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Laurie Garrett: USA is on Italy trajectory for COVID-19 (Original Post)
brooklynite
Mar 2020
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dalton99a
(81,406 posts)1. Kick
DrToast
(6,414 posts)2. I'm not saying this is right or wrong
But 7-10 days ago Italys hospitals were already overwhelmed. There hasnt been much of a sigh thats happening here yet. At least on a major scale like in Italy.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)4. It's happening in Seattle -they're at where Italy was a week ago
https://theweek.com/speedreads/901695/seattlearea-hospital-italy-show-what-awaits-americas-health-care-system-coronavirus-surges
he point of canceling large events and encouraging "social distancing" as the new COVID-19 coronavirus spreads throughout the U.S. isn't to stop the disease, a goal public health experts say isn't attainable in the short run. It's to spread out the infections so the U.S. health care system isn't stretched to the breaking point. Italy, with as of early Thursday 12,462 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 827 deaths, is a stark example of what can happen when the epidemiological tidal wave breaks hard.
When Italy had 322 confirmed COVID-19 cases two weeks ago, "doctors in the country's hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient," Yascha Mounk reports at The Atlantic. A week later, with 2,502 cases, "doctors in the country's hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties," but now, with "too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care," doctors and nurses are being advised to save younger and healthier patients and let older, sicker patients die, like "wartime triage."
Things aren't quite so bleak at EvergreenHealth Medical Center, the small suburban hospital in Kirkland, Washington, that has "faced the brunt of the rapidly escalating coronavirus outbreak," with 65 positive cases and 15 deaths, and counting, The New York Times reports. But "while much of the country is just starting to see clusters of cases emerge, the hospital east of Seattle offers a window into the challenges set to cascade through the nation's health care system. ... The past few weeks have seen medical workers operating at the very edges of their capabilities, facing a virus so virulent that some patients were dying within hours of coming down with their first symptoms."
he point of canceling large events and encouraging "social distancing" as the new COVID-19 coronavirus spreads throughout the U.S. isn't to stop the disease, a goal public health experts say isn't attainable in the short run. It's to spread out the infections so the U.S. health care system isn't stretched to the breaking point. Italy, with as of early Thursday 12,462 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 827 deaths, is a stark example of what can happen when the epidemiological tidal wave breaks hard.
When Italy had 322 confirmed COVID-19 cases two weeks ago, "doctors in the country's hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient," Yascha Mounk reports at The Atlantic. A week later, with 2,502 cases, "doctors in the country's hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties," but now, with "too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care," doctors and nurses are being advised to save younger and healthier patients and let older, sicker patients die, like "wartime triage."
Things aren't quite so bleak at EvergreenHealth Medical Center, the small suburban hospital in Kirkland, Washington, that has "faced the brunt of the rapidly escalating coronavirus outbreak," with 65 positive cases and 15 deaths, and counting, The New York Times reports. But "while much of the country is just starting to see clusters of cases emerge, the hospital east of Seattle offers a window into the challenges set to cascade through the nation's health care system. ... The past few weeks have seen medical workers operating at the very edges of their capabilities, facing a virus so virulent that some patients were dying within hours of coming down with their first symptoms."
DrToast
(6,414 posts)6. I'm not sure that's accurate
Seattle is swamped, but from what Ive read theyve been able to treat everyone. In Italy they were having to just let people die because they couldnt treat everyone.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)7. Italy's problems weren't this severe 7-10 days ago
They were still able to treat people (albeit, under a great strain). Now, they're collapsing.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)3. Recommened. Garrett's been a primary go to during this
Same with Jeremy Konyndyk and Helen Branswell from Statnews.
Josh Marshall created a twitter list that's handy:
https://twitter.com/i/lists/1233998285779632128
RAB910
(3,489 posts)5. Just a reminder- Italy was the text book example of how not to handle a disease outbreak
gibraltar72
(7,499 posts)8. Lady has credibility, unlike some