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BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:46 PM Mar 2020

What are the odds? Every person in line had body temps 4 degrees below normal.

I had to serve a summons today at a subacute residential nursing facility in Pasadena California. There was a line at the entry door because you had to sign in and state whether you’d been out of the country lately and a few other questions and then have your temperature taken. There were three people ahead of me. The first one was told her body temperature was 94.6. The second one was told that her body temperature was 95.1. The third, who I later found out was one of the principals in the ownership of the nursing home, supposedly showed a body temperature of 94.5. I was told that my body temperature was 94.2.
I told them I thought it was strange that every single person had a much lower than normal body temperature and that maybe they should re-calibrate their digital thermometer. They just shrugged and said we’re just doing what we were told.
So what are the odds that every single person,including me, is walking around with low temperatures? Unless, it’s a good thing for the nursing home to be reporting that absolutely no one entering the facility has a fever. Probably keeps the health department away.

By the way I was serving a summons for wrongful death on the facility. Things that make you go hmmmm.

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What are the odds? Every person in line had body temps 4 degrees below normal. (Original Post) BamaRefugee Mar 2020 OP
Very unlikely Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #1
VA recently dropped normal from 98.6 to 97.6. Even so, those were low, was it cold outside ... marble falls Mar 2020 #2
I'm a 97er. If I get to 99 I have a fever. Lochloosa Mar 2020 #15
Same here. 97.5 or 97.6 is the norm for me. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #31
Holy crap, Dem2theMax! No! That's not good! BComplex Mar 2020 #38
Yes. Started with a runny, stuffy nose two weeks ago. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #43
Me too. 97.7 is normal for me. katmondoo Mar 2020 #52
99 is my normal. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2020 #36
97er: Same here. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #51
Mine is usually 96.4 ish mahina Mar 2020 #3
Mine's low too. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #6
How about that mahina Mar 2020 #7
My wife and I are always 97.6. We don't feel special anymore! marble falls Mar 2020 #16
People from Marble Falls are special. BComplex Mar 2020 #39
Mine is running low Generic Brad Mar 2020 #4
Mine was 96.8 last night marlakay Mar 2020 #5
Hyperthermia is too WARM. Tipperary Mar 2020 #29
Lol must have typed it wrong...nt marlakay Mar 2020 #37
It was cold and pouring rain today. We had just walked in, and they took temps off of our foreheads. BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #8
From the forehead after coming in from the rain? Hav Mar 2020 #11
Yes caraher Mar 2020 #34
Lot a cold blooded people in Pasadena this afternoon . . . Journeyman Mar 2020 #9
Hahahahahaha. Truth! BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #12
I'm usually pretty low BGBD Mar 2020 #10
I had only walked 15 feet from a very warm truck to the door. With a hoodie on. BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #14
Yeah BGBD Mar 2020 #21
Yep, forehead, not touching, about 6 inches away BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #22
There it is BGBD Mar 2020 #24
It might have been a little closer. But I was like DO NOT TOUCH ME WITH THAT! I mean I'm already BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #25
need to calibrate that device dweller Mar 2020 #13
They need to use a rectal thermometer. They're more accurate. Beakybird Mar 2020 #17
That would be a festive line to be in. BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #18
ROFLMAO!! BComplex Mar 2020 #40
Best laugh of the day! 😂 Duppers Mar 2020 #46
Lololol nini Mar 2020 #55
. crickets Mar 2020 #23
Ha Ha. You're serving us ? Well, we are serving you a big ol'butt thermometer. Captain Zero Mar 2020 #49
Friend's was 68 degrees KT2000 Mar 2020 #19
Yeah, this thermometer didn't touch, just aimed at your forehead, like a cop with a radar gun BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #20
I hope she took it well. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #32
+ gotta laugh! KT2000 Mar 2020 #44
Hey, we all know what it means to look for an excuse Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #47
I used the temp gun to take 84 yr old husband's temp MLAA Mar 2020 #26
He sounds like a keeper! Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #33
That he is! MLAA Mar 2020 #53
I love hearing stories like that! Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #54
Love it!! KT2000 Mar 2020 #45
Hypothermia central scrutinizer Mar 2020 #27
Yes. Unless you all were exposed to the cold without protection for long enough... pat_k Mar 2020 #42
Long ago I was at a street fair and I hadn't been to a doc for awhile and there was a hospital clini lunasun Mar 2020 #28
How do you calibrate or recalibrate a digital thermometer? oldtime dfl_er Mar 2020 #30
Maybe we just add 2 degrees in our heads. Or maybe we're evolving cooler, to offset global warming? BamaRefugee Mar 2020 #35
Weak batteries... Historic NY Mar 2020 #41
Bought an Oral thermometer last week, it read 96.5 when I tested it. lostnfound Mar 2020 #48
This is part where we discuss precision vs accuracy. Bantamfancier Mar 2020 #50

