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janterry

(4,429 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 05:41 AM Mar 2020

Trump seeks EXCLUSIVE rights to vaccine in development in Germany

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/15/coronavirus-latest-updates-trump-tests-negative-as-spain-orders-nationwide-lockdown-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-global-economy

German newspaper Welt am Sonntag has reported that US president Donald Trump has sought exclusive rights to a vaccine for the coronavirus which is being developed by a German-based company, CureVac.

The report, which quoted unnamed sources, said Trump had offered large sums of money to German scientists working on the vaccine, and that the Germany government was working to prevent the US procuring it on this basis.

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Trump seeks EXCLUSIVE rights to vaccine in development in Germany (Original Post) janterry Mar 2020 OP
Large sums of TAXPAYER money, Scarsdale Mar 2020 #1
Or Russian money. wnylib Mar 2020 #12
Could this be seen by some as SOCIALISM? KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #14
K&R - damn fool is looking to profit from the vaccine. Hope Chancellor Merkel will put a stop to onetexan Mar 2020 #23
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahha malaise Mar 2020 #2
What the fuck is this? Aviation Pro Mar 2020 #3
Wow DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #4
Here's an article from a German source.. Princess Turandot Mar 2020 #5
Please pardon the following language. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #6
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #37
The evil grifting bastard. gademocrat7 Mar 2020 #7
This is "Dr Evil" type stuff htuttle Mar 2020 #8
Exclusive rights? WTF sense would that even make? Wouldn't it usually be manufactured everywhere brewens Mar 2020 #9
The "sense" it makes is his usual sense: self promotion JHB Mar 2020 #19
he would negotiate prices world wide if its all his.. he needs to be stopped.. samnsara Mar 2020 #28
$ure, but thi$ i$ trump*$ brain. Luz Mar 2020 #22
Pure evil. Money grubbing a$$hole. mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #11
By contrast, Jonas Salk, the founder of the Polio Vaccine: no_hypocrisy Mar 2020 #13
I remember when my grade school wnylib Mar 2020 #18
That was the Sabin vaccine PCIntern Mar 2020 #26
You're right. Thanks. wnylib Mar 2020 #31
What a great quote! Thanks Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #20
Angela likely will have something to say about this. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #15
He is not only an evil profiteer, wnylib Mar 2020 #16
Imagine what he will do if he is still wnylib Mar 2020 #17
WTH! 'Only' for the U.S. and screw the rest of the world? WePurrsevere Mar 2020 #21
Reading between the lines - two ways to read this Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #24
Yes, I thought both of those as well janterry Mar 2020 #25
I'd be very worried about a company that sells a vaccine to Merlot Mar 2020 #27
He follows the axiom of "never let a good crisis go to waste"............... nt mitch96 Mar 2020 #29
If that's true, it needs to be screaming from every teevee 2naSalit Mar 2020 #30
The evil of Donald Trump is limitless. dalton99a Mar 2020 #32
ANOTHER reason not to hire a (purported) successful businessman for President Mr. Ected Mar 2020 #33
He wants a cut! kentuck Mar 2020 #34
Count on it every time. It's revolting. nt crickets Mar 2020 #35
quid pro quo? perhaps? IcyPeas Mar 2020 #40
How would you feel... lame54 Mar 2020 #36
Trump is basically Dr. Smith in Lost in Space LessAspin Mar 2020 #38
What an evil, evil man. ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #39
Likely he wants money from the test kits, too, hence delay. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #41
I have no doubt he'll make certain that he janterry Mar 2020 #42
Who would put it past him aquamarina Mar 2020 #43

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
1. Large sums of TAXPAYER money,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 06:18 AM
Mar 2020

no doubt. The tRumps do not spend their own money. This should be exposed ASAP.

onetexan

(13,035 posts)
23. K&R - damn fool is looking to profit from the vaccine. Hope Chancellor Merkel will put a stop to
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:21 AM
Mar 2020

this corruption.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
5. Here's an article from a German source..
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 06:45 AM
Mar 2020

He supposedly wanted the company to only sell any vaccine they produce to the US. The Germans then countered offered. Meanwhile, the owners of the company are ordering Lamborghinis, and those $30,000 French handbags.

Okay. I made the last sentence up.

