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Danmel

(4,913 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:25 PM Mar 2020

One of my dearest friends just lost her 28 year old son

To a drug overdose. He has been battling addiction for more than 10 years. It totally consumed his life and hers. She just called me on her way home from the hospital.
She tried to revive him with narcan but it was too late. As a mother of a child the same age as her son Anthony, I cannot even begin to imagine trying and failing to revive my child. We actually met commuting to work when we were both pregnant.
I am heartbroken. I am at a loss about what to do.
How can I help her?

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One of my dearest friends just lost her 28 year old son (Original Post) Danmel Mar 2020 OP
so sorry, Danmel Skittles Mar 2020 #1
A veteran gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #3
My only experience is from the loss of a boyfriend many years ago MLAA Mar 2020 #2
I am so sorry. Addiction has to to be the most heart-breaking disease. Laffy Kat Mar 2020 #4
So very sorry to hear about your friend's great loss. Kaleva Mar 2020 #5
Oh, I am so sorry Danmel. How heartbreaking. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #6
I lost my best friend from college SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #7
I'm sorry about your friend Danmel Mar 2020 #10
The most telling thing you said SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #25
Lost mine from preschool at age 31 somewhat similarly Jarqui Mar 2020 #35
I am so sorry gopiscrap Mar 2020 #8
Just give her a hug. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #9
I know two families who lost children to addiction MaryMagdaline Mar 2020 #11
Talk to her Kaiserguy Mar 2020 #12
Make sure she is eating well thecrow Mar 2020 #40
I'm so sorry. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #13
Dear Danmel, your friend is in shock. She doesn't have any idea yet what just happened - it's Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #14
Just be there for her. barbtries Mar 2020 #15
Thank you so much for sharing this Danmel Mar 2020 #20
This--such great advice. slumcamper Mar 2020 #39
Do a lot of listening without trying to fix things Warpy Mar 2020 #16
Good advice Frances Mar 2020 #29
Same here. moreland01 Mar 2020 #17
A cousin of mine recently lost her granddaughter to an overdose. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #18
Just let her know you're available and listen when and if lunatica Mar 2020 #19
I'm a bereaved mom, 15 years in. ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #21
That makes sense. Saying her name helps keep her memory alive. pnwmom Mar 2020 #23
Just sit quietly with her, and let her talk. She will probably have a lot to say, pnwmom Mar 2020 #22
Me too NewEnglandAutumn Mar 2020 #24
I'm so sorry Danmel Mar 2020 #28
Just be there cate94 Mar 2020 #26
That's the best thing I think any friend can do. calimary Mar 2020 #32
Found this recently. I have one person that I update every few days and sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #27
That was beautiful Danmel Mar 2020 #30
💜🙏 sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #36
I'm better at practical things than emotional support canetoad Mar 2020 #31
Lots of great advise. You have already helped her, being one who she reached out Tech Mar 2020 #33
Talk regularly and listen a lot. TygrBright Mar 2020 #34
So sorry to hear of his tragic loss. wendyb-NC Mar 2020 #37
Such a hard situation to bear all around. Brogrizzly Mar 2020 #38
This thread makes me cry thecrow Mar 2020 #41

MLAA

(17,277 posts)
2. My only experience is from the loss of a boyfriend many years ago
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:32 PM
Mar 2020

All I wanted to do was talk about him and everyone around was afraid to bring him up or ask me about him. Sending you and your friend love.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
4. I am so sorry. Addiction has to to be the most heart-breaking disease.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

I have 24-year-old niece--the only child of my only sibling--who is a recovering heroin addict. She doing fine right now, finishing her degree and working, but I am always on eggshells. Every time I get a call from my sister's number my heart drops.

The only thing I know to do to help your friend is to be there when she's ready, hold her hand and simply listen or cry with her. Twenty-eight is so, so young.



Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
5. So very sorry to hear about your friend's great loss.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

Continuing to be her friend and support is probably the best thing you can do. She is in dire need of it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Oh, I am so sorry Danmel. How heartbreaking.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

Death from addiction is just the saddest thing. Just be there for her and listen to her. Let her know that you are there for her and offer her a shoulder to cry upon. You seem like a very good, kind person. I am sure she appreciates your friendship.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
7. I lost my best friend from college
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

I call it an Accidental Suicide. He didn’t want to die and didn’t mean to, but binge drinking, pills and cocaine going through a hepatitis-scarred liver killed him in his early 40s.