Turin_C3PO

(13,952 posts)
1. Very unlikely
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:48 PM
Mar 2020

the temps were accurate. Those are pretty low readings, I’d be surprised if even one of you was that low.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
2. VA recently dropped normal from 98.6 to 97.6. Even so, those were low, was it cold outside ...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mar 2020

did everyone have an iced drink?

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
43. Yes. Started with a runny, stuffy nose two weeks ago.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:09 AM
Mar 2020

Thought it was allergies. Then I started getting tightness in my chest, started coughing the last three days, fever for the last four days. Probably had a fever sooner, but I didn't even think to check it. (Because my temperature is always low!) I have the most horrible chills, and then I get really hot, and that's been happening for two weeks.

I started self isolating immediately, on the off chance I might have the Coronavirus. I was really thinking it was an upper respiratory infection that I get a few times a year. I have to take Enbrel for arthritis, and it really wrecks your immune system. So it never really dawned on me that it was anything other than this upper respiratory infection caused by the Enbrel.

I finally gave in and called my doctor today, and at the time I called her, my temperature was only 99.8, and my cough wasn't as bad. It never fails, as soon as 6 p.m. rolled around and my doctor is no longer at work, temperature went up to 100.3, which is the magic number they are looking for, and my cough got worse.

Doctors office told me to call if the temperature went up to 100.3 and the cough got worse. So tomorrow I will call Urgent Care and see what they say. I am without a car at the moment. So even if they say there's a test available for me, there is no way for me to get to the test.

I live in an over 55 community, and the average age is somewhere in the 75 to 90 range. I will be 64 this year, so I'm one of the youngsters. I don't dare ask anyone to drive me while I'm in this condition. So if I don't get better, I will be calling an ambulance. Unless they figure out a way to get the tests to those of us who don't have any way to get to them. What a mess! And I live alone. So I have to do it all myself.

I know this was a bit of a long reply. Thought it would help to share my symptoms in case anyone else is starting to feel the same way. Again, I do not know if this is definitely Coronavirus. But I never have a fever. So this is really weird.

Good news. Just took my temperature and it came down for the first time in three days. It's 99.7. That is the lowest it has been. Maybe I am taking a turn for the better!

Bad news. Either a skunk is under my house, or something crawled under there and died. I cannot use my second bathroom because it smells so bad in there! This just happened in the past few hours. I kept smelling something and couldn't figure out what it was. I live out in the middle the food chain, and doggone it if a skunk got under my house. AAAARRRRRGGGG!

Why do these things always happen to me?

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
39. People from Marble Falls are special.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:13 AM
Mar 2020

Never doubt that! Nice area. I used to live in Bee Cave when I went to UT.

marlakay

(11,447 posts)
5. Mine was 96.8 last night
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:53 PM
Mar 2020

I googled and found out as you get older your normal temp goes down a bit and i always have had a low normal. So if older people were in line maybe but i read under 95 starts to be hyperthermia.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
8. It was cold and pouring rain today. We had just walked in, and they took temps off of our foreheads.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

Would that factor in?

Seems weird.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
11. From the forehead after coming in from the rain?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:09 PM
Mar 2020

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you cannot compare that to the average temperature taken from a part inside the body.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
9. Lot a cold blooded people in Pasadena this afternoon . . .
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

Usually only see them in Hollywood or down near Pershing Square.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
10. I'm usually pretty low
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

in the morning, 96.x, but 94 for someone up and moving around is highly unlikely and four people in a row is astronomically low. That is unless all four of you had advanced sepsis.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
14. I had only walked 15 feet from a very warm truck to the door. With a hoodie on.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

I think the thermometer was calibrated low on purpose. When one of the OWNERS of the facility gets a ridiculous low reading, and says absolutely nothing, seems like the fix is in.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
21. Yeah
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:47 PM
Mar 2020

The thermometer was low for sure.

Was it a forehead deal? Those are really picky, if you don't have them at just the right distance the read won't be correct.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
25. It might have been a little closer. But I was like DO NOT TOUCH ME WITH THAT! I mean I'm already
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020

going into a nursing home for cripes sake, not where I wanna be in the current environment.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
19. Friend's was 68 degrees
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:34 PM
Mar 2020

they just got the new ones that don't even have to touch the skin. I had to break it to her that she was dead.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
32. I hope she took it well.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:13 AM
Mar 2020


I know. The coronavirus isn't funny. But sometimes situations present themselves and you just have to go with them.

MLAA

(17,274 posts)
26. I used the temp gun to take 84 yr old husband's temp
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:21 AM
Mar 2020

He was standing by the bed when I put it a couple inches from his forehead and pulled the trigger he immediately dramatically fell back on the bed dead! I was laughing so hard I could only sputter ‘well I’ve murdered my husband and have nothing to live for’ then I shot myself with it and fell back beside him. Just might be the funniest thing he has done in our 32 year marriage and he has cracked me up many times before.

MLAA

(17,274 posts)
53. That he is!
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

We’ve been married for 32 years. Some thought I was making a mistake marrying someone 25 years older than I am, but man we’ve been happy!

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
42. Yes. Unless you all were exposed to the cold without protection for long enough...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:55 AM
Mar 2020

... to start becoming hypothermic, the measuring device was off.

And whoever accepted all those below 95 temperatures was an idiot.

One time, when backpacking with a small group, we were caught in a sudden storm. Got tents up and into warmth as quickly as possible, but as we were setting up, we all began to suffer the early effects of hypothermia. It is difficult to think straight. Everything seems to take forever. You stumble. You feel all wrong.

It is a scary experience.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. Long ago I was at a street fair and I hadn't been to a doc for awhile and there was a hospital clini
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

giving free blood pressure tests . The very sleepy eyed young woman who took my bp said with no reaction something like 75/42 . I just said thanks and thought hmm not checking out that clinic ever.
Yeah they need to recalibrate that temp it’s showing everyone low and yes hmmm

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
30. How do you calibrate or recalibrate a digital thermometer?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:10 AM
Mar 2020

My temp is usally in the 96 to 97 range, and I just assumed that was me. But maybe I need to recalibrate?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
41. Weak batteries...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:40 AM
Mar 2020

the Center where I go has all brand new BP and Temp machines on fancy roll around carts. Everytime I would go I'd have the same reading for a BP...which I thought was odd. I have a machine at home and it sometimes takes a 3rd reading to be right if it is not plug into house current. Turns out they were not properly calibrated, they just hooked them up and that was it. My Dr finally did it the old fashioned way to obtain an accurate reading. They have battery backup or power interrupt in them which also needs to be changed.

I have one of the point and shoot thermometer guns to checking radiator temperatures, you have to clear the previous reading (Zero it out) before taking a second.

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
48. Bought an Oral thermometer last week, it read 96.5 when I tested it.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:38 AM
Mar 2020

I don’t understand. Starting to wish for the old mercury ones. Not sure I trust these digital kind anymore.

Bantamfancier

(366 posts)
50. This is part where we discuss precision vs accuracy.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:23 AM
Mar 2020

Digital devices can be as precise as hell, but totally inaccurate.

Medical thermometers are usually within 0.5 degrees F +/-.

The cheaper digital thermometers can be up to 3.5 degrees F +/-. Which is totally useless.

Easiest way to check is to measure it against ice water then boiling water.

If your readings are correct for them, then you can trust it’s midrange readings.

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