical care. Crisis often is only after
a period of incubation (average 5-7 days) then up to a week of flu symptoms.

Let's see where we are in two to three weeks; we will know a lot more then.

Javaman

(62,497 posts)
9. many more. so many people don't want to go to the doc fearful of what the cost will be...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:41 PM
Mar 2020

especially those who certainly can't afford it or don't have insurance.

and given our shitting workers rights in this country, many of those same people are working sick because they don't have a choice; spreading the virus further.

enki23

(7,786 posts)
10. Don't you think it's odd how well spread out all those few cases are?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:42 PM
Mar 2020

Most all the states have some. We surely did spread those few cases around well. Funny.

Response to USALiberal (Original post)

TygrBright

(20,753 posts)
13. Currently, my State, New Mexico, is showing zero cases.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 02:48 PM
Mar 2020

I would be ASTOUNDED if that were true.

We have a major airport in Albuquerque. All it takes is one asymptomatic carrier to get off their flight at gate A-9, walk through the main concourse, stop for a coffee at the food court, browse a moment at the newsstand, walk to their connecting flight gate B-6, sit in the waiting area with other passengers until their flight is called, stand in the boarding line and hand their boarding pass or phone to the check-in attendant, and how many people have been exposed?

And those people are likely to be asymptomatic for 5-6 days, going about their normal business, potentially transmitting the pathogen to how many others?

Oh, yes, we have cases here.

There are as yet none diagnosed and confirmed by testing, but they are here.

Multiply that by as many places as there are airports, train stations, mass transit, etc.

We definitely have more than 800 cases in the U.S.

certainly,
Bright

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
20. kind of hard to count test results..
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:01 PM
Mar 2020

without the tests. I don't know if the parameters for being 'eligible' for a test have changed, if more tests have been provided by private companies and indivduals..like Bill Gates in Washington State, and I don't know what the CDC is reporting. So...who the eff knows? Looking at other countries, the results in no way match ours. Like Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, or Katrina in New Orleans, or how many Iraqi's were killed, we will never know. We don't do numbers very well.

Bayard

(22,004 posts)
23. There was one case in Kentucky yesterday( a Walmart employee),
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

Today, there are six.

I'm thinking I'm going to head out tomorrow to do some stocking up....

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,145 posts)
27. Wasn't it Trump who last week claimed that there were only 15 and soon to be zero?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

Oh, Donald, Donald, Donald.

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