I was so damned angry at him for about a year, until I reunited with some of our old college friends and talked it through. It really helped to realize that I wasn’t the victim and to remember what a great guy he had been.
Goddamn the drug demons; they have taken a lot of good people.

Danmel

(4,913 posts)
10. I'm sorry about your friend
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:52 PM
Mar 2020

Anthony struggled for a long time. There was a lot of dysfunction in the family. My friend really had to battle not just with him, but with her ex husband who had issues of his own and undermined her efforts to help their son and enabled Anthony's addiction. There were times when I thought Anthony was trying and other times when I think, like most addicts, he lied a lot and told people what he figured they wanted to hear.
He had done time in prison and time in rehab and he just couldn't get it together. I always thought he would either end up in prison for a long time or end up dead because he never really seemed to get better for any real period of time.
I have never wanted to be wrong more than I am tonight.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
25. The most telling thing you said
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

“he lied a lot.”
That is the mark of an addict. They have to lie to themselves as much as they do to others.
Talk it out with your friend when she’s ready. I think it will also help you to accept being one of many that he left behind.

Peace to you, friend.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
35. Lost mine from preschool at age 31 somewhat similarly
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:08 AM
Mar 2020

I fought his drugs and alcohol for more than half his life and lost.
Terrible wound. I'll never get over it even though it happened in 1985.
I wasn't mad. I couldn't stop going over it and over it trying to determine where I screwed up or what I could have done to avoid it.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
11. I know two families who lost children to addiction
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

My best friend’s daughter (age38)
My close friends’ son (age 27)

Both had been in rehab off and on for years. Both addicted to heroine. Both died from fentanyl overdose.

My best friend liked to talk about her daughter
My other friends got some relief getting together with old friends ... the ones who knew their kids when they were little

Unless she pushes you away, call and make specific times to come to her house to bring food or wine. There is no comfort being with anyone who didn’t love their child. Looks like you fit the bill. Being there will help her.

One nightmare is over (addiction) and another one (death) begins. Don’t be afraid if she has intermittent pain and relief. Some days my friends would take comfort that they knew where their child was ... he/she was not out on the street scoring drugs.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
12. Talk to her
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:55 PM
Mar 2020

about her son. So often people are afraid to bring up the subject after someone you love dies. The chance to remember and to cry with a good friend are a big part of healing.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
40. Make sure she is eating well
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:55 AM
Mar 2020

I lost my partner of 20+ years at home when he fell and couldn’t be revived. Tragic trauma.
After a couple weeks family and friends faded away. It got lonely. I didn’t eat well. It was like I forgot how. So that is part of recovery after a shock like your friend has been through.
That and let her talk about it. I found that being able to talk about it even repeating it, was healing. I had to come to terms with it. It’s a process.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
14. Dear Danmel, your friend is in shock. She doesn't have any idea yet what just happened - it's
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

too much for her to even begin to comprehend at this moment (and for the weeks and months ahead).

Being there, which will be excruciating for you, is the greatest gift you can offer right now, and you know what, some of your delicious home-cooked food will just be so appreciated, even though she may not be able to express her gratitude to you.

Can you bring her some cat or dog food, water her plants, get her lawn weeded and mowed for her? And maybe, if she has been too distracted lately to do so, maybe you can bring her some cans of food and yes, toilet paper, and other household things to get her through the (most likely) perilous onslaught we’re facing?

You are a good best friend, and I swear, she might not even know you’re there, D, but you don’t even care, because you love her so dearly.

Sending you all best wishes,
Sandy

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
15. Just be there for her.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:07 PM
Mar 2020

I wrote more, and deleted.

When my daughter was killed, people said things they didn't know were hurtful. Example: I know all my kids are still alive because gawd knows I couldn't take it if one of my kids died. I was actively offended by the woman who assured me on more than one occasion that she "understood." Well, she could not understand because her child was still alive. It would have been good if she could have understood that.

People who said the right thing admitted that they could not fathom what i was going through. They never told me what they would do if it was their child. They listened faithfully and did not judge me when the loss left me dysfunctional for longer than they thought it should.

