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Trump's physician is not an MD (Original Post) DURHAM D Mar 2020 OP
Ignorant statement. DOs and MDs are the same in their training post-med school dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
Yes. This is an ignorant statement from George. Many confuse osteopaths with chiropracters. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #3
AFAIK The DOs have to take an extra class in osteopathic manipulation in med school dalton99a Mar 2020 #6
Yes. They do some manipulation. Basically they are more "hands-on" Not a bad thing at all. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #8
DO is basically the same thing. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #2
DOs get the same basic medical training MDs do. Dave Starsky Mar 2020 #4
Nothing wrong with DOs my doc is a DO and she's fantastic. we can do it Mar 2020 #5
Same here rusty fender Mar 2020 #28
George, take a mulligan Cirque du So-What Mar 2020 #7
+1. There is never a better time to denigrate an entire segment of the healthcare workforce dalton99a Mar 2020 #25
Nevertheless, I think the doc is afraid of Trump's rage if he insists on testing him. hedda_foil Mar 2020 #9
A DO is a real physician, but not getting tested is downright reckless. tinrobot Mar 2020 #10
It's not like Trump met with at least a couple of confirmed Covid cases Bucky Mar 2020 #16
I suggest the OP delete this. onenote Mar 2020 #11
George Conway is still married to Kellyanne Conway, expert in alternative facts dalton99a Mar 2020 #21
Nobody getting into Medical School rejects it to become a D.O. but BurgherHoldtheLies Mar 2020 #12
Residency is key. All DOs and MDs train under the same residency system dalton99a Mar 2020 #13
But not all residency programs are equal either BurgherHoldtheLies Mar 2020 #15
You don't need to train at Hopkins or Harvard to treat most medical conditions dalton99a Mar 2020 #19
agreed n/t BurgherHoldtheLies Mar 2020 #20
D.O.'s also go to medical school democrattotheend Mar 2020 #14
They have "their own" medical schools, that's true. n/t BurgherHoldtheLies Mar 2020 #17
It's interesting how DUers are more interested in getting facts right than trashing Trump Bucky Mar 2020 #18
I would never select an Osteopath as my primary care physician SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #22
Why? Same training and residency experience. NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #23
You are likely to be treated by a DO in an ER in many locales dalton99a Mar 2020 #24
Aww ... obnoxiousdrunk Mar 2020 #29
I'm a nurse who worked with many DO's. No difference in training. Your thinking is waaaasy Cousin Dupree Mar 2020 #30
Best primary doc I ever had was a DO grantcart Mar 2020 #33
Arggh Gothmog Mar 2020 #26
Stupid thing to say for a Harvard/Yale grad dalton99a Mar 2020 #27
They'll let anybody in a clowncar these days..... lindysalsagal Mar 2020 #31
DO's get the same training as MD's. It used to be different many moons ago. Not now. Cousin Dupree Mar 2020 #32
They used to be a distinctive branch of American medicine but have long merged with MDs in practice dalton99a Mar 2020 #34

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
1. Ignorant statement. DOs and MDs are the same in their training post-med school
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:56 AM
Mar 2020

They are under the same residency accreditation agency and have to take the same certification boards

hlthe2b

(102,120 posts)
3. Yes. This is an ignorant statement from George. Many confuse osteopaths with chiropracters.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:59 AM
Mar 2020

Osteopaths are licensed as physicians the same nationwide as MD's. Their training is nearly identical with slightly more emphasis on physical exam (not at all a bad thing) and related.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
6. AFAIK The DOs have to take an extra class in osteopathic manipulation in med school
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:03 AM
Mar 2020

otherwise their training is identical - same textbooks and all


NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
2. DO is basically the same thing.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:58 AM
Mar 2020

They just get more training in some aspects of caring for patients. They have all the same legal privileges of a medical doctor.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
25. +1. There is never a better time to denigrate an entire segment of the healthcare workforce
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

than a national medical crisis


hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
9. Nevertheless, I think the doc is afraid of Trump's rage if he insists on testing him.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:18 AM
Mar 2020

Remember Trump's belief that sickness is weakness and he can never be weak. In the meantime, the WH is probably a hotbed of virus.

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
10. A DO is a real physician, but not getting tested is downright reckless.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

Doctors with great training can still be quacks.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
16. It's not like Trump met with at least a couple of confirmed Covid cases
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:34 AM
Mar 2020

Bolsonaro and that idiot from Florida. Anyone else?

onenote

(42,585 posts)
11. I suggest the OP delete this.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:24 AM
Mar 2020

Before more people spread this misinformation.

Yes, it is technically true that the WH Physician is not an "MD". But standing alone, it creates the false impression that he is not a doctor with training in the field of medicine comparable to that of a DO.

BurgherHoldtheLies

(4,137 posts)
12. Nobody getting into Medical School rejects it to become a D.O. but
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:28 AM
Mar 2020

the reverse is often true. Many D.O.'s choose that route because they got rejected by medical schools because their academic profile wasn't top tier.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
13. Residency is key. All DOs and MDs train under the same residency system
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:30 AM
Mar 2020

You cannot practice without residency.

BurgherHoldtheLies

(4,137 posts)
15. But not all residency programs are equal either
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

I've worked with some good DOs but I was just making the point that MD's are usually your top tier academic students.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
19. You don't need to train at Hopkins or Harvard to treat most medical conditions
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:44 AM
Mar 2020

or run a stent or do a colonoscopy for that matter

Is it a good thing to train at a top-tier institution? No doubt. But the difference is mostly academic. Those places are great for doing research/zebra cases and get a job in academic medicine, where prestige and pedigree are important.



democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
14. D.O.'s also go to medical school
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

My sister in law was in med school for I believe the same amount of time as she would have had to do for an MD. And I don't know if she could have become an MD or not, but she said she chose DO because there is more acceptance of a holistic approach that incorporates CAM.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
23. Why? Same training and residency experience.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:33 PM
Mar 2020

Just a different title with extra focus on remembering it’s a person they are treating. For primary care, I find PAs are the best. They listen far better than doctors.

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
24. You are likely to be treated by a DO in an ER in many locales
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:27 PM - Edit history (1)

unless you wear a big medical bracelet that says only MDs can touch your body

Better yet, try to avoid any medical emergency


dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
34. They used to be a distinctive branch of American medicine but have long merged with MDs in practice
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:40 PM
Mar 2020

The old DOs were basically stubborn old goats who refused to join the American Medical Association.

In the 1960s the California Medical Association tried to force them out of business and convert them to MDs for a $65 filing fee.

They fought and won and were allowed to keep their separate identity and their own state licensing board (Osteopathic Physicians & Surgeons v. California Medical Association).

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