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What will banning Europeans do, the coronavirus is already here. (Original Post) spanone Mar 2020 OP
IOW, the call is coming from inside the house! nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #1
Exactly... spanone Mar 2020 #3
Further damage the US and EU economies? RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
Well,Trump fucked up a trip I've been planning for five months! PJMcK Mar 2020 #4
Fly from Amsterdam to UK, then you'll be able to fly home. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #5
Yeah, I heard that suggestion PJMcK Mar 2020 #8
I'm not sure I would want to come back.. MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #16
Immigration will check passport for recent travels stamped in there. at140 Mar 2020 #14
Actually US citizens can get back in jberryhill Mar 2020 #6
But if my flight originates in Europe... PJMcK Mar 2020 #12
Yes you will jberryhill Mar 2020 #21
That's funny. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2020 #27
The State Department's guidelines look iffy PJMcK Mar 2020 #31
Goebbels, I mean, Cuccinelli is live tweeting corrections jberryhill Mar 2020 #33
Well... PJMcK Mar 2020 #34
No ban for out going flights to Europe at140 Mar 2020 #7
Really?! PJMcK Mar 2020 #15
I would not, unless my stay in Amsterdam is 30+ days at140 Mar 2020 #17
No, I haven't traveled to Asia PJMcK Mar 2020 #20
Ignore idiot Trump, do not cancel your trip, at140 Mar 2020 #24
The China visa takes up a whole page jberryhill Mar 2020 #25
That is what I have heard..nt at140 Mar 2020 #28
Flights. From. Europe. Are. Not. Banned. jberryhill Mar 2020 #23
Authoritarian ego stroking? ck4829 Mar 2020 #9
Absolutely nothing. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #10
That travel ban makes no sense at all. C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #11
Your passport will show stamps of every country you have visited along with dates. at140 Mar 2020 #18
It's unsustainable from the airline's standpoint. C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #22
Yeah, instead of 2 hours before flight, you may have to arrive 4 hours before flight at140 Mar 2020 #26
Plus EU citizens don't get passport stamps between EU countries C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #30
It will make his master Putin happy. FM123 Mar 2020 #13
Because that's what Putin told him to do HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #19
I always close the barn door a month after the horses have escaped Dem2 Mar 2020 #29
something to sell to the MAGAts, plus it lets the bloat prance around like he is Billy big bollocks Celerity Mar 2020 #32
It will decrease the number of people wearing socks and sandals jberryhill Mar 2020 #35
There is that. spanone Mar 2020 #36
This was a panicky talk given because Fauci was finally giving a venue to talk GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #37

RockRaven

(14,962 posts)
2. Further damage the US and EU economies?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

Trump is such a fucking traitor, doing Putin and Xi's dirty work for them... accidentally or on purpose, it doesn't matter, a traitor either way.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
4. Well,Trump fucked up a trip I've been planning for five months!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:11 PM
Mar 2020

Sure, I can fly to Amsterdam and stay in the hotel and take care of my business.

But Trump won't let me, an American citizen, back into the country.

Nice government you've got there, Trump, you fucking idiot.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
8. Yeah, I heard that suggestion
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

Also to fly to other countries.

I cannot afford to be blocked out of the country. Could you?

Would you trust this government to let you back in the country?

I don't trust this government to tell me the time of day.

at140

(6,110 posts)
14. Immigration will check passport for recent travels stamped in there.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

That is how they are stopping people who traveled to China recently.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
12. But if my flight originates in Europe...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

... I won't be able to fly into New York.

Of course, when I'm in Amsterdam, I'll contract the virus and then who nows what chaos will ensue?!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Yes you will
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:28 PM
Mar 2020

As usual the shithead in chief misspoke.

He has been corrected. US citizens can fly back. If you are on a US carrier, many of the passengers are likely to be returning US citizens, but one imagines they will consolidate flights if any are cancelled.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
31. The State Department's guidelines look iffy
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:43 PM
Mar 2020

It's not worth the uncertainty of leaving the U.S. and not being able to return.

In fact, my life and I have decided to hunker down in our country house in the Catskills. We've stocked up on essentials and I can do almost all of my work remotely. My wife is essentially on vacation for two weeks as she's a teacher and it's Spring Break. We'll see how many of her schools reopen in a couple of weeks.

Yeah, President Chowderhead is foolish if he thinks Americans are somehow immune while overseas.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. Goebbels, I mean, Cuccinelli is live tweeting corrections
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:59 PM
Mar 2020

If you can believe that.

I dunno. I’d consider getting out anyway, if I were you.

I’m scheduled to be in France in late June, and kinda thinking that I’d just as soon be outta here ASAP.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
34. Well...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:01 AM
Mar 2020

We are thinking of taking some time out of the country...

But it takes some careful planning.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
15. Really?!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

Would you take that chance?

Imagine if I go to Amsterdam, do my business and then show up at Schipol Airport to fly back to the U.S. If the flights are barred from the U.S., how am I to get home?

Trump is an idiot.

at140

(6,110 posts)
17. I would not, unless my stay in Amsterdam is 30+ days
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:21 PM
Mar 2020

some are suggesting you can fly to Mexico and then fly into US. I am guessing they do not look inside their passports.
Every country you enter will stamp arrival and departures in your passport, along with dates. That is how the immigration can tell
if you have been inside China recently.

PJMcK

(22,034 posts)
20. No, I haven't traveled to Asia
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

Of course, you're correct about passport stamps.

My trip was for 12 days and involved a major music project. It's been put on indefinite hold because of Trump's executive decision. This means that about 50 people will not get paid for the project.

Trump is an idiot.

at140

(6,110 posts)
24. Ignore idiot Trump, do not cancel your trip,
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:32 PM
Mar 2020

just be careful with hand washing etc while in Amsterdam. Avoid hand shakes.
Unless you are coughing and have a fever, you will have no problem entering US.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. The China visa takes up a whole page
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:33 PM
Mar 2020

If you’ve been to China, you have a giant sticker with a hologram the size of an entire page of your passport.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. Flights. From. Europe. Are. Not. Banned.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:31 PM
Mar 2020

Non US travelers are banned.

Flights will continue.

There are things on planes other than people.

Even if NOBODY was on the planes, many flights would continue, because the cargo is an entire other thing which earns revenue and takes up more weight on a typical flight than the passengers do.

All those Gouda wheels and tulip bulbs aren’t going to swim here.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
11. That travel ban makes no sense at all.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

What airline will fly only 'select' Americans and cargo back and forth? And what's with that Britain bullshit... as if Heathrow and Gatwick aren't an air shuttle away from anywhere in EU. Trump is a moron.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
22. It's unsustainable from the airline's standpoint.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:31 PM
Mar 2020

It's the stupidest idea imaginable - there's no way it can work. And besides, it has jack shit to do with preventing Coronavirus. One infected American - or even ground crew person and...

Trump would do better leaving things to medical professionals and leave the idiot travel ideas alone. Doesn't he have a miniature model Trump Shuttle to play with?

at140

(6,110 posts)
26. Yeah, instead of 2 hours before flight, you may have to arrive 4 hours before flight
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

Processing International flights is slow already.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
30. Plus EU citizens don't get passport stamps between EU countries
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:42 PM
Mar 2020

Sounds like the Trumps are already backpedaling and saying some other countries may be excluded from ban. It's just gets more ridiculous.

Meanwhile, no help for USA healthcare. No mention of additional testing. WTF.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
13. It will make his master Putin happy.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:16 PM
Mar 2020

Since Putin hates the EU, Trumpy bashes them every chance he gets. No matter what tragedy or crisis is happening here at home, his thoughts are never far from Russia and how to serve his master over there....

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
19. Because that's what Putin told him to do
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:23 PM
Mar 2020

On a side note, Notice we’re not hearing about how it’s going in Russia with this virus? Haven’t heard or seen a thing.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
35. It will decrease the number of people wearing socks and sandals
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:10 AM
Mar 2020

Which is something to think about.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. This was a panicky talk given because Fauci was finally giving a venue to talk
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:17 AM
Mar 2020

And tell the truth. It is already lost in confusion.

The White House is melting down.

American Citizens will not be barred from re-entering the country.

Take your trip. Hell, you’ll be safer there.

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