Ask your friend what you can do and continue to do so. After the shock begins to wear off (for me it was about 2 1/2 months, then the real pain hit), you may be able to advocate grief counseling, which I found very helpful. I think a peer group of parents whose children died from an overdose could be especially helpful for her.

It took a long, long time. years. Your friend may recover faster than I did, or it could take longer. It's a grief that never goes away, but is manageable over time, in my experience. Eventually I could pursue happiness again, and live in a way that was worthwhile and meaningful for me.

This book was gifted to me, I want to say it was from my MADD woman, but not sure. I've since bought it for other recently bereaved mothers. https://www.amazon.com/No-Time-Goodbyes-Coping-Injustice/dp/1878321404/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=no+time+for+good-bye&qid=1584068298&sr=8-2

I'm so sorry this happened to your friend, and her son.

Danmel

(4,913 posts)
20. Thank you so much for sharing this
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

I am so sorry for your tragic loss.
I'm so sad for her. And for him because he never really understood how special he was and how much he was loved.
I've known him since the day he was born. In fact, I got drafted into duty at his bris because other than his father, (and the mohel of course) I was the only Jewish person there.
It is surreal, even though it is not really a surprise. My friend has had a lot of loss in her life. This is by far the worst. I will reach out to her tomorrow. She is with her boyfriend and I'm sure her daughter is with them. We are very close. But I am not her family and dont want to push it. But I am just so sad.
I am also going to have a hard time missing work right now because I work for a NYS elected official and we are buried with coronavirus and upcoming ballot petition deadlines. Let me just sat this us NOT the best time to be going door to door asking people to sign stuff.

And we are short staffed and my boss is up in Albany for a good part of next week.
I'm beside myself. Things are seriously messed up right now.i will order the book to give her in the future.
Thanks again for your support. Sending love and a socially separated virtual hug to you.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
39. This--such great advice.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:32 AM
Mar 2020

Absolutely.

Anyone with the capacity for empathy understands that, at times, it literally hurts. I understand your pain, but you are blessed to be able to feel. Far too many cannot. But because you can, this is a moment at which your special gift of empathy, caring, and compassion can begin healing you both. Take time...share, overcome, grow together, bond. The cosmos intends this.

I'm very sorry for the pain you are bother feeling. You are in our thoughts as you both go forward and heal through the power of shared compassion.

This is one of life's important journeys. Will you please update us on your course if you can?

Warpy

(111,244 posts)
16. Do a lot of listening without trying to fix things
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:13 PM
Mar 2020

because some things can't be fixed, only talked through so that they begin to make some sense.

Narcan isn't magic, but it does give a person the best chance of surviving an accidental overdose. Your friend did the right things and she did the best she could.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
29. Good advice
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:51 PM
Mar 2020

Just listen
It’s early to mention this to her but you can see if there is a support group in your area for other people in her situation

moreland01

(738 posts)
17. Same here.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

My best friend's son died from accidental overdose at 21.
All she wanted was to know that we wouldn't forget him or her pain. Every year I still send her a card so she knows I haven't forgotten him. She still cries every year when I call. Over 10 years now.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
18. A cousin of mine recently lost her granddaughter to an overdose.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

And very good friends of mine lost a grandson to the same thing.

The one thing my cousin told me is that she feels like everyone else has forgotten that this happened three months ago. I always gently ask her if she feels the need to talk about her granddaughter. And if she's in the mood, she does. I just let her know I'm here for her anytime of the day or night. We live on opposite ends of the country. I've told her she can pick up the phone and scream and yell, or cry on my shoulder over the phone, I'm here for her.

Do the same for your friend. Right now she'll have a lot more support than she will in the coming months. I know this for a fact because when I lost my parents that's what happened to me. So let her know you're going to be there in the long run.

And I'm so sorry for you, because this is a loss for you as well.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Just let her know you're available and listen when and if
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

she talks about him. When she does, join in and talk about him. I lost my only son too.

The worst part is when people suddenly shut up when I talked about him. What I talked about was never about his death. It was simple things like remembering something my son said or did in his life. People don’t know what to say or think they don’t want to remind you he’s dead which is a terrible reaction. People think you should move on but you never will. There is no moving on. A parent is always aware of the fact their child is dead. No one can suddenly REMIND us of that death. We KNOW it!