Whilst I'm not certain that this report is true, it would be very Trump-like to do something like this, so he could claim that he saved the country.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990

The governments of Germany and the United States are wrestling over the German-based company CureVac which is working on a vaccine for the novel coronavirus, reported German newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

The prominent German media outlet reported, citing unnamed sources, that US President Donald Trump was offering large sums of money to German scientists working on a vaccine. He wanted to secure exclusive rights to their work, the newspaper reported.

Trump was doing everything he could to secure a vaccine for the United States, "but only for the US," the newspaper quoted an anonymous German government source as saying.

The newspaper reported that the German government has tried to offer the company financial incentives to remain in Germany.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
6. Please pardon the following language.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:03 AM
Mar 2020

FUCK TRUMP ALL THE WAY TO HELL.
AND IT DAMNED WELL BETTER BE SOON.

He is evil incarnate.

We need to scream this loud and wide. Trump put everything off until he knew he could make a profit off of our sickness and our deaths.

I have never in my life wanted to see a person's obituary in the paper more than I want to see his. Even more than Cheney, and that's saying everything.

May the next 10 people who are infected shake his hands, cough in his face, sneeze all over him, and then walk away knowing they have done their patriotic duty.
And make sure they have high viral loads.

I was just getting ready to go to bed. Now I won't be able to sleep.

Maybe we all make homemade signs. All we need is a regular piece of paper and a Sharpie. Make this sign and put it in the window in the front of your house.

Trump delayed any and all help for the citizens of the United States. He waited until he could profit from the Coronavirus. He will make money off of our sickness and our deaths.

Or something to that effect.

Something is definitely going up in the front window of my house tomorrow morning. I've had it.

brewens

(13,563 posts)
9. Exclusive rights? WTF sense would that even make? Wouldn't it usually be manufactured everywhere
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:29 AM
Mar 2020

possible if they managed to come up with a vaccine? I could see offering them whatever it takes to get it done quickly with the stipulation that we get to make the stuff here, but we'd probably want to give away those rights to anyone else that could make it wouldn't we?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
19. The "sense" it makes is his usual sense: self promotion
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:10 AM
Mar 2020

Exclusive rights would put a vaccine entirely under his control, so at first he'd send it to the US only (aside from some boxes that "fell off a truck" and ended up in Russia) so he could look like America's Savior to his cult.

And then price-gouge everyone else.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
28. he would negotiate prices world wide if its all his.. he needs to be stopped..
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:50 AM
Mar 2020

..God-dess has already shown the world shes pissed.. if we let trump* do this to us she will be REALLY CRANKY!

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
10. Pure evil. Money grubbing a$$hole.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:30 AM
Mar 2020

Dip him in a vat of lethal pathogens and isolate him in a cell where he can perish alone, in pain, screaming until his last breath.

Better yet, commission Stephen King to write how he should live his final moments.

Pure evil. And I knew it. I knew if we followed the money you'd find him looking for a way to profit.

Scum sucking evil.

Response to janterry (Original post)

no_hypocrisy

(46,067 posts)
13. By contrast, Jonas Salk, the founder of the Polio Vaccine:
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:41 AM
Mar 2020

He never patented his discovery.



In the context of this modern insulin crisis, Salk seems like an early visionary — a scientist who wanted his invention to maximize human welfare, not profit. His famous quote on patenting (or lack thereof) only adds to his image. On April 12, 1955, Edward R. Murrow, a TV journalist, asked Salk who owned the polio vaccine patent.

"Well, the people, I would say," Salk responded. "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"


https://curiosity.com/topics/jonas-salk-didnt-patent-the-polio-vaccine-curiosity/

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
18. I remember when my grade school
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:09 AM
Mar 2020

was one of the local distribution points open to the general public to receive the vaccine in sugar cubes. People lined up with their kids. If I remember right, there were 3 successive doses taken at intervals for it to be effective.

That was when responsible leaders actually cared about public health.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. What a great quote! Thanks
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:14 AM
Mar 2020

"Well, the people, I would say," Salk responded. "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
15. Angela likely will have something to say about this.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:51 AM
Mar 2020

Like "screw you, Donald" along with your trade war..........

Here's an article from a German paper (DW):

Germany and US wrestle over coronavirus vaccine: report
US President Donald Trump is attempting to entice a German lab to develop a vaccine exclusively for the US, a German newspaper reported. Berlin health authorities are in intensive talks with the company.

