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iluvtennis

(19,849 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:21 PM Mar 2020

Rachel Maddow's Friday 3/13 show - graphs for Daily New Confirmed Cases for Coronavirus

Asia - China and Korea - have reached there peaks and on the down slope



Europe - Italy and Spain
- have not started downward trend



New York City - just the beginning, still on upward slope

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Rachel Maddow's Friday 3/13 show - graphs for Daily New Confirmed Cases for Coronavirus (Original Post) iluvtennis Mar 2020 OP
So if you take the slope,i.e the derivative of these graphs drray23 Mar 2020 #1
The numbers are incredibly smaller jimfields33 Mar 2020 #3
Again that's not the important fact. drray23 Mar 2020 #4
It is very misleading jimfields33 Mar 2020 #5
The graph for the country is essentially the same. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #6
I just posted what was presented on Rachel's show. Agree, would laos like to see overall US. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #9
Totals aren't important. What's important is that it's an exponential curve Azathoth Mar 2020 #13
Wow, thanks for that analysis and insight into the rate of increase. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #10
Why did Italy dip low than soar back up? BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #2
No, she didn't mention why the dip. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #7
OK, than I am asking DUers, "Why the dip?". BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #8
Hard to tell without detailed information about their protocols. drray23 Mar 2020 #11
Thanks. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #12

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. So if you take the slope,i.e the derivative of these graphs
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM
Mar 2020

To renormalize to rate of increase, you find that the ny curve shows a factor of 3 in a week which is indeed comparable to the China scenario. The absolute value on Y axis is dependent on how much we are testing and the total nbr of people but that's not the important fact here. The rate of increase is the key point.
In the absence of social distancing, you get a faster rate of increase.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
4. Again that's not the important fact.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

That 70 is a function of how much we test and the size of the sample. What matters is that it tripled in a week.

jimfields33

(15,769 posts)
5. It is very misleading
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

You compare countries to a city within the United States. That’s not how it’s done.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
6. The graph for the country is essentially the same.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

Fewer daily fluctuations (the waves), but essentially the same curve.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
13. Totals aren't important. What's important is that it's an exponential curve
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:35 PM
Mar 2020

Most people don't understand how fast an exponential curve grows.

Start with one case and double the cases each day. In 33 days, every single person in the world has it. That's exponential growth.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
11. Hard to tell without detailed information about their protocols.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

Could be any number of things. For example, they start bending the rate but another part of italy starts reporting tests at this time and it goes back up.
Similar effect if not all testing centers report at the same time.
Similar effect if rate of testing slows down temporarily because of a lack of supplies in a particular area.

I am sure there could be any other reasons.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
12. Thanks.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

We can expect that this could happen with our numbers too than, right? I can see our numbers dipping, then fucking moron announces that all is right with the world the next day than we are back at square one. I get it now.

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