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totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:32 PM Mar 2020

I can understand staying away from crowded restaurants. That would be social distancing. But what

about the food itself? If I had Grubhub deliver food from a restaurant would that be safe? Or could the virus potentially be living on the packaging that the food comes in?

My wife and I often go out to eat on Saturday night but we are having second thoughts about it. But we would still like to get a nice restaurant cooked meal if it's safe to have it delivered.

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I can understand staying away from crowded restaurants. That would be social distancing. But what (Original Post) totodeinhere Mar 2020 OP
Or the delivery driver could be infected I suppose. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #1
Yea, that too. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #4
This is a good chance to go into those fancy restaurants you couldn't get into before Renew Deal Mar 2020 #2
!! 'Plague Doc' avatar, wow appalachiablue Mar 2020 #14
You like? Renew Deal Mar 2020 #15
Yes, what a document of historical times past: appalachiablue Mar 2020 #21
I would think delivery services are REALLY cracking down these days... FirstLight Mar 2020 #3
Good advice, but we're hearing that people can be infectious before having symptoms. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #7
Stay home don't order out! jpak Mar 2020 #5
OK thanks. That's why I was asking. We are both in a high risk group. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #8
Ready to eat cooked food would be fine unless someone sneezed into it. hlthe2b Mar 2020 #6
Thanks. Maybe we better home cook tonight. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #9
I have thought the very same thing Lulu KC Mar 2020 #10
Right. A lot of restaurants operate on a very small margin as it is. A lot of them are going to have totodeinhere Mar 2020 #13
I fell lucky to be single and retired so I can go grocery shopping very early in the morning. brewens Mar 2020 #11
ummm...microwave? n/t katusha Mar 2020 #12
This entire situation is so gross, I've pretty much ecstatic Mar 2020 #16
Spray or wipe down packaging w Lysol/Disinfect. and maybe appalachiablue Mar 2020 #17
Another thread on this topic. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #20
Thanks appalachiablue Mar 2020 #24
The virus can remain viable on surfaces for awhile. A few hours to a few days. Kaleva Mar 2020 #18
abstain for a few weeks - not that hard lame54 Mar 2020 #19
There's a good article in the Atlantic about food tinrobot Mar 2020 #22
Yes. Beyond putting one's self in a plastic bubble, it may be impossible to completely insulate coti Mar 2020 #23
The harsh reality... Brainfodder Mar 2020 #25
Every contact carries some probability of infection. euphorb Mar 2020 #26
The way I heard it explained was if the virus gets in your mouth and you swallow it, the acid in you SamKnause Mar 2020 #27
Wash your hands, don't touch your face, at home as well as away from home uppityperson Mar 2020 #28
Not necessarily safe. Here's the thing..... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #29
I would probably be OK with Zambero Mar 2020 #30
Nothing is more romantic than cooking a meal procon Mar 2020 #31
Good advice. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2020 #32

FirstLight

(13,359 posts)
3. I would think delivery services are REALLY cracking down these days...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020

That said, I would also think that restaurants (responsible ones) would mandate ANY symptomatic worker from chef to hostess to busboy to stay HOME

THAT said, if you feel like to "know" the restaurant it would probably be somewhat safer. I would just wipe off the outside of the packaging with lysol wipe?

hlthe2b

(102,208 posts)
6. Ready to eat cooked food would be fine unless someone sneezed into it.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:37 PM
Mar 2020

and then there is a theoretic possibility of infecting (ingestion studies have not been done), but there is precedence from other viruses, so don't count on gastric acids to kill it.

There has to be a trust in the restaurant you frequent, that they are doing the right things and training their people.

If in doubt, reheat it to at least 165 degrees. And be wary of uncooked foods (salads, for example)

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
10. I have thought the very same thing
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:39 PM
Mar 2020

It dramatically reduces the chances of exposure if it is delivered. Nothing is without risk and it feels like we're swimming in the virus right now when you read about it, but the odds are much in our favor this way. Plus, if you are carrying the virus yourself, you're not carrying it out to others.

Most delivery services are offering contact-free delivery.

I'm also motivated by wanting to help small businesses survive the slump.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
13. Right. A lot of restaurants operate on a very small margin as it is. A lot of them are going to have
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:42 PM
Mar 2020

trouble getting through this I would imagine.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
11. I fell lucky to be single and retired so I can go grocery shopping very early in the morning.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020

Looks like for now, my 24/7 supermarket will close from midnight to five for cleaning and stocking. I was there right at five today and there were eight people waiting. I'd say it was three times as busy as usual for that time of day. As long as they keep the store running, that should go back to being dead when I go. I figure my only close contact will be checking out. I need fresh fruit and veggies at least every three days.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
16. This entire situation is so gross, I've pretty much
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:51 PM
Mar 2020

lost my appetite. Definitely won't be eating anything that's prepared by others for the foreseeable future.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
17. Spray or wipe down packaging w Lysol/Disinfect. and maybe
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

reheat food in the Microwave. Although we don't know if this is effective it's worth a try.

Stay away from anything that isn't already baked, boiled or fried per another poster here.

Stay away from wrapped sandwiches, burritos; raw veggies & fruits.

tinrobot

(10,893 posts)
22. There's a good article in the Atlantic about food
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:56 PM
Mar 2020

Link here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-how-get-food-safely/608008/

Basically, cooked food from restaurants is probably OK.

Eating in a crowded restaurant probably not OK.

Jury is out on delivery, the delivery driver may cross paths with a lot of people and become a vector... or not.

Might be best to order takeout and pick it up yourself.

coti

(4,612 posts)
23. Yes. Beyond putting one's self in a plastic bubble, it may be impossible to completely insulate
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

from the virus.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
25. The harsh reality...
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

40-70% of us globally are expected to get the virus?

THE ISSUE...

Not enough medical to handle that or even half of half of half of that at once?

So.... if you wish to do due diligence, then yeah, the best option, pass.

You will be made to suffer your own cooking for a bit, but that is on you?

GOOD LUCK!











euphorb

(279 posts)
26. Every contact carries some probability of infection.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:12 PM
Mar 2020

But individual contacts, such as with a delivery person, has a much lower probability than frequenting crowded or more densely populated spaces. There's no 100% foolproof protection, but the point of social distancing is to lower the probability of infection, thereby slowing the spread of the virus and, hopefully, forestalling the time when the health system will become overwhelmed.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
27. The way I heard it explained was if the virus gets in your mouth and you swallow it, the acid in you
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:23 PM
Mar 2020

stomach kills it.

If the virus gets in your mouth while your are inhaling it will get to your lungs, where it will grow.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
29. Not necessarily safe. Here's the thing.....
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:27 PM
Mar 2020

Foods prepared in any restaurant can become contaminated with bacteria and viruses during or after preparation, either by cooks or those serving or packaging it for sale......IF any of those people are infected.

Therefore, our meal served in restaurants, picked up at drive-through or delivered to our homes can be contaminated.

The only way to be 100% safe with foods handled or prepared by other people is to only buy items that can be reheated to a temperature adequate to denature the virus.

I'm still searching for precise info on what that that temperature and "cooking" time needs to be. I suspect there may be little or no credible scientific studies that have been conducted specific to COVID-19, although the Chinese or perhaps European agencies may have done some studies. We shall see.

I'm being flooded with emails from restaurants for which I've subscribed to their mailing list with articles to reassure customers that they are taking all the recommended steps to protect us. That does not remove the possibility of an infected employee contaminating dozens if not hundreds of meals in a work shift. We know now that infected people are most contagious during the period before they begin showing symptoms.

Will report back if I find something definitive.......

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
30. I would probably be OK with
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:28 PM
Mar 2020

ordering a meal at Mexican restaurant, one where the food is served piping hot on a sizzling hot plate. Would bring my own water bottle, napkins, and eating utensils. Clean off the table surface, and ask to be seated at a reasonable distance from other customers.

procon

(15,805 posts)
31. Nothing is more romantic than cooking a meal
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

With someone you love. Order the ingredients you need to try a new recipe, or lay out a picnic in front of the fireplace, share a bottle of good wine with a selection of finger foods, or a cheese board with fresh bread warm from the oven.

We got hooked on canned fishies like sardines, smoked salmon, oysters and herring served with assorted crackers and icy cold beer.

Do something fun like a loaded Potato Bar, a fondue party, BBQ your favorite foods, breakfast in bed for dinner, make a decadent dessert for two.

Stay home and just enjoy your spouse, you'll be happier without the stress.

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