Read it here: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990

(snips)

The governments of Germany and the United States are wrestling over the German-based company CureVac which is working on a vaccine for the novel coronavirus, reported German newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

The prominent German media outlet reported, citing unnamed sources, that US President Donald Trump was offering large sums of money to German scientists working on a vaccine. He wanted to secure exclusive rights to their work, the newspaper reported.

Trump was doing everything he could to secure a vaccine for the United States, "but only for the US," the newspaper quoted an anonymous German government source as saying.

The newspaper reported that the German government has tried to offer the company financial incentives to remain in Germany.

A German health ministry spokesman told Die Welt that the government was in "intensive" dialogue with CureVac. "The German government is very interested in having the development of vaccines and treatments against the novel coronavirus undertaken in Germany and Europe," the spokesman said.

CureVac declined to comment to Die Welt. The company is based in the southwestern German city of Tübingen and works with the Paul Ehrlich Institute, linked with the German health ministry. It also has sites in Frankfurt and the US city of Boston.

On Friday, CureVac co-founder and chief production officer Florian von der Mülbe told Reuters that research into several possible vaccines had begun and the two most promising would be chosen for clinical tests. The company hoped to have an experimental vaccine developed by June or July, and then to get approval for testing on people.

Our lovely capitalism hard at work at thinning the unwashed herds.......

KY...........

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
16. He is not only an evil profiteer,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:55 AM
Mar 2020

but with this kind of tactic, risks a delay in the US receiving a vaccine while he squabbles over the conditions in which we obtain it.

Deport the SOB to northern Italy.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
17. Imagine what he will do if he is still
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:58 AM
Mar 2020

in office when a vaccine is available in the US. Selective rationing of who gets it and when.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
21. WTH! 'Only' for the U.S. and screw the rest of the world?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:19 AM
Mar 2020

Using OUR money? Like hell!

Damn it! If nothing else this virus should teach us all how incredibly connected we all are and how what we do, or don't do, can be felt by others around the world in both positive and negative ways. A life saving vaccine MUST belong to the world not just to one country and especially not if that country has a greedy self serving bigoted nut like Trump in control.

So when he gets a limited amount of vaccines and needs to prioritize who gets it will he be handing them out to his rich and Republican buddies and cult members first? He seems to think he's only 'their' president and the rest of us be damned.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Reading between the lines - two ways to read this
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:23 AM
Mar 2020

To get the promise of a vaccine for the US only to make him look better to win in November and that he alone made US superior to every other country.

Or he wants to personally capitalize on royalties. Surely this is against international emoluments clause?

What a great humanitarian. Either will surely get him that Nobel peace prize!

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
25. Yes, I thought both of those as well
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:28 AM
Mar 2020

which is really disappointing. I hear all of the shared medical news from China and feel like the medical professionals there really want to save lives in our country - and around the world.

I'm heartened.

And then Dumbo speaks or I learn something else that he's got his tiny fingers in.....and I could just cry. I'm so ashamed of our president and our country that we allowed this to happen.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
27. I'd be very worried about a company that sells a vaccine to
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:43 AM
Mar 2020

the highest bidder. If that is their baseline, they might also be tempted to skip testing and other steps to get it to their "market" sooner.

2naSalit

(86,509 posts)
30. If that's true, it needs to be screaming from every teevee
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:18 AM
Mar 2020

on the planet. And I'm good with turning the entire admin over to the ICC in The Hague.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
33. ANOTHER reason not to hire a (purported) successful businessman for President
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:23 AM
Mar 2020

Some things cannot be boiled down to dollars and cents. That is the only equation the MAGATS think applies to American politics, and it is a sick, sick point of view born of thousands of hours of corporate chatter via Rush, Sean & the good fascists at FOX.

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
40. quid pro quo? perhaps?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

you give us vaccine -- we give you boatloads of money.

This is the art of the deal. money money money

lame54

(35,281 posts)
36. How would you feel...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

If you went to the doctors office to get inoculated and he sticks a syringe in a vial that reads TRUMP VACCINE - would you let him stick you?

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
42. I have no doubt he'll make certain that he
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:40 PM
Mar 2020

or his family has plenty of stock in that company.

It's horrible.

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
43. Who would put it past him
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

I would bet my dwindling retirement that he intended to spring this as an October Surprise. I put nothing past this evil sack of orange pus.

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