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Does anyone have advice for cleaning N95 masks?, usually single use but that's out the window (Original Post) Demonaut Mar 2020 OP
I have to wear N95 for my job sometimes mrs_p Mar 2020 #1
I don't think you can clean it unless you have a reusable respirator. LisaL Mar 2020 #2
Reuse is very risky and may not protect if they were saturated as that destroys the filter hlthe2b Mar 2020 #3
Don't use them. They concentrate the virus. It's a CONTACT virus, not an aerosol. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #4
Where in the world are you getting this information? LisaL Mar 2020 #10
CDC good enough? Droplets NOT aerosol. Stand six ft fr talkers sufficient to avoid spittle droplets. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #14
BTW."New coronavirus may spread as an airborne aerosol, like SARS" librechik Mar 2020 #16
Your selective editing omitted this key subheadline consistent with CDC guidelines: Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #18
We are speaking about health care settings, aren't we? librechik Mar 2020 #20
Although N95 masks are for health care settings, I don't think the Original Post was about that. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #22
It is believed to be aerosol. There was a March 10 panel moonscape Mar 2020 #19
You carefully omitted the key subheadline: "health care settings" Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #21
I didn't 'carefully omit' anything. I have no opinion moonscape Mar 2020 #23
Droplets are not aerosol. Latter occurs in medical procedures (intubation). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #24
Based on my completely baseless guess Danascot Mar 2020 #5
Flame sterilization jberryhill Mar 2020 #6
Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh. mrs_p Mar 2020 #9
Don't jpak Mar 2020 #7
I find that most potentially life or death questions jberryhill Mar 2020 #8
Hello jpak Mar 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Mar 2020 #13
Sorry! jpak Mar 2020 #17
Oh sure. Next you'll be telling us not reuse our toilet paper. n/t sl8 Mar 2020 #11
THis is probably a stupid suggestion, but what about those sanitizers for Sleep Apnoea gear? librechik Mar 2020 #15
Washable scarf as a viable substitute? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #25
I have a SoClean gab13by13 Mar 2020 #26
Ozone generator? and maybe check with UV light? LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #27

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
1. I have to wear N95 for my job sometimes
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:54 AM
Mar 2020

Since I work with lots of infectious diseases.

I don’t know how to clean them because you really are not supposed to - they are to be discarded.

Any advice you get on how to clean them here will not be accurate information

Also, if you haven’t been fitted for one you are wearing, it may not be helping you at all. I have to be fitted yearly to make sure I have the right style for my face.

hlthe2b

(102,228 posts)
3. Reuse is very risky and may not protect if they were saturated as that destroys the filter
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

Not to mention self-contamination from handling it. It could be a constant source of contamination sitting there and even though you might put it in a plastic bag left open to dry, the possibility of its being picked up by others, or your picking up at a contaminated area when redonning are significant. Further, the interior of the mask could get contaminated in the process, actually increasing your risk, since it is directly to your mouth and nose.

That said, all you could do is try to let it dry and be exceedingly cautious in redonning. But, for all the resons mentioned this is why it is not recommended. Sort of like trying to convince yourself that you can use an unopened needle that dropped in a contaminated area of the table. Yeah, the interior of the needle might still be sterile, but the odds of not conveying contamination picking it up to use it are slim.

They are single-use only and biohazard.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
4. Don't use them. They concentrate the virus. It's a CONTACT virus, not an aerosol.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:58 AM
Mar 2020

Very little aerosol, except in some medical procedures like intubation, where it is good. Intubate much?

I will not be wearing one, but I will stand two metres (yards) away from people when talking out in public to avoid sprayed spittle.

The virus gathers on the surface of the mask because it is a filter.

You will be much safer NOT TOUCHING YOUR FACE and WASHING your hands frequently with SOAP (hand cleaner not nearly as good).

It is a contact virus. Someone wipes their nose absentmindedly and opens a door. Three people open the door no problems because they don't touch their face. Fourth one gets it on their hand and absentmindedly touches the corner of their mouth. Booom!

If you really have to re-use one, you could try steaming it for 20 minutes (guessing) or microwaving on high for 2 minutes (guessing).

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Where in the world are you getting this information?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:00 AM
Mar 2020

Virus is spread primarily via respiratory droplets and close contact. Respiratory droplets-got it?

"Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the causative agent of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19), is presumed to spread primarily via respiratory droplets and close contact."
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/6/20-0412_article

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
14. CDC good enough? Droplets NOT aerosol. Stand six ft fr talkers sufficient to avoid spittle droplets.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

Droplets are not aerosol. Contact means actual touching, transferring by contact with hands to face primarily.

https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/ highlights CDC (and other health authorities) recommend healthy people NOT wear masks

Health Experts Are Telling Healthy People Not to Wear Face Masks for Coronavirus. So Why Are So Many Doing It?