Be aware of the stages of grief. You can find plenty of information online. The stages can be fast or they can take a very long time. One of those stages is anger. Your friend will lash out at some point. Just try to remember it’s a stage in her grief process, even if she isn’t aware of it. The first year is hard. There’s no getting around this.

In time she’ll begin to remember the fun times. Be there for those times too.

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
21. I'm a bereaved mom, 15 years in.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:22 PM
Mar 2020

My greatest joy is hearing someone say her name. It seems so small, yet my greatest fear is that she will be forgotten. Hearing her name brings joy to my soul.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
23. That makes sense. Saying her name helps keep her memory alive.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

My parents never stopped missing my baby sister.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
22. Just sit quietly with her, and let her talk. She will probably have a lot to say,
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:31 PM
Mar 2020

but when she is quiet, she will still be appreciating your support.

And when you can, and the time seems right, share positive memories of her son, so she'll know someone else remembers him.

NewEnglandAutumn

(184 posts)
24. Me too
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

My son died a few weeks after he turned 20. He was not an addict and to the best of our knowledge rarely even used pot. One morning he 'overslept'. That was several years back and I still have days where I can't breathe. One of the things that I have trouble with is that some judge. My son was 'bad' he 'deserved' it etc. not only untrue but so hurtful. He was my baby and was loved no matter what. I would not be less hurt if he died in an accident or illness. Those who get it are so helpful.

Danmel

(4,913 posts)
28. I'm so sorry
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:48 PM
Mar 2020

And shame on people who judge when they have no idea what happened. Sometimes I think people do that as a protective mechanism. They want to think nothing like that will ever touch them or their families, so they judge other people.
It can and does happen to lots of people. Good people. I'm sorry newenglandautumn. Sending hugs and love.

cate94

(2,810 posts)
26. Just be there
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

She’ll need your love and support....and no judgements. It’s a hard enough, but I’m sure you know that in your hearts because she called you. She called you.

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
27. Found this recently. I have one person that I update every few days and
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:46 PM
Mar 2020

'talk'. Text msgs. and VMs.

People congregated around me last year when my husband died suddenly and unexpectedly of cardiac arrest. Then calls and visits dwindled. I read online that this happens. I'm not 'typically' grieving so they may be glad that I'm doing okay.

It's been the strangest experience and greatest test of my life.

Your friend and you are in my heart. 💜

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/life-gets-better/201608/when-you-dont-know-what-say

canetoad

(17,150 posts)
31. I'm better at practical things than emotional support
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:56 PM
Mar 2020

Make sure she has food (and maybe a nice bottle of wine) in the fridge.

Does she need help navigating the bureacratic requirements?

Can you run errands, make calls etc?

Tech

(1,770 posts)
33. Lots of great advise. You have already helped her, being one who she reached out
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:01 AM
Mar 2020

to in her grief. Just keep being her friend. You knew him your whole life, condolences to you as well.

TygrBright

(20,757 posts)
34. Talk regularly and listen a lot.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:05 AM
Mar 2020

Losing a child is an unfathomable horror for anyone who hasn't had the experience, and a bottomless nightmare for those who do have it.

All we can do is reach across the void and try to maintain a connection.

But that's what humans do for one another.

somberly,
Bright

wendyb-NC

(3,321 posts)
37. So sorry to hear of his tragic loss.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mar 2020

Be her friend, call her, drop by and see if she wants to go out to lunch, or for walk in the park.

Brogrizzly

(145 posts)
38. Such a hard situation to bear all around.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:21 AM
Mar 2020

Heartbreaking, for her, for you trying to navigate this.

I’d just remind her, her son had value. Her love of him had value, nothing said will ever fill a loss this great. But the effort to feel her sons memory, with your support and love, that’s what matters. Thank you for being so kind, so empathetic, we need more of this in the world, I hope you find an answer you can use for this painful situation. Really hope healing comes in helping your friend through this.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
41. This thread makes me cry
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:06 AM
Mar 2020

But thank you, everyone who wrote of their loss.
No one can fully understand losing a loved one.
It was five or fifteen years ago and yet it was just yesterday...
and it will always be yesterday.
I love it when DUers support each other. Reading all the personal stories
breaks my heart all over but I don’t feel so alone.
What a wonderful thread.

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