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tetedur

(820 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:01 AM Mar 2020

I just filled out my info for the 2020 census online. I'm puzzled why there was a question on my

"origin". I mean, what difference does that make? If they really need accurate information, could I have put "Cajun"? Would they have accepted that? Should I have said French Canadian? They weren't real clear about the definition of "origin." I opted for French.

There was also a special, separate question on whether you are Hispanic and a "guarantee" that your information would be "confidential."

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I just filled out my info for the 2020 census online. I'm puzzled why there was a question on my (Original Post) tetedur Mar 2020 OP
I'll answer the question on "origin" Throck Mar 2020 #1
Mixed with egg superpatriotman Mar 2020 #2
and probably alcohol................... Throck Mar 2020 #22
I think my answer will be "the Big Bang." Mike 03 Mar 2020 #3
Thanks for the morning chuckle. n/t Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #4
Stardust, Nt Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #10
Not me... US4u2 Mar 2020 #5
American was what I would've answered too. tetedur Mar 2020 #8
Think I will put my DNA results in.... Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #6
my answer is always "human". 2naSalit Mar 2020 #7
Here's what I think that's about MissMillie Mar 2020 #9
I have ancestors from all over western Europe The Genealogist Mar 2020 #11
Not Trump???? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #12
Parents. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #13
But! Those who hide information blow it. That's exactly what the Hortensis Mar 2020 #14
When I think of "minority" I think of race. tetedur Mar 2020 #17
Sure, we all do. But every small "needs" group swamped Hortensis Mar 2020 #21
Then The Dems Should Educate Us As To How Best.... global1 Mar 2020 #18
Or we can be adults and educate ourselves. Hortensis Mar 2020 #20
Crude, but accurate response...(nsfw) Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #15
I can't wait till I get mine, I will answer Kripton. :) Javaman Mar 2020 #16
Mine will be ornotna Mar 2020 #19
Earth NoPasaran Mar 2020 #23
I put "Czech" hauckeye Mar 2020 #24
 

US4u2

(91 posts)
5. Not me...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:29 AM
Mar 2020

I answered "American." I was born and raised here. My family was not big on labels that might elicit some kind of latent discrimination... unless you count being "human" as a label, which I must say, at this point, probably elicits a negative response from every other animal on this planet.

tetedur

(820 posts)
8. American was what I would've answered too.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:39 AM
Mar 2020

But that wasn't an option in the examples.

"American," to me, is a mix of nationalities if your ancestors have been here for a length of time. And if someone on the street asks me "what my origin is" I would say American.

2naSalit

(86,345 posts)
7. my answer is always "human".
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:35 AM
Mar 2020

I answer very basic first questions to confirm I am a human living at that address and that's really all they need to know. If they feel they need to come and ask, they can but the answers are still the same.

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
9. Here's what I think that's about
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:50 AM
Mar 2020

Sometimes government agencies and non-profits initiate aid/assistance/educational programs targeted to people of different backgrounds. Having the information of where these specific people are helps allocate the funding to locations where it is needed most.

While the information could mishandled and/or misused, I don't think the intent is nefarious.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
11. I have ancestors from all over western Europe
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:56 AM
Mar 2020

Irish, Scottish, English, French, Swiss, German, Dutch, Danish. Do they expect me to pick the country my most recent ancestor came from? The nationality I am most genetically connected to? The one my father or mother most closely identified with? Why is his question on there?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. But! Those who hide information blow it. That's exactly what the
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:03 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:40 AM - Edit history (1)

RW hardcores want: Undercounts and inaccuracies they can manipulate to screw as many groups in as many ways as possible. Democrats must constantly battle the Republicans to conduct accurate censuses to serve the people, and the better the numbers we give them the more powerful they and we are.

Acting out anti-government resentment and even paranoia on the census, just as with voting, amounts to abetting and/or surrendering to exactly what is feared. Responsible people who expect good governments are the only ones who can elect them.

And of course analysts working on many thousands of projects in and out of government must have good data. No one needs to be empowered by accurate counts more than minority groups trying to get their share of the pie. And there are far more "minorities" than we imagine. Like those whose backgrounds correlate with dispositions to a whole list of specific medical problems.

tetedur

(820 posts)
17. When I think of "minority" I think of race.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:42 AM
Mar 2020

I don't have a problem with answering a question about race. I absolutely agree that is valuable information. I just was puzzled about origins.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Sure, we all do. But every small "needs" group swamped
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

under the constant yammering of majorities for what they want is a minority. The census vastly amplifies not just their voices, but those of many who are going to develop those special needs over the next decade but don't know it.

And, then of course, there are things like who gets money for roads. If we're not in town or a wealthy neighborhood, we're in a minority group. Is that group going to need better roads to commute to the city instead of local low-pay jobs, have high birth rates over the next decade, or accelerating need for emergency healthcare?

Dems of course need to know, anti-government cons are fighting to keep it unknown.

global1

(25,225 posts)
18. Then The Dems Should Educate Us As To How Best....
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:44 AM
Mar 2020

we should answer these ambiguous questions so we don't provide answers that the Repugs can discredit or exclude to their advantage.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Or we can be adults and educate ourselves.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

After all, we ARE Dems too, right?

In a nation of 320 million people, most of whom are busy and/or not paying attention most of the time, expecting our party officials to provide individual tutoring on every issue is just not realistic.

Our part in this ongoing battle is to just answer the questions as honestly as we can. (Not to examine them suspiciously for tricks and refuse to answer to defeat some undefined but presumed insidious purpose. ) Those who use census data to serve their nation take it from there.

hauckeye

(633 posts)
24. I put "Czech"
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:16 PM
Mar 2020

but that's only my father's side. My mom's side is German/English/Swiss etc. Hard to know what to enter.

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