By Mandy Oaklander
March 4, 2020

As the new coronavirus COVID-19 spreads in the U.S., people who are well want to stay that way. But since no vaccines are currently available, the strongest weapons Americans have are basic preventive measures like hand-washing and sanitizing surfaces, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The simplicity of those recommendations is likely unsettling to people anxious to do more to protect themselves, so it’s no surprise that face masks are in short supply—despite the CDC specifically not recommending them for healthy people trying to protect against COVID-19. “It seems kind of intuitively obvious that if you put something—whether it’s a scarf or a mask—in front of your nose and mouth, that will filter out some of these viruses that are floating around out there,” says Dr. William Schaffner, professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University. The only problem: that’s not effective against respiratory illnesses like the flu and COVID-19. If it were, “the CDC would have recommended it years ago,” he says. “It doesn’t, because it makes science-based recommendations.”


Masks are good for medical personnel but even there the CDC has relaxed guidelines.

Although masks help contain the virus within infected people wearing a mask, those infected people should NOT be out and about.

The science, according to the CDC, says that surgical masks won’t stop the wearer from inhaling small airborne particles, which can cause infection. Nor do these masks form a snug seal around the face.


librechik

(30,674 posts)
16. BTW."New coronavirus may spread as an airborne aerosol, like SARS"
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:16 AM
Mar 2020

"The novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 can survive in the air for several hours in fine particles known as aerosols, according to preliminary research.

The coronavirus, which causes the respiratory infection COVID-19, can be detected up to 3 hours after aerosolization and can infect cells throughout that time period, the study authors found. However, the study, first posted March 10 is preliminary.."


https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html

Better safe than sorry and assume it's floating in the air around you-- we are truly fucked.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
18. Your selective editing omitted this key subheadline consistent with CDC guidelines:
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:30 AM
Mar 2020

However, it's unlikely that the virus would spread in this way beyond health care settings.


librechik

(30,674 posts)
20. We are speaking about health care settings, aren't we?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

But you are right, should have included that. I just don't like the word "Unlikely"

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
19. It is believed to be aerosol. There was a March 10 panel
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:31 AM
Mar 2020

at UCSF (Univ CA at San Francisco) with these participants:

Panelists
Joe DeRisi: UCSF’s top infectious disease researcher. Co-president of ChanZuckerberg BioHub (a JV involving UCSF / Berkeley / Stanford). Co-inventor of the chip used in SARS epidemic.
Emily Crawford: COVID task force director. Focused on diagnostics
Cristina Tato: Rapid Response Director. Immunologist.
Patrick Ayescue: Leading outbreak response and surveillance. Epidemiologist.
Chaz Langelier: UCSF Infectious Disease doc


They said:

Three routes of infection
Hand to mouth / face
Aerosol transmission
Fecal oral route


https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html

The novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 can survive in the air for several hours in fine particles known as aerosols, according to preliminary research.

The coronavirus, which causes the respiratory infection COVID-19, can be detected up to 3 hours after aerosolization and can infect cells throughout that time period, the study authors found. However, the study, first posted March 10 on the preprint database medRxiv, is still preliminary, because it has not undergone extensive peer-review. The authors did receive comments from one prospective scientific journal, and posted an updated version of the study on March 13 reflecting the revisions.






Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
21. You carefully omitted the key subheadline: "health care settings"
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

In health-care they do some aerosol generating procedures like intubuation. Do you intubate much?

Here is the key subheadline:

However, it's unlikely that the virus would spread in this way beyond health care settings.

This is why CDC guidance is to not wear a mask, to wash with SOAP, and AVOID TOUCHING FACE.

See my post #14 in this thread

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
23. I didn't 'carefully omit' anything. I have no opinion
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:46 AM
Mar 2020

agenda or investment. It was only a comment about your bolded 'NOT' an aerosol.





Danascot

(4,690 posts)
5. Based on my completely baseless guess
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

I would soak it in a solution of water and detergent. The exterior shell of this corona virus is composed of fat and is readily dissolved by soap. That's one of the reasons why hand washing is so important.

After the detergent soak, I would soak it in plain water to rinse, then hang it up to dry or gently dry it with a hair dryer. As a last step I would spray it with alcohol from a spray bottle to destroy any other lurking bad stuff

Just a suggestion.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. Flame sterilization
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:22 AM
Mar 2020

First, saturate it in isopropyl.

Then, strike a lighter and move the flame across the entire exterior and interior surface.

That’ll take care of it.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
9. Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:58 AM
Mar 2020

Seriously, though, please OP don’t try to reuse them.

If you are very worried, keep distance from people. Order your groceries and have them left on the porch (if you can). Wash hands, wash hands, wash hands, don’t touch face, do not touch your face, your face don’t touch.

I wish you all well and good health!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. I find that most potentially life or death questions
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:56 AM
Mar 2020

Are answered reliably by strangers using pseudonyms.

jpak

(41,757 posts)
12. Hello
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020

I have published peer reviewed research on bacteria and viruses.

Worked in clean rooms with laminar flow hoods.

And you?

Response to jpak (Reply #12)

librechik

(30,674 posts)
15. THis is probably a stupid suggestion, but what about those sanitizers for Sleep Apnoea gear?
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:06 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe it would fit. Just close the lid and come back later for clean PAP equipment.

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