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(65,336 posts)spanone
(135,828 posts)RockRaven
(14,962 posts)Trump is such a fucking traitor, doing Putin and Xi's dirty work for them... accidentally or on purpose, it doesn't matter, a traitor either way.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)Sure, I can fly to Amsterdam and stay in the hotel and take care of my business.
But Trump won't let me, an American citizen, back into the country.
Nice government you've got there, Trump, you fucking idiot.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)PJMcK
(22,034 posts)Also to fly to other countries.
I cannot afford to be blocked out of the country. Could you?
Would you trust this government to let you back in the country?
I don't trust this government to tell me the time of day.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)That is how they are stopping people who traveled to China recently.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Because President Chowderhead thinks that makes sense.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)... I won't be able to fly into New York.
Of course, when I'm in Amsterdam, I'll contract the virus and then who nows what chaos will ensue?!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)As usual the shithead in chief misspoke.
He has been corrected. US citizens can fly back. If you are on a US carrier, many of the passengers are likely to be returning US citizens, but one imagines they will consolidate flights if any are cancelled.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)PJMcK
(22,034 posts)It's not worth the uncertainty of leaving the U.S. and not being able to return.
In fact, my life and I have decided to hunker down in our country house in the Catskills. We've stocked up on essentials and I can do almost all of my work remotely. My wife is essentially on vacation for two weeks as she's a teacher and it's Spring Break. We'll see how many of her schools reopen in a couple of weeks.
Yeah, President Chowderhead is foolish if he thinks Americans are somehow immune while overseas.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you can believe that.
I dunno. Id consider getting out anyway, if I were you.
Im scheduled to be in France in late June, and kinda thinking that Id just as soon be outta here ASAP.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)We are thinking of taking some time out of the country...
But it takes some careful planning.
at140
(6,110 posts)poster above said no ban for US citizens to return.
Would you take that chance?
Imagine if I go to Amsterdam, do my business and then show up at Schipol Airport to fly back to the U.S. If the flights are barred from the U.S., how am I to get home?
Trump is an idiot.
at140
(6,110 posts)some are suggesting you can fly to Mexico and then fly into US. I am guessing they do not look inside their passports.
Every country you enter will stamp arrival and departures in your passport, along with dates. That is how the immigration can tell
if you have been inside China recently.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)Of course, you're correct about passport stamps.
My trip was for 12 days and involved a major music project. It's been put on indefinite hold because of Trump's executive decision. This means that about 50 people will not get paid for the project.
Trump is an idiot.
at140
(6,110 posts)just be careful with hand washing etc while in Amsterdam. Avoid hand shakes.
Unless you are coughing and have a fever, you will have no problem entering US.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If youve been to China, you have a giant sticker with a hologram the size of an entire page of your passport.
at140
(6,110 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Non US travelers are banned.
Flights will continue.
There are things on planes other than people.
Even if NOBODY was on the planes, many flights would continue, because the cargo is an entire other thing which earns revenue and takes up more weight on a typical flight than the passengers do.
All those Gouda wheels and tulip bulbs arent going to swim here.
ck4829
(35,069 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)What airline will fly only 'select' Americans and cargo back and forth? And what's with that Britain bullshit... as if Heathrow and Gatwick aren't an air shuttle away from anywhere in EU. Trump is a moron.
at140
(6,110 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)It's the stupidest idea imaginable - there's no way it can work. And besides, it has jack shit to do with preventing Coronavirus. One infected American - or even ground crew person and...
Trump would do better leaving things to medical professionals and leave the idiot travel ideas alone. Doesn't he have a miniature model Trump Shuttle to play with?
at140
(6,110 posts)Processing International flights is slow already.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)Sounds like the Trumps are already backpedaling and saying some other countries may be excluded from ban. It's just gets more ridiculous.
Meanwhile, no help for USA healthcare. No mention of additional testing. WTF.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Since Putin hates the EU, Trumpy bashes them every chance he gets. No matter what tragedy or crisis is happening here at home, his thoughts are never far from Russia and how to serve his master over there....
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)On a side note, Notice were not hearing about how its going in Russia with this virus? Havent heard or seen a thing.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Don't you?
Celerity
(43,333 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Which is something to think about.
spanone
(135,828 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And tell the truth. It is already lost in confusion.
The White House is melting down.
American Citizens will not be barred from re-entering the country.
Take your trip. Hell, youll be safer there.