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Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:30 PM Mar 2020

Can someone run the projections on these numbers? (exponentially)

Thanks in advance

This doesn't include China. I am using the graph in the bottom right hand corner: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Past 10 days (thousands):


3-1 8.5
3-2 10.3
3-3 12.7
3-4 14.9
3-5 17.5
3-6 21.2
3-7 25.2
3-8 29.1
3-9 32.8
3-10 37.8

Day 1 + 1.8
Day 2 + 2.4
Day 3 + 2.2
Day 4 + 2.6
Day 5 + 3.7
Day 6 + 4.0
Day 7 + 3.9
Day 8 + 3.7
Day 9 + 5



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Can someone run the projections on these numbers? (exponentially) (Original Post) Quixote1818 Mar 2020 OP
Like this? Dem2 Mar 2020 #1
Thanks, I should have said projected Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #2
Assuming rate won't change with weather like the flu JCMach1 Mar 2020 #3
Good point. It will probably start picking up in Australia and extreme Southern South America Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #4
And Sub-Saharan Africa JCMach1 Mar 2020 #16
Are you looking for the equation? Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #5
Thank you! nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #6
If I run a power curve, and I use Jan 24 as the starting date, Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #7
Interesting. Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #8
Yup. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #9
Why did SARS die out so quickly? nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #10
I wasn't really tracking SARS Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #13
463K on March 31? Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #11
That is worldwide. It will probably be higher than that since testing has been inconsistent. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #12
Yes, I knew worldwide. Still. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #14
China only maintained a similar curve for about 20 days - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #15
I ran the non-China case numbers from Feb 9 to Mar 11 The_jackalope Mar 2020 #17

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
2. Thanks, I should have said projected
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

It looks like around a half million by April 1st, 2 million by April 10, 8 million by April 20. 32 million by May 1st, 120 million by May 10, 480 million by May 20th etc I am just eyeballing it

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
3. Assuming rate won't change with weather like the flu
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:48 PM
Mar 2020

We may have a Summer lull followed by a hellish Fall.

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
4. Good point. It will probably start picking up in Australia and extreme Southern South America
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:50 PM
Mar 2020

but those places have very limited world population.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
16. And Sub-Saharan Africa
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:27 AM
Mar 2020

There have been 0 cases last check in Kenya.

Weird fact, some African countries have a better response team than we do due to having been scared poopless about an Ebola pandemic...

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
5. Are you looking for the equation?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:51 PM
Mar 2020

Number of cases = 7536 x e^(1.665 x D), where D = number of days from March 1 (That's a very close fit, with r^2 = .9956)

So, for example, on March 30 (30 days from March 1), the number of cases is projected to be 1,314,474

Again - that's assuming the currently reported cases are accurate & the rate of transmission doesn't change.

(I didn't trace the numbers back before your 10 days.)

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
7. If I run a power curve, and I use Jan 24 as the starting date,
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020

I get # cases = .0000007 x D^6.4964 (where D=# days since January 24). That's also a close match at r^2 = .9931

That would put the total on March 31 at 463,002 (pretty close to your eyeball).

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
8. Interesting.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:26 AM
Mar 2020

I imagine people are taking extra precautions right now slowing things down a bit which is really good compared to what we could be seeing. However, the unreliable testing numbers in a number of countries creates a hell of a lot of unknowns.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
9. Yup.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:28 AM
Mar 2020

Trying to match a curve - that may well change over time is pretty sketchy business. But I was within 3 days of predicting when COVID 19 would surpass the SARS deaths.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
13. I wasn't really tracking SARS
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

When I was trying to wake up the administration of the school I work at yesterday by giving them accurate information, they wanted to know how I knew so much. My response was that I have an at risk daughter - if something might kill her, I stalk it to death.

So I've been tracking this since mid-January.

SARS was after she was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis but before she was diagnosed with primary sclerosing cholangitis (a chronic liver disease that will ultimately require a transplant). So I didn't view SARS as a particular threat.

I think part of the difference is that COVID 19 has a high transmission rate but a death pattern that does not kill its host off before the host can infect others (contagious before symptoms, long drawn out death = more opportunity for transmission). SARS was more deadly (so it killed the host quickly) and an average transmission rate.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
15. China only maintained a similar curve for about 20 days -
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 12:40 AM
Mar 2020

then it tapered off.

They instituted pretty draconian measures to make it taper off.

There are a couple of things that can taper it off - running out of uninfected bodies to infect (with 33 million, that's not likely to happen that quickly) or we implement measures to slow transmission (that's what China did - and what Italy is attempting to do)

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
17. I ran the non-China case numbers from Feb 9 to Mar 11
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

I projected out to Mar 31, or ~3 weeks. A third-order polynomial gave the best fit, with an R^2 of 0.9987. On March 31 the projection indicates ~250,000 cases outside China. That implies a doubling of cases every 8 days or so, if the curve remains intact.

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