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DVRacer

(707 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:42 PM Mar 2020

My heart is broken family friend killed in Iraq

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

This morning two Air Force officers were at the front door of a good friend. They explained how his son was killed in the attack in Iraq. I’m really at a loss for words as I knew this kid his whole life. Keep the Roberts family in your prayers.

“I was awakened early this morning to see people gathered on my porch. In my confusion I seen my daughter in law very upset and then seen the two Air Force officers with her. My son Marshal Roberts was the American soldier killed yesterday in the missile attack in Iraq. Please take a moment to remember my sweet son today and prayers to lift his young wife Krissy, his sisters, and especially Marshal Roberts daughter Paityn. My heart will never be the same.” His Father’s message publicly

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My heart is broken family friend killed in Iraq (Original Post) DVRacer Mar 2020 OP
I'm sorry to hear that. What a nightmare for them. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #1
I've had that visit. lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #2
My family has to... Freedomofspeech Mar 2020 #25
so very sorry flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #3
Its a grief I cannot even imagine. marble falls Mar 2020 #4
Oh my goodness! redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #5
So very sorry. gademocrat7 Mar 2020 #6
You know what you have to do now Botany Mar 2020 #7
I am so so sorry. Sending you and the Roberts family love. MLAA Mar 2020 #8
I'm so very sorry for your loss Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #9
Perhaps illegal invasions Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #10
You need to step outside of yourself a little on this one. LuvLoogie Mar 2020 #14
Maybe so (I had to look up "Sarandony") Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #23
I am a disabled vet myself DVRacer Mar 2020 #11
That poor Roberts family. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #12
Look, if you go over there, wherever, under incompetent Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #27
people enlist for all kinds of reasons... stillcool Mar 2020 #31
I won't guess about an individual's intentions CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #33
True, Captain. Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #36
I'd like to see an aptitude test given before voting, but CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #39
That's a powerful concept : that, by some just measure, Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #44
I rejected the voter test because Education funding gets destroyed by our GOP. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #46
I understand. Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #55
I didn't join the Army to kill people Victor_c3 Mar 2020 #57
Yes. Of course what you describe is entirely understandable Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #60
My heart is breaking with yours. MontanaMama Mar 2020 #13
A very. sad day. My young nephews are serving abroad..hope theyre safe. RestoreAmerica2020 Mar 2020 #15
War is too horrible to comprehend SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #16
Good for you on naming your son after him. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #41
... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2020 #17
I'll never forget that powerful opening scene from Saving Private Ryan Poiuyt Mar 2020 #18
I am so sorry gopiscrap Mar 2020 #19
The Roberts are ChazII Mar 2020 #20
I am so sorry. redwitch Mar 2020 #21
I am so sorry for you and for the Roberts family, DVRacer. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #22
We had two Air Force officers knock on our door during Vietnam... Freedomofspeech Mar 2020 #24
I am so sorry. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #26
Mrs K, Tess, and I have nothing to offer except, kozar Mar 2020 #28
Thank you DVRacer Mar 2020 #29
So very sorry relayerbob Mar 2020 #30
Sorry doesn't even begin. Please give condolences from the DK community. Maggiemayhem Mar 2020 #32
I am sorry rebe303 Mar 2020 #34
The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #35
And I didn't think I could hate them anymore than I already did. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #43
So many of us have sympathy and feelings for the Roberts family. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #49
He knows nothing. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #56
And don't forget Donald's answer to "what kinds of sacrifices have you made?" calimary Mar 2020 #50
So sorry democrank Mar 2020 #37
(((hugs))) samnsara Mar 2020 #38
I will certainly keep the Roberts family in my heart as they and you Backseat Driver Mar 2020 #40
My heart goes out to you and yours Niagara Mar 2020 #42
... greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #45
I am so sorry for your friend's family and for you. mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #47
I am sorry Tom Kitten Mar 2020 #48
So sorry for your loss! vishnura Mar 2020 #51
I am deeply sorry for your loss. spicysista Mar 2020 #52
I am very sorry DashOneBravo Mar 2020 #53
I am so very sorry for this tragic loss dlk Mar 2020 #54
Just try to imagine, in their fragile state, if someone said, "Of course, he knew this might happen Karadeniz Mar 2020 #58
War and Peace lonely bird Mar 2020 #59
So sorry for his loss Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #61
I'm so sorry DesertRat Mar 2020 #62
My thoughts are with the family and I mourn the loss of a fellow Airman The Polack MSgt Mar 2020 #63
Praying for your family to have the strength to deal with this pain! I lost a great nephew in MojoWrkn Mar 2020 #64

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
5. Oh my goodness!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:44 PM
Mar 2020

My Mom used to be terrified of having the Navy come to the door during the Vietnam war, my brother was a pilot. I will keep the Roberts family in my prayers. I can't imagine what it would be like to see that black car in the driveway...

Botany

(70,490 posts)
7. You know what you have to do now
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:48 PM
Mar 2020

When the time is right go and be strong for your friend and be a friend too.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
10. Perhaps illegal invasions
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

and regime-change efforts in foreign countries are not a good way to proceed and might bring on (blowback) consequences?

How much suffering and death on the 'other' side?

LuvLoogie

(6,992 posts)
14. You need to step outside of yourself a little on this one.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

That was a kind of Sarandony reply to someone reaching out.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
23. Maybe so (I had to look up "Sarandony")
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

And I grieve.

This is a political forum. My geopolitical, as well as domestic US political, point stands.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
11. I am a disabled vet myself
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

Unfortunately this just also stirs emotions from years gone by and others lost.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
12. That poor Roberts family.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

First, the utter shock of it. Then the numbness. Then the tears. The tears that will never end.

Our kids are supposed to outlive us. This is awful.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
27. Look, if you go over there, wherever, under incompetent
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

and arguably immoral leadership, to kill people, and worse,...

... How, within reason, can you complain about the inevitable consequences? ,

Edit: I'.m à Brit. My "upper" as well as my own social class has, we have, plenty of experience in what I mention here.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
31. people enlist for all kinds of reasons...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:14 PM
Mar 2020

and the ones that complain about the 'inevitable consequences' are the same ones that will mourn for you when you suffer the 'inevitable consequences' of life.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
33. I won't guess about an individual's intentions
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:22 PM
Mar 2020

as far as just wanting to kill people. I do know that some soldiers enlisted to take advantage of the G I Bill and have their college tuition paid.

Losing a young life full of potential is tragic either way.

I was hoping all countries could call their soldiers back home because of COVID-19 and "give peace a chance". Being a Brit, you may have heard the phrase before.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
36. True, Captain.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:46 PM
Mar 2020

We all grieve, yet continue to vote into power...

... Precisely, mostly, the wrong kind of people.

It's so sad and I genuinely grieve for all poor souls.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
39. I'd like to see an aptitude test given before voting, but
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:54 PM
Mar 2020

that could be used as a poll tax by the wrong people.

Maybe an aptitude test/Citizenship test could be given to the candidates instead, including their Cabinet members and appointed judges. For some of those in this administration, a breathalyzer & pee test could be appropriate as well.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
44. That's a powerful concept : that, by some just measure,
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:11 PM
Mar 2020

those unqualified should be disqualified - from either standing or voting in significant elections.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
46. I rejected the voter test because Education funding gets destroyed by our GOP.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

That would keep decent, good-hearted folks out of the polls.

The test for candidacy would keep Donald "Comrade Carrot" Trump and his crime family out of politics.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
57. I didn't join the Army to kill people
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
Mar 2020

I was a child of the 80s and I came to age in the 90’s. I was 15 when the Dayton Peace Accord was signed and NATO took over the failed peacekeeping mission in the Balkans.

I grew up believing that the US Army was a force for good and that we had learned our lessons from Vietnam. I joined the Army because I wanted to be the tip of the spear of a force that stopped genocide, fought for freedom, and made the world a better place. As a 17 year old kid, I believed every bit of that when I joined the Army in 1997.

Fast forward to 2004 and I found myself in Iraq, where I served with distinction as an Infantry Platoon Leader. I hated that war and never believed it was justified. It was tough doing what I was doing, but I did my best to be kind and helpful to the people I interacted with in Iraq.

I’m sure some people join because they want to know what it’s like to kill, but my experience is that the vast join because they either believe they are fighting for something good or they have no other options to improve their position in life.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
60. Yes. Of course what you describe is entirely understandable
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

and respectable, in the eyes of all the world...

... Decisions taken by your, and others' leaders, often, not so much., I think many would agree.

Thanks for your honorable intentions and honesty.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
13. My heart is breaking with yours.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

Please accept my condolences. Universe, hold this young man and his family in in your arms.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
15. A very. sad day. My young nephews are serving abroad..hope theyre safe.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:13 PM - Edit history (1)

...As well two American soldiers died last week while serving in Iraq; I believe they were from NM. These men died serving their country, they gave the ultimate sacrifice.




SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
16. War is too horrible to comprehend
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

The day I got home after my Freshman year of college my Mother met me at the door crying her eyes out. My best friend from Kindergarten days had been killed in Vietnam.

In addition to completing the political radicalization that I had undergone during my first year of college, it caused me to swear that I would do all I could to oppose wars in the future. I went to several rallies before the invasion of Iraq but, without a draft to mobilize the young people, there was no critical mass in the streets to resist the war.

BTW, my son proudly has the first name of my friend, who died at 19

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
41. Good for you on naming your son after him.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020

And thank you for your true patriotism and caring about Americans.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
18. I'll never forget that powerful opening scene from Saving Private Ryan
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:32 PM
Mar 2020

It really made you feel what it would be like to get that visit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. I am so sorry for you and for the Roberts family, DVRacer.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

My brother is a recently retired Air Force pilot and I have always lived with the fear that we would get that call/knock on the door. There must be nothing worse for these families. My heart breaks for them. Please be good to them and let you know how much you care. They will want to know that.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
24. We had two Air Force officers knock on our door during Vietnam...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

To let us know of my brother's death. Life was never the same. Sending love and peace to your friends.😥

kozar

(2,109 posts)
28. Mrs K, Tess, and I have nothing to offer except,
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

our thoughts for your friend. and as I always say when it comes to thoughts and prayers. We will offer our beliefs, just in case those who need prayers,,want to hear them. So all of my family is offered to the Roberts family.


Koz

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
35. The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020

The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'.

Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/visit-to-arlington-cemetery-reminded-donald-trump-jr-of-all-his-family-s-sacrifices-he-writes-1.606501

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212910508

"I gave up my life to move to Washington to help Americans," Ivanka Trump says in Davos interview.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
43. And I didn't think I could hate them anymore than I already did.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

Undeserving, overprivileged scum.

Sacrifice is having too much or too little mayo on their sandwich. My leg has been gone for two years and I'm not the least bit jealous of these vermin.

I'll be going to Heaven and it'll be Heaven because they won't be there.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
49. So many of us have sympathy and feelings for the Roberts family.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:36 PM
Mar 2020

So many of us have sympathy and feelings for the Roberts family.

Trump says he knew what he was signing up for.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
56. He knows nothing.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

He's running this country like one of his failed businesses. He doesn't know of the Constitution or Separation of Powers. Who in their right mind (of his 63 million voters) think he's qualified for anything?

calimary

(81,220 posts)
50. And don't forget Donald's answer to "what kinds of sacrifices have you made?"
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:40 PM
Mar 2020

I’ve NEVER forgotten this one (and I’m never gonna forget):

“Oh I made a lotta sacrifices. I built great structuuuuurres.”

He never described in any detail what “sacrifices” were involved in building “great structures.” What the hell does one have to do with the other?




And, um, I think we know the answer to that.

THIS is a SACRIFICE. THIS. The loss of beloved son, husband, brother, that seat at the Thanksgiving table. It’s that voice that will never be heard talking or laughing or even It’s forever. It leaves a hole in the heart that never mends. I’m so sorry to hear this. I can only imagine how badly and how deeply this hurts. All I can do is offer all my prayers and words of comfort.

It’s clear from this thread, DVRacer, that you do not grieve alone.

Backseat Driver

(4,390 posts)
40. I will certainly keep the Roberts family in my heart as they and you
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

grieve for their young man. May comfort come to you and to family and other friends. No good things come with war - I despair that we'll never learn how to stop those that would oppress others for greed and power...I will ask the Lord to welcome Marshal with love for his honor of others' freedoms that resulted in his final earthly sacrifice in service.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
47. I am so sorry for your friend's family and for you.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

It's not right. It never is when our children go before we do. My heart is heavy for that young widow and her now fatherless daughter. May the whole Roberts' family be surrounded with love from friends and relatives as they live through this loss.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
52. I am deeply sorry for your loss.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:45 PM
Mar 2020

It's the nightmare of any person who has a loved one in the service. Its a conversation my husband and I have with the kids each time he deploys. We have another one coming up soon. My prayers go out to you and the family of the departed.

Karadeniz

(22,506 posts)
58. Just try to imagine, in their fragile state, if someone said, "Of course, he knew this might happen
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:56 PM
Mar 2020

When he signed up. " Or, "He knew what he was signing up for." Jeez. Please convey everyone's sympathy for their loss to them.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
59. War and Peace
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

“No one is so foolish as to choose war over peace. In peace sons bury their fathers. In war fathers bury their sons.” - Herodotus

Peace to the family.

The Polack MSgt

(13,186 posts)
63. My thoughts are with the family and I mourn the loss of a fellow Airman
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:31 AM
Mar 2020

I hope that the family can find peace

MojoWrkn

(139 posts)
64. Praying for your family to have the strength to deal with this pain! I lost a great nephew in
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020

Iraq 15 years ago and I still cry whenever I see someone in BDU's on tv. Offering my sincere condolences!

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