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Schumer says it all in a Tweet (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP
The best time to loot is when there is chaos dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
And Don-the-Con is the MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #3
Yep. Zero intellect, but plenty of criminal cunning dalton99a Mar 2020 #6
Correct when the public is distracted on to something else. Under The Radar Mar 2020 #4
Corporate Welfare equals Socialism For The Rich DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #5
Cotton Farmer 'round these parts! czarjak Mar 2020 #13
well at least the Auto loan was paid back in full with interest yellowdogintexas Mar 2020 #21
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Mar 2020 #2
I got a little bit of news for Mr. Schumer lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #7
I agree! Karadeniz Mar 2020 #9
What do you do about those of us in the lower socio-economic classes misanthrope Mar 2020 #14
THIS ... what is the plan to FEED people during this period? Moostache Mar 2020 #20
This makes too much sense. nt ooky Mar 2020 #16
How do we get needed medications? Demobrat Mar 2020 #19
30 day pause... lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #25
Trump is playing sleight-of-hand bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #8
You noticed, Chuck. GOOD! calimary Mar 2020 #10
A tax cut is the solution for everything with Republicons. nt doc03 Mar 2020 #11
A tax cut will benefit trump's finances directly Poiuyt Mar 2020 #12
Actually get it done Chuck! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #15
They claim they want to do the same tax cut that Obama did but there is a big difference yaesu Mar 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Demobrat Mar 2020 #18
When your only tool is a hammer, all your problems start to look like nails... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2020 #23
Another word for tax cuts is austerity. Nothing is solved by not paying for it. Prosper Mar 2020 #24
Privatized health care systems prioritize profits over preparedness. The bill is coming due Raven123 Mar 2020 #26
Good but Schuler daily needs to remind the general public what a bust Trumps last tax cut was riversedge Mar 2020 #27
As it has been repeated ad nausea Dukkha Mar 2020 #28
Bribing people is how he has functioned for years in business. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #29

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
4. Correct when the public is distracted on to something else.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

2001 airlines bailout after 9-11 $15 billion
2008 Tarp from Bush $1trillion
2009 tarp from Obama (loan) $1tillion
2009 Auto manufacturing loan $15billion
2017 farmers tariff assistance $28billion

What is the term for corporate welfare?

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
7. I got a little bit of news for Mr. Schumer
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:11 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:53 PM - Edit history (1)

you could drop 10B on "health care" tomorrow and it wouldn't do much if anything to solve or slow this down.

This is a novel virus. People have no immunity. There is no treatment to the virus, only to the resulting havoc it causes.

If we do nothing, the virus will run rampant throughout the US... we will look like northern Italy in the next week or two. Yup, that fast.

Could we use more hospital beds and ventilators and blood oxygen machines... yes... but all the money it the world won't make them appear in time.

So... what do we do now... containment is a week in the rear view mirror. Here is what we can do... we need to slow it down... so that the really sick will not overwhelm our hospitals.

How do we do that. Everyone, young and old, need to go home and stay home... for at least 4 weeks... everyone except for absolutely essential people (fire, some police, sanitation, water and power). Close everything... schools, malls, stores, church, everything... for weeks. Like we all took a vacation (or rather a staycation).

Companies should just pause... contracts paused... payments delayed, collections delayed. One giant PAUSE button.

Don't collect the rent, don't default the mortgages, etc. Send every adult in the US a check for $1000 (cost around $200B)... or maybe more, to take the vacation.

Oh, yeah, almost forgot, drop in a few Billion more for test kits... millions and millions of test kits... and test everyone... sick or not.

Like China did. China's rate of new cases is less than OUR rate of new cases (almost).

But there is little (other than testing) that we can do by handing out billions to health care... it's too late for that.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
14. What do you do about those of us in the lower socio-economic classes
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

who don't have the facilities to store that amount of food and goods? You going to deliver to us as needed?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
20. THIS ... what is the plan to FEED people during this period?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

How will medicines and food and milk/water be delivered?
What about physical therapy or home health care?
For those who barely eke out an existence with help from services like Meals on Wheels, or volunteers...how are they to survive being cut-off from society?

Its one thing to suggest a massive quarantine action in the USA, but with this current federal government in charge, I guarantee you that we would have more dead from trying to slap this action together than if we had taken this seriously since November or December. We are literally stuck in the middle of a no-win scenario, and there is no chance of Captain Kirk rewriting the Kobayashi Maru simulation to rescue the ship AND save the stranded...

Trump was once a joke, then a criminal and now he is directly responsible for deaths and suffering of Americans with the potential to become the greatest mass murderer of human history if he does not stop the current shtick and get truly serious about protecting people instead of polls. How much more is the country supposed to take from this asshat?

We are utterly unprepared for a disaster on this scale and magnitude...it is as if every state is getting hit with a Katrina-level event all at once AND it is causing private sector damage as well that could fundamentally change the nation in its wake...

I have never felt so helpless for my country as I do right now...

Demobrat

(8,968 posts)
19. How do we get needed medications?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:42 PM
Mar 2020

My insurance company will not allow me to receive more than 30 days worth at a time. I cannot pick up medications early. What do I do if the pharmacy is closed?

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
25. 30 day pause...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:45 AM
Mar 2020

like these 30 days don't really exist.

Your insurance company "won't allow"... so we declare a national emergency and direct the insurance and drug companies to deliver your meds to you for this "out of time" 30 day period. No charge. This one time. Insurance companies and drug companies will need to be reimbursed... so they save the invoice and submit it in 30 days to your insurance or Medicare or MEdicaid... or if no insurance, to a payment bureau the Feds set up.

How do you get your medicine or canned food? From those essential workers I mentioned, delivered to your doorstep. What about those workers... train them to be virus safe and test them frequently... like whatever cadence we need (daily? weekly?)



yeah, we sort of end up like this. OTOH, its for 30 days. Better than having 100s of thousands die... or millions... mostly older people

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
12. A tax cut will benefit trump's finances directly
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

Working on a health care solution to the coronavirus will only help America and the world.

See the difference?

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
17. They claim they want to do the same tax cut that Obama did but there is a big difference
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

that money will never be paid back to social security which is just another way for the fascists to kill off SS.

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Prosper

(761 posts)
24. Another word for tax cuts is austerity. Nothing is solved by not paying for it.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:43 AM
Mar 2020

Remember when Gordon Gekko popularized greed with “Greed is Good”. The right wing is expert in propaganda. Tax cuts are the right’s way to impose poverty and control.

Raven123

(4,818 posts)
26. Privatized health care systems prioritize profits over preparedness. The bill is coming due
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

The concept of “just in time” does not apply to health care. For years hospitals have staffed, supplied and planned along slim margins to avoid having “excess” capacity to handle problems beyond the expected annual surges in caring for flu patients. No surprise we have to play catch-up.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
27. Good but Schuler daily needs to remind the general public what a bust Trumps last tax cut was
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:02 AM
Mar 2020

for the average worker!!

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
28. As it has been repeated ad nausea
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020

Nobody did better to warn us about Trump than Trump himself

It was inevitable that a real crisis that would come along that he would be woefully incompetent to